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if you did you would still be below standard on this account.
yes not sure there is anything i can do. i ring ebay once every few month anyway so i might give them a ring to see if there is anything i can do about it maybe even appeal a couple of the cases to get me back below as i have only just gone above the 0.30%
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Figure out exactly when your bad ratings will drop off, and how many items you need to sell etc. It can be figured out if you know how. From your opening post it doesnt sound great though.

It also sounds like your account is semi real, which is probably a good thing considering you borrowed a large loan. Im not entirely sure of the legalities but i would never take a loan under any name but your own.
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why would i go and get a bank loan to pay them off? not forgetting i have 18k worth of stock from the loan i can sell on another account. my main concern is if i can rescue this account as it would save me alot of time and messing listing it all on a new account. if not i will not lose any sleep over this they can come looking for me and by the time they find me hopefully i have made the money back.
SERIOUSLY????????

That ABSOLUTELY is not and should not be your biggest concern.

Your biggest concern should be avoiding prison.
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Just out of interest is a condition of these loans that you have to buy the stock through paypal?
if i remember correctly it does give you an option to choose why you want the loan and i chose stock investment then it give me the option to withdraw money or pay for stock through paypal

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Probably a good idea to get another account up and running, sell on two accounts
yeh good advice will defo do that i have a few accounts i can start on its just like starting all over again but i have been here before good thing is i have all stock ready to list

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Figure out exactly when your bad ratings will drop off, and how many items you need to sell etc. It can be figured out if you know how. From your opening post it doesnt sound great though.

It also sounds like your account is semi real, which is probably a good thing considering you borrowed a large loan. Im not entirely sure of the legalities but i would never take a loan under any name but your own.
thanks for advice yeh i am not sure weather next evaluation will run from the 1st may to the end of july or 20th may - 20th august?

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SERIOUSLY????????

That ABSOLUTELY is not and should not be your biggest concern.

Your biggest concern should be avoiding prison.
no my main concern right now is getting back selling the stock i have to pay the loan off. sitting there feeling sorry for myself worrying about what will happen to me if i can not pay it will do me no good. im confident i can sell the stock and pay the money back. plus the agreement was that i only pay the loan off when i sell stock. if i only sell one a day then i only pay 15% of that sale back to the loan per day. there is no time period.

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Default Re: Ebay Account below standard i owe paypal 12k??

What I would do.
1) Open more stealth accounts to get rid of your items.
2) Pay my debt asap because the more you wait the more you will pay. They will find you 100%.
3) Look for other strategies to make money.

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If I'm not mistaken then they take a cut from each of your transactions, until you pay off the debt?
If that is correct, just keep hammering on that account and keep making payments, you want to get rid of that debt ASAP without losing that account.
If you lose the account that has debt on it, then you are in the world of ****s, not giggles. That's not an EXPERT opinion, but thats my opinion and my little knowledge of financial matters tell me that you are not 100% in the right nor are you 100% in the wrong, so you might get shafted even more because people don't know what to do with cases like yours.

If I was you, this is that I'd do:

Keep selling on the account, take a loss but keep hammering so you get the above standard again and regain your position in the market. As this is happening, get other stealth accounts going just to shift the stock and have some cash in hand, in case the first account gets suspended- At least then you are quarter of a step ahead of them in terms of the actual debt.

If everything goes well, you might salvageg the debt ridden account PLUS have couple of extra account that you can sell on. If that happens, maybe you can move the stock quicker in the future and have more working capital without taking shady loans from PP.
If everything goes tits up, I'd take what I have and fly to Costa Rica. **** that noise thats about to hit you because you will be in the world of butthurt and this is not going to be nice, nor will you enjoy it.
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If everything goes tits up, I'd take what I have and fly to Costa Rica.
One of the very few places on earth with no extradition treaty with the UK....you been researching?
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One of the very few places on earth with no extradition treaty with the UK....you been researching?
Only if this counts as research:
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Default Re: Ebay Account below standard i owe paypal 12k??

WTF is wrong with some of you people?
If the OP has debt it is NOBODY's business but his! so what if he loans £10 or £100 000

I mean the police ? really? get real.
He has not said he is running away, skipping the country or not planing to pay it back. It is paypals own fault for approving it regardless of it being stealth or not.
He is obviously doing something right to get approved.

I know it was late to ask, but this poor guy is asking for advice and tips to fix his below standard account so he can save his account AND PAY OFF THE DEBT.

So stop hassling him about his debit.. no one here is qualified enough to do so.

But i guess when one noob decided to jump on the band wagon they all do..
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WTF is wrong with some of you people?
If the OP has debt it is NOBODY's business but his!
I guess when you post on a public forum , you make it others peoples buisness, joys of the interweb
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thanks for advice yeh i am not sure weather next evaluation will run from the 1st may to the end of july or 20th may - 20th august?
Check on your seller dashboard, it should say. Hopefully you can turn it around.

I remember your earlier thread when you first noticed the issue.
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Default Re: Ebay Account below standard i owe paypal 12k??

I agree with others that say open up the second account so even if you loose this account then you are not left with nothing.

I know at the stage you seem to be at that if you loose the account it feels like you are loosing a freind but accounts today offer no loyalty and you need to think what is best for you rather than the ebay account.

But in the future try change the way you monitor problems so that you can react faster and not end up in this position.

The debt part did make me chuckle and thanks for that as some of the responces were funny as ..... from people that have no idea.

Good luck with the account and the new one.
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Man I missed all of this! Gutted, I love a soap box and pop corn moments! Normally its me in the middle
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Man I missed all of this! Gutted, I love a soap box and pop corn moments! Normally its me in the middle
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Seriously, you sell accounts yet have so little knowledge how the process works....

No wonder so many accounts from certain sellers are dropping like flies
I am not getting involved in this fracas but I don't think you quite realise it's not the account seller that is the issue as to why the accounts are going down.

There are patterns emerging and it isn't down to how accounts are created. Let's leave it there and wait to see how this all plays out.

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Aww the fight club posts have been deleted.
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Aww the fight club posts have been deleted.
go figure lol
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appeal the defects, whichever ones are most unreasonable i bet you can get a couple removed. If not you need around 1000 sales without any more of those defects, put stuff on auctions if you can still profit/break even, i often get a higher price through auctions on low value items like that anyway.

multi list loads aswell, every item 10+ times if its high volume


Or I'd just ditch it and start another account, pay the loan off through that. I'm a month late on a paypal loan and they aren't hassling me yet

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I am not getting involved in this fracas but I don't think you quite realise it's not the account seller that is the issue as to why the accounts are going down.

There are patterns emerging and it isn't down to how accounts are created. Let's leave it there and wait to see how this all plays out.
What do you mean by this, are you saying paypal / Ebay have caught onto certain methods?
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What do you mean by this, are you saying paypal / Ebay have caught onto certain methods?
Dont expect an answer, it would jepordise the account sellers business's.
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What do you mean by this, are you saying paypal / Ebay have caught onto certain methods?
Lots of posts have been deleted so what Callidus has said is no longer in context
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