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One thing's changed for sure. I tried making UK accounts but the VCCs that worked for me a couple of days ago are not working for me anymore (you know what I mean). So I'm stuck at verification... Again.
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I don't think it has anything to do with linking as far as personal info goes they cant see anything.But stealthers do use discreet methods your average signup doesnt use.If amazon picks off the discreet methods we use to create stealth accounts they can spot us at the door.If we figure out what they know or are now using to spot us,we can work around it.This is of course under the assumption its a issue thats going to effect everyone,and not just a mistake im personally making
That doesnt make sense. You are being overly paranoid due to something that YOU are having an issue with. Yes, gift cards are an issue but you are now saying MOST PEOPLE MAKING STEALTH ACCOUNTS will be stopped at the door.
There is NOTHING different we do creating a stealth amazon account except adjusting our name slightly, a different address and whatever credit card that works. NOTHING DIFFERENT than the next average joe making an account.
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How much money are you loading on the VCC? Ive been hearing 10 dollars and under wont work
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I usually have £10 at least on the VCC before adding it to Amazon
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Just make a new account .
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I usually have £10 at least on the VCC before adding it to Amazon
verified one of my other accounts 2 days ago just by putting 2quid on it. they just pre approved 1quid from it.
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You only need about a fiver for verification and it also covers a few disbursements when charging the card as well.
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That doesnt make sense. You are being overly paranoid due to something that YOU are having an issue with. Yes, gift cards are an issue but you are now saying MOST PEOPLE MAKING STEALTH ACCOUNTS will be stopped at the door.
There is NOTHING different we do creating a stealth amazon account except adjusting our name slightly, a different address and whatever credit card that works. NOTHING DIFFERENT than the next average joe making an account.
Your absolutely wrong.There are a few things that stand out from a stealth account that your average New sign up on amazon doesn't do.Lets say for example giftcards. Your typical new sign up didnt use giftcards to create an account.Giftcards and prepaids were a big signature of someone trying to stealth.So who do you think amazon was trying to hurt when they blocked most of them?Another example ,that would crush stealth if they really wanted to are vps/VPN companies.Despite what you guys think ip's from anywhere can be easily traced to the company source of where they are coming from.I ran a test the other day on some of the more popular VPN companies used by many on this forum.I was able to trace the ip's in 15 minutes to multiple sources of larger hosting /server companies.Because thats what most VPN companies do they buy from multiple sources of larger well known hosting / server companies and just rebrand the ip's as their own.Your typical new signup on amazon doesnt use server companies ,they usually decide to put their account on a server later down the line when they learn more about amazon.If i could trace the sources of the popular vpns in 15 im sure amazon could do it in 5 minutes.Not saying that they will,but it is something in their power.
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Okay, I made 6 UK + US (total 12) Amazon accounts recently. Just one has been suspended (US And UK counterparts). Also, I've established that US and UK accounts share info now. The US account was suspended first stating the counterfeit policy when there was just one item (genuine, I don't sell phakes) listed on the account with 0 qty - item was inactive. Soon after, the UK counterpart was suspended stating that the account was linked to a suspended account. The only reason I can think of for the US account getting suspended is that I added 5 vccs on file before one got accepted! This was also just a "test" account... Hope this info helps...
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Okay, I made 6 UK + US (total 12) Amazon accounts recently. Just one has been suspended (US And UK counterparts). Also, I've established that US and UK accounts share info now. The US account was suspended first stating the counterfeit policy when there was just one item (genuine, I don't sell phakes) listed on the account with 0 qty - item was inactive. Soon after, the UK counterpart was suspended stating that the account was linked to a suspended account. The only reason I can think of for the US account getting suspended is that I added 5 vccs on file before one got accepted! This was also just a "test" account... Hope this info helps...
You must open you secrets on opening 6 UK accounts and the ID's you used and getting them all verified. Very good...

US and UK don't share info, if they did many members here would be suspended as would I. There was beta software running between Us and Fr but seems to have halted.
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The message I got from Amazon UK about an hour after Amazon US was suspended was that my account was linked to another account that was closed by Amazon. There is 0% of linkage to any other account since all accounts are opened on VMware with new IPs. So my conclusion is that US and UK now share info... I'll see if that happens to any other of my accounts... If it does, then I'll be very sure that they share info now.
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frkswift, please don't take this the wrong way but I think you need to look at your methods on how you set your accounts up. You seem to think amazon has new techniques with linking, they don't. I have been running a US account with the same info as a suspended UK account for a number of years, same bank account, credit card, address. This is one of my small accounts and it sits there as an experiment.
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Hey, I'm always open to criticism. That's what makes me think

What makes me think that these US and UK accounts are linked is that they were both created within the last 48 hours. My older US + UK accounts are fine. Two of them have suspended UK counterparts but the US accounts are fine and have been fine for a long time. No link whatsoever. I'm just wondering if this is something just for the new accounts. Also, I've never had an Amazon account linked and suspended before, this is a first for me.
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Your absolutely wrong.There are a few things that stand out from a stealth account that your average New sign up on amazon doesn't do.Lets say for example giftcards. Your typical new sign up didnt use giftcards to create an account.Giftcards and prepaids were a big signature of someone trying to stealth.So who do you think amazon was trying to hurt when they blocked most of them?Another example ,that would crush stealth if they really wanted to are vps/VPN companies.Despite what you guys think ip's from anywhere can be easily traced to the company source of where they are coming from.I ran a test the other day on some of the more popular vpn companies used by many on this forum.I was able to trace the ip's in 15 minutes to multiple sources of larger hosting /server companies.Because thats what most vpn companies do they buy from multiple sources of larger well known hosting / server companies and just rebrand the ip's as their own.Your typical new signup on amazon doesnt use server companies ,they usually decide to put their account on a server later down the line when they learn more about amazon.If i could trace the sources of the popular vpns in 15 im sure amazon could do it in 5 minutes.Not saying that they will,but it is something in their power.

Like I said. You just mentioned 3 NEWB rookie mistakes right off the bat.
Amazon will block, delete almost all VPN IPs. They have ALL been used up years ago. Even making a buyer account on amazon using a VPN will get deleted.
I knew right off the bat the second I saw NO EMAIL and complete deletion you used a bad credit card or VPN.
2nd. I have NEVER used a gift card to start an amazon account.
3rd. I dont know the 3rd but Im sure youre screwing up somewhere else also.

Despite what we think about VPNs? I dont see anyone here except you using a VPN
Enough of this thread. Im annoyed
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The message I got from Amazon UK about an hour after Amazon US was suspended was that my account was linked to another account that was closed by Amazon. There is 0% of linkage to any other account since all accounts are opened on VMware with new IPs. So my conclusion is that US and UK now share info... I'll see if that happens to any other of my accounts... If it does, then I'll be very sure that they share info now.

What is your definition of NEW IPs? VPNs? They may be new to you but trust me, they are all used up
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I personally wouldn't use a VPN for an Amazon account either, red flag for starters especially using one to open the account.
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Mailiquest, come on mate, don't go assuming stuff...
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Mailiquest, come on mate, don't go assuming stuff...
Im not assuming. I was directly quoting you.

If that is how you are making accounts, you are destined to failure 9 out of 10 times. That is no assumption.
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Maliquest your full of it and you make a lot of assumptions.There are a lot of people on this site using vps and vpns,I would know because half the people on this forum are clients of my own company.24vc for example is a vpn source which works well right now and offers dedicated never used ip's and recommended by aspkin himself.Your assuming im talking about cheap sites like hma which "duh" is a rookie mistake.But plenty of people still use vps and vpn services offering Dedicated IP's,and if their not using that they are using their own ip addresses from their local isp.But local isp doesnt always guarentee a Fresh IP.A lot of people use up their pool of ip addresses with out even knowing depending on how long their previous account was running for.If your not using the above 3 options then your isp must offer a business package which allows your to purchase a boatload of Dedicated IP addresses.Not every isp has that service,att does I know.If your not using that your using a hotspot or still old school with dialup,but those options dont give you full control of the ip addresses used everytime you want to log in.
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Did I mention VPN? No. So yes, you are assuming.
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One of my acc was suspended however able to managed withdraw after suspension.happy
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When you created these new accounts are you listing anything that was on another account? My client has 2 stealth that sell the same as his regular account (product wise), and they are all up and running fine. Both even have 94% feedback which is low.
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