how to ship to scammer in Pakistan safely?

jackdanielsbtch · #1 02-10-2016

buyer bought expensive $800 item. paypal payment says confirmed address to Pakistan and seller protection eligible.

I can tell his account is hacked. The account is from 1997 (usually all old accounts are from California) and has 2,000+ feedback.

I called paypal and they couldn't tell me much since it's someone else's account but they pretty much confirmed that it was hacked. Nonetheless, they tell me if i want to ship it out I can since I'm covered through seller protection.

I want to ship out because I got a really good sale price. But, how do I do it safely? I am noticing EMS Express Mail to non-big countries (UK, France, etc.) just show delivered not signed. Do I need to mail DHL, Fedex or UPS? And what method?
I saw post earlier about a guy mailing to middle east and buyer didn't pay customs fees and that country has a rule that they don't mail items back to sender. I never heard of such rules.
Do you see any problems here?

my only concern is I plan on getting $800 insurance so buyer will have heavy customs fees $100-$200. and he won't pick up package, but does paypal refund buyer since i'll get item back or do i keep money as it's buyer fault for not paying customs fees.

rsot · #2 02-10-2016

Why would you even consider shipping to a hacked account? I don't follow - if the account is sketch, block, cancel, and move on

muzzie · #3 02-10-2016

cancel sale, block the buyer

empirestate · #4 02-10-2016

You should block countries you don't want to sell to so you can avoid these types of buyers.

rsot · #5 02-10-2016

pothos · #6 02-10-2016

If the buyer doesn't pay the customs tax, you might not get your package back as no one is paying the return shipping. It happens in UPS international packages often.

Haidukken · #7 02-10-2016

My man, don't be greedy- Seems like you are doing this ONLY because you actually made a sale and are making profit from it. You know you will have problems with this transaction if you do it, so why even bother?

You either made so much from the sale that you can't say NO to it, which means that you are either greedy or its because you have sold overpriced item and you know this item will not sell again for similar price.

Desperados, greed and future problems. Just avoid all of this!

slokor · #8 02-10-2016

Agree with everyone else.
Sounds like youre actively looking for trouble with this situation.
You KNOW something bad is about to happen and yet your pursuing it.
Refund, cancel and move on.

vogeltron · #9 02-10-2016

Just like everyone else says. Why would you even consider risking it? There are some countries you simply don't bother with.

sdot10 · #10 02-10-2016

Agree with everyone else. If it was a US address I would have a different answer but international is just too risky

jackdanielsbtch · #11 02-10-2016

Yes, the sale price of $800 was very good. It might take months for the item to sell again at that price (if it even does), realistically if I put it in 7 day auction I'm expecting $300. Was thinking $500-$600 range for best offers but again it'd take months for the right buyer.

If it wasn't seller protection eligible I would never ship it. But it is seller protection eligible. Maybe I am being greedy. Sure, it's risky for PayPal if it doesn't work (which I don't think it will), but it's PayPal's money not mines, and quite honestly F*** Paypal

I've had times where I shipped Russia and Mexico and it was disputed but seller protection eligible and it was literally a 10 second phone call and providing them tracking and money is back in my account.

If I am missing something here, fill me in....
I plan on getting insurance so if it's lost I'll be covered.
I plan on shipping method that will require signature and state the exact address it was delivered to. So I am cover for unauthorized and item not received.
I just need to make sure I get item back if customs fees not paid.
And if buyer states not as described, he has to mail back exact item in same condition or he won't get refund.

So what can be the problem? Am I missing anything here?

Dmshark25 · #12 02-10-2016

Didnt you say that paypal told you the account was hacked??? If it was hacked than arent you concerned that you will lose the item and the money?

Do you not have a 21 day hold on your account and already received the funds instantly

dicsolovag · #13 02-10-2016

Just ship it because that is what YOU want to do.
Let us know what happens!

LoopHole · #14 02-10-2016

How to ship to Pakistan Safely requires only 1 step.

1. You don't.

Dmshark25 · #15 02-10-2016

OP must of received an instant payment of $800 and has already cashed out and closed up shop. I cant see them taken a risk while funds are in a 21 day hold, if that were the case than theres no way they would be thinking of shipping anything in this horrible situation

rsot · #16 02-10-2016

I say ship to Dmshark25 - he'll take care of what needs to be done

easy.bake.oven · #17 02-11-2016

OP - are you thick?

Sorry for the rudeness but your post is a f'ing joke mate....... are you 4 real or just taking da micky?

Wizen up man

What does your common sense tell you?

Mine tells me you are on a scam yourself, good luck with it X - hope u get knocked

GreenBean · #18 02-11-2016

Do what you want.

Dont ask us to hold your hand.

Cake and eat it scenario comes to mind.

khanxyz0z · #19 02-11-2016

Being from pakistan, im going have to say dont ship there, forget the buyer even receiving the item. The customs over there usually just keep the items(unless buyer knows them)
Trust me its a free for all over there, like in the u.s if you work for a company you have a boss or someone higher than you to check upon your work, over there its not like that at all.

I still rember at the airport the security guards openly asking for a bribe, to let me go through baggage checking.

So even if you do ship, it might not get delivered which will be a problem
When you provide paypal with tracking.

Second of all there is no paypal in pakistan.(obvious reasons)

The country is great and all in its own way, but its a free for all over there.
This is advice to any other members as well that might want to ship there.

Dufus · #20 02-11-2016

I have sent few (cheap) items to PK with no issues.
Maybe i was lucky.

Haidukken · #21 02-11-2016

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean

Do what you want.

Dont ask us to hold your hand.

Cake and eat it scenario comes to mind.

If I'd ask you nicely, would you hold my hand? I'll bake you a cake and we can eat it together? As we ride our little ponies into sunset? No? Please?

BigCJ · #22 02-11-2016

So, OP,you seem to only hear what you want to hear at this point.

You are still asking the same question even though everyone is telling you what will most likely happen.

Hell, even someone FROM the country told you not ship there.

Id like to think that your account has built up some credibility if you are able to accept the $800 without issue?
Is the account worth the 99% scam rate sale to do it all over again?