Uk vcc?

rfloubo · #45 01-19-2016

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Originally Posted by Jigsaw

There is no need to change address as I just made a new Amazon UK seller account with a bank debit card without needing to change anything.

It's this bit that I don't understand. How do you make more than one account with the same address? Or if your address is already flagged for a banned account how can you still use any of your cards?

Taking The Micky · #46 01-19-2016

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Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

I understand what your suggesting doing...

The change of address still gets reported to the credit agencies by the bank.

Pretty cut and dry really

James, I get my monthly credit report from moneysavirngexpert.com (Experian report). This will show some bank accounts details that have changed address but will not show the changed address and others are not shown. There is nothing in the report that shows a stealth address. AMEN

Jigsaw · #47 01-19-2016

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Originally Posted by rfloubo

It's this bit that I don't understand. How do you make more than one account with the same address? Or if your address is already flagged for a banned account how can you still use any of your cards?

It meant you do not need to change your address with the bank that provides the debit card and can just use complete stealth information on Amazon Seller UK.

Taking The Micky · #48 01-19-2016

The card has to pass an AVS check

Jigsaw · #49 01-19-2016

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Originally Posted by Taking The Micky

The card has to pass an AVS check

Amazon UK never does AVS check from my experience, I know amazon.com (USA site) certainly do. I used a bank visa debit card to create an account awhile ago today and it went through fine just like the other bank cards I used in the past.

Taking The Micky · #50 01-19-2016

Amazon do AVS checks. Plenty on the forum about this. Especially before each disbursement, if there is a mismatch no cash.

Jigsaw · #51 01-20-2016

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Originally Posted by Taking The Micky

Amazon do AVS checks. Plenty on the forum about this. Especially before each disbursement, if there is a mismatch no cash.

The only time amazon UK do AVS is when an account specialist manually checks an account, the only time I seen that happen is if you try and purchase something really expensive and they block the account pending verification where you have to send them documents.

I have several bank debit cards on my amazon accounts with full stealth info working all fine and all been through reviews fine. All disbursements go through fine and had these accounts ranging from a couple of months and a few years.

What amazon country site you using?

rfloubo · #52 01-20-2016

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Originally Posted by Jigsaw

Amazon UK never does AVS check from my experience

So you're saying that you entered a different post code and house number into Amazon from the one recorded by the bank and you were able to register and disburse ok?

ETA: Ooops. 2 minutes late. If that is true I've just messed up my credit report in vain. Still, what you say goes against a lot of UK experience around here. Would be nice to see some vindication.

Jigsaw · #53 01-20-2016

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Originally Posted by rfloubo

So you're saying that you entered a different post code and house number into Amazon from the one recorded by the bank and you were able to register and disburse ok?

ETA: Ooops. 2 minutes late. If that is true I've just messed up my credit report in vain. Still, what you say goes against a lot of UK experience around here. Would be nice to see some vindication.

Yes that is correct. Different post code and house number than the one on file with the bank.

Been dealing with Amazon Stealth for a few years now.

Taking The Micky · #54 01-20-2016

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Originally Posted by Jigsaw

The only time amazon UK do AVS is when an account specialist manually checks an account, the only time I seen that happen is if you try and purchase something really expensive and they block the account pending verification where you have to send them documents.

I have several bank debit cards on my amazon accounts with full stealth info working all fine and all been through reviews fine. All disbursements go through fine and had these accounts ranging from a couple of months and a few years.

What amazon country site you using?

Well you must be the exception on AVS, congratulations.

I sell UK,DE,Fr,Sp,It,Ca,Us,Mex,Jp

JamesNorth101 · #55 01-20-2016

Amazon in the UK does need to pass the AVS checks Micky is right on this one

If the Amazon registered door number and post code does not match the card registered door number it would (or at least should) always fail

rfloubo · #56 01-20-2016

Well, I have no reason to disbelieve Jigsaw and I think it would be more positive to try and find out if it his/her experience is replicable. After all, amazon is not known for procedural egalitarianism.

So Jigsaw, can you give more details about the cards you used, did you do anything different from what you read around here when dealing with your account? Do you use mainstream banks and normal current or savings accounts? Is your address in Islington or Belgravia?

Jigsaw · #57 01-20-2016

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Originally Posted by rfloubo

Well, I have no reason to disbelieve Jigsaw and I think it would be more positive to try and find out if it his/her experience is replicable. After all, amazon is not known for procedural egalitarianism.

So Jigsaw, can you give more details about the cards you used, did you do anything different from what you read around here when dealing with your account? Do you use mainstream banks and normal current or savings accounts? Is your address in Islington or Belgravia?

I use visa debit cards issued with basic accounts from main banks like Natwest, RBS and Santander. And no, my address is in UK and the same UK address registered with the banks.

The Amazon Stealth account name and address details are completely different to what is registered with the banks.

JamesNorth101 · #58 01-20-2016

That is very interesting information there Jogsaw

It will be interesting to see if other people find the results

vetus · #59 01-20-2016

Yes but lets not forget that not all Amazon UK accounts get charged £1 before a disbursement happens. Which means your account would work fine.

When adding a card upon setup to an Amazon UK account you can add ANY card, it can be registered to any address and it will add fine. The problem becomes IF Amazon decide that to charge your card before disbursement as then that is when it would fail. IF they do not charge the card then you will be fine but the majority do get a £1 charge against them nowadays.

Jigsaw · #60 01-20-2016

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Originally Posted by vetus

Yes but lets not forget that not all Amazon UK accounts get charged £1 before a disbursement happens. Which means your account would work fine.

When adding a card upon setup to an Amazon UK account you can add ANY card, it can be registered to any address and it will add fine. The problem becomes IF Amazon decide that to charge your card before disbursement as then that is when it would fail. IF they do not charge the card then you will be fine but the majority do get a £1 charge against them nowadays.

I know there were times when amazon didnt do a £1 charge before disbursement but all the visa debit cards I used have had the £1 charge and went through ok. I have had £1 deducted on a card that went through last night when I registered a new account, and the last payment I received on another account the other week had a £1 charge before disbursement.

rich6666 · #61 01-20-2016

I have just added a real debit card as Jogsaw said to an Amazon Stealth account,

I now have access to the account. I can finally dispatch orders and answer messages.

JamesNorth101 · #62 01-20-2016

Its not adding the card that is the issue. Its the charge against the card just before dispersements that can cause problems

rich6666 · #63 01-20-2016

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Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

Its not adding the card that is the issue. Its the charge against the card just before dispersements that can cause problems

I don't understand. Why did a neteller vcc and cashplus card fail? Both accounts was debited £1 but a real debit card has given me my amazon account access?

JamesNorth101 · #64 01-20-2016

That would be because they can see that they are a prepaid cards (the BIN gives that away)

It will be pretty interesting to see if you do get disbursements. Fingers crossed you do!

rich6666 · #65 01-20-2016

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Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

That would be because they can see that they are a prepaid cards (the BIN gives that away)

It will be pretty interesting to see if you do get disbursements. Fingers crossed you do!

I will update if or when i get a disbursement.

Just being able to dispatch orders and answer messages was a great relief. Amazon should cancel listings and orders at the same time the cc fails or within a day or two, in my opinion.

Using friends and families names and addresses is a big no,no with regards to ebay, paypal and stealth in general.

what is the pitfalls for using friends and families long card number and address to pass the amazon avs?

JamesNorth101 · #66 01-20-2016

Friends and family would not ever be able to use Amazon. Given how many people use Amazon these days, or may want to use Amazon at some point means you could run into issues

Best method is outlined here

It keeps everyone happy and means you dont have to fraudulently change addresses with banks or mess around with things that can come back to seriously hurt you in the future.