Paypal - Flash Objects - tracking of PayPal via flash objects - Page 2

Exeneva · 06-13-2008, 05:42 PM

So is it possible to not create new accounts but clear your flash cookies using the flash manager every time you change accounts/login?

Marine · 06-13-2008, 06:14 PM

I could set up a guide on how to run a virtual PC on your current pc, therefor not linking any cookies, info etc at all. It's like using a different computer.

Enough requests and i will.

zymo · 06-13-2008, 06:34 PM

Consider this a request.

MasterChief · 06-13-2008, 07:19 PM

This is Request 2.

The_Cynic · 06-13-2008, 08:11 PM

Each user acct on a computer will have separate folders for cookies, this includes the java and flash cookies.

----If you are on a computer as user A and then you shut down the computer and log on as user B, none of the cookies from user A have followed, nor can any cookies from another user communicate.

HOWEVER, they can track your IP and if you have downloaded a program with active x controls (Turbolister) they can identify the different users.

Marine · 06-13-2008, 08:15 PM

That way would work.

My way would be for people who are paranoid and want to be 100% sure.

**aspkin** · 06-13-2008, 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebayhateluv

HI: I dont know what theyre called--but some banks use something besides a normal cookie to see if youre using the same pc--
i.e. Bank of America--uses a Site cookie/image---then when you log in on a diff pc-or after you use cookie cleaner--they know.
>>also--on Navy Federal credit union--when u log in to ck your acct bal/status on your credit app--it knows and asks you if you want to add this pc--if its different than last time, it automatically asks you a secret question youve set up to verify you...

>>MAYBE all these financial sites are going to this??

They're using flash cookies. Bank of American I know does this.

Killed by Ebay · 06-13-2008, 10:36 PM

^^^^ I am paranoid

terryp · 06-14-2008, 01:52 AM

I startd a post here almost 1 month ago warning that I had recieved a Flash Cookie from PP UK

GreenBean · 06-14-2008, 01:54 AM

I remember. I thought you were.....RIGHT as it happens now. OOPS!

btw, Sorry

The_Cynic · 06-14-2008, 11:59 PM

I just did a little experiment on my bank account. On one user account on my computer I usually access my wamu, each time I go to the site it recognizes me and I just need to insert my password, even after cleaning my cookies. So after visiting the site I logged off and then logged on again as a different user on my computer.

Voila! it did NOT recognize me

Modee · 07-05-2008, 04:48 PM

According to Objection, the PayPal flash objects are:

#www.paypal.com - settings.sol
sys - settings.sol
www.paypal.com - paypalLSO.sol

However the middle one sys may be nothing to worry about - that is merely settings for Macromedia Flash.

imjustme · 07-05-2008, 05:21 PM

I got them here now too. Funny thing is when I first got it, my Firefox browser crashed for performing an illegal operation. I guess they were trying to get more access than they're allowed.

Modee · 07-05-2008, 05:28 PM

I still have yet to see examples of where PayPal bothers to link anyone unless he owes PayPal money (left an account in the red, and split the scene). If you do that, they bring out the big guns to shut you and anyone they think might be remotely connected to you, down.

greg2414 · 07-05-2008, 06:02 PM

Their not to bad after all then

Modee · 07-05-2008, 06:33 PM

On the other hand, as long as you use PayPal with EBAY, you are under double scrutiny. Put it this way: since I stopped using PP with EBAY, a year ago, I haven't had an account suspended yet.

Ballsack · 07-07-2008, 02:39 AM

No flash cookies for me

06-13-2008, 06:34 PM	#23 (permalink)
zymo Subscribed Member iTrader: (0) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Northern California Posts: 128 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Activity: 12% Longevity: 34%	Consider this a request. __________________ Playing the eBay game for 10 years now.

06-13-2008, 08:15 PM	#26 (permalink)
Marine eBay Newbie iTrader: (0) Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 17 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 32%	That way would work. My way would be for people who are paranoid and want to be 100% sure. Last edited by Modee; 07-08-2008 at 03:14 PM.

06-14-2008, 01:52 AM	#29 (permalink)
terryp eBay Newbie iTrader: (0) Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 21 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 1% Longevity: 36%	Pp Flash I startd a post here almost 1 month ago warning that I had recieved a Flash Cookie from PP UK

06-14-2008, 01:54 AM	#30 (permalink)
GreenBean eBay Authority iTrader: (0) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: HADES Posts: 1,837 Thanks: 3 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts Activity: 72% Longevity: 66%	I remember. I thought you were.....RIGHT as it happens now. OOPS! btw, Sorry __________________ Rien De Crainte

07-05-2008, 04:48 PM	#32 (permalink)
Modee Tech Support Guru iTrader: (63) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 3,813 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts Activity: 91% Longevity: 99%	According to Objection, the PayPal flash objects are: #www.paypal.com - settings.sol sys - settings.sol www.paypal.com - paypalLSO.sol However the middle one sys may be nothing to worry about - that is merely settings for Macromedia Flash. __________________ .. . Please read the following threads before you use this forum or create a new thread: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-su...ease-read.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...ing-posts.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...addressed.html Please read below before you PM me with a question: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...h-support.html I do offer one-on-one tech support! to get you back on EBAY quickly. Last edited by Modee; 07-05-2008 at 04:50 PM.

06-13-2008, 05:42 PM	#21 (permalink)
Exeneva Subscribed Member iTrader: (1) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 233 My Mood: Thanks: 4 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Activity: 46% Longevity: 32%	So is it possible to not create new accounts but clear your flash cookies using the flash manager every time you change accounts/login?

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06-13-2008, 06:14 PM	#22 (permalink)
Marine eBay Newbie iTrader: (0) Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 17 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 32%	I could set up a guide on how to run a virtual PC on your current pc, therefor not linking any cookies, info etc at all. It's like using a different computer. Enough requests and i will.

06-13-2008, 07:19 PM	#24 (permalink)
MasterChief Subscribed Member iTrader: (0) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 117 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Activity: 0% Longevity: 44%	This is Request 2.

06-13-2008, 08:11 PM	#25 (permalink)
The_Cynic eBay Buff iTrader: (0) Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 182 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Activity: 17% Longevity: 26%	Each user acct on a computer will have separate folders for cookies, this includes the java and flash cookies. ----If you are on a computer as user A and then you shut down the computer and log on as user B, none of the cookies from user A have followed, nor can any cookies from another user communicate. HOWEVER, they can track your IP and if you have downloaded a program with active x controls (Turbolister) they can identify the different users.

06-13-2008, 10:36 PM	#28 (permalink)
Killed by Ebay eBay Professional iTrader: (0) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: USA Posts: 234 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 0% Longevity: 60%	^^^^ I am paranoid

06-14-2008, 11:59 PM	#31 (permalink)
The_Cynic eBay Buff iTrader: (0) Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 182 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Activity: 17% Longevity: 26%	I just did a little experiment on my bank account. On one user account on my computer I usually access my wamu, each time I go to the site it recognizes me and I just need to insert my password, even after cleaning my cookies. So after visiting the site I logged off and then logged on again as a different user on my computer. Voila! it did NOT recognize me

07-05-2008, 05:21 PM	#33 (permalink)
imjustme eBay Authority iTrader: (0) Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sushi Heaven Posts: 1,621 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 25% Longevity: 70%	I got them here now too. Funny thing is when I first got it, my Firefox browser crashed for performing an illegal operation. I guess they were trying to get more access than they're allowed. __________________ Recommended eBay Tools: [DSRWatch] - [Auctiva] - [eBay Fees Calculator] I'm not affiliated with any of them, but I use them all regularely. "One voice can change a room. And if it can change a room, it can change a city. And if it can change a city, it can change a state. And if it can change a state, it can change a nation! And if it can change a nation, it can change the world! Your voice can change the world!" --Barack Obama (Watch the Video.) Oh yeah, and I ♥ PayPal.

07-05-2008, 05:28 PM	#34 (permalink)
Modee Tech Support Guru iTrader: (63) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 3,813 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts Activity: 91% Longevity: 99%	I still have yet to see examples of where PayPal bothers to link anyone unless he owes PayPal money (left an account in the red, and split the scene). If you do that, they bring out the big guns to shut you and anyone they think might be remotely connected to you, down. __________________ .. . Please read the following threads before you use this forum or create a new thread: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-su...ease-read.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...ing-posts.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...addressed.html Please read below before you PM me with a question: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...h-support.html I do offer one-on-one tech support! to get you back on EBAY quickly.

07-05-2008, 06:02 PM	#35 (permalink)
greg2414 eBay Mastery iTrader: (1) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 528 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 1% Longevity: 23%	Their not to bad after all then

07-05-2008, 06:33 PM	#36 (permalink)
Modee Tech Support Guru iTrader: (63) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 3,813 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts Activity: 91% Longevity: 99%	On the other hand, as long as you use PayPal with EBAY, you are under double scrutiny. Put it this way: since I stopped using PP with EBAY, a year ago, I haven't had an account suspended yet. __________________ .. . Please read the following threads before you use this forum or create a new thread: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-su...ease-read.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...ing-posts.html http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...addressed.html Please read below before you PM me with a question: http://www.aspkin.com/forums/ebay-di...h-support.html I do offer one-on-one tech support! to get you back on EBAY quickly.

07-07-2008, 02:39 AM	#37 (permalink)
Ballsack eBay Mastery iTrader: (0) Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 666 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Activity: 9% Longevity: 83%	No flash cookies for me

07-07-2008, 02:06 PM	#38 (permalink)
Modee Tech Support Guru iTrader: (63) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: United States Posts: 3,813