Calling Paypal without revealing your number

[tent905345]

I need to call paypal about something from a landline. If I use BT's 141 service, will it block the number or do they have special call management software that can tell them I have called from that number about another account before? thanks

[Bunneh]

yes it will block if you put that in front of the number.

you can test it by calling your mobile from your landline.

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On a slight tangent, its worth noting that tapping 141 (or #31# for some networks) to withold your number when calling from a 'mobile phone' doesn't always work. Landline is your best solution.

[oompaloompa]

I heard on the forum years ago, dont know if true, if you call a freephone, you cannot hide with 141....

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Originally Posted by oompaloompa

I heard on the forum years ago, dont know if true, if you call a freephone, you cannot hide with 141....

You may be right. I tend to call a "call 0800 for free" number using 141, then use that to connect to PayPal freephone - hoping it adds a little extra safety net.

I also make the call from a number not linked to a PayPal account, so if it did ever leak, it won't be associated with any accounts.

[phaz0rz]

I know this is a UK thread, but over here in USA Paypal has highly advanced call management software. I wouldn't be comfortable taking this risk. Blocking your number would look highly suspicious, in my opinion.

Are you not able to use spoofcard.com, and call in with the number on your account? I've used spoofcard successfully a few times now. You can spoof your number about 3 times before Paypal's system detects that you are spoofing your number. Once they realize you are spoofing your number, they won't even answer your calls anymore. They caught me doing this on an account a few months back. After the 3rd call, I couldn't even get their number to ring anymore.

Again, this advice pertains to USA accounts, but I think it may be helpful in this situation.

[sax4]

I doubt that using 141 would be very suspicious, loads of people are ex-directory now

[Bunneh]

i use skype for 0800 numbers, saves the headache

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Originally Posted by phaz0rz

I know this is a UK thread, but over here in USA Paypal has highly advanced call management software. I wouldn't be comfortable taking this risk. Blocking your number would look highly suspicious, in my opinion.

Are you not able to use spoofcard.com, and call in with the number on your account? I've used spoofcard successfully a few times now. You can spoof your number about 3 times before Paypal's system detects that you are spoofing your number. Once they realize you are spoofing your number, they won't even answer your calls anymore. They caught me doing this on an account a few months back. After the 3rd call, I couldn't even get their number to ring anymore.

Again, this advice pertains to USA accounts, but I think it may be helpful in this situation.

Your spot on. Lucky for us, the UK PayPal hasn't adopted this as of yet.

Regarding spoofing, what gave it away on the third attempt? Seems weird as I would assume a well put together spoofing system won't give it away.

[bluegrass1]

hehe i tried the *67 one time that blocks your number here called my cell showed up private so i called pp the recording said i see your calling from and gave my number i was like doah and hung up

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Originally Posted by bluegrass1

hehe i tried the *67 one time that blocks your number here called my cell showed up private so i called pp the recording said i see your calling from and gave my number i was like doah and hung up

I assume you called from a cell phone? (That also happened to me when I did that).

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by Play

Your spot on. Lucky for us, the UK PayPal hasn't adopted this as of yet.

Regarding spoofing, what gave it away on the third attempt? Seems weird as I would assume a well put together spoofing system won't give it away.

I'm honestly not sure what tipped them off. I did a little research afterwards, and that's when I realized P/P has some of the most advanced phone systems in the world. If you google it, there is phone software that helps companies detect spoofed calls. A message will pop up on the reps screen saying something like "80% chance this number is spoofed" if their systems detect anything suspicious about the call.

I'm clueless in this realm, but those guys at Paypal are quite crafty.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by oompaloompa

I heard on the forum years ago, dont know if true, if you call a freephone, you cannot hide with 141....

Correct - toll-free number calling will display your number

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Originally Posted by phaz0rz

I'm honestly not sure what tipped them off. I did a little research afterwards, and that's when I realized P/P has some of the most advanced phone systems in the world. If you google it, there is phone software that helps companies detect spoofed calls. A message will pop up on the reps screen saying something like "80% chance this number is spoofed" if their systems detect anything suspicious about the call.

I'm clueless in this realm, but those guys at Paypal are quite crafty.

That's quite interesting. I guess we should brace ourselves for when they expand the system across the pond. I guess all the more reason keep your original numbers alive.

For UK guys, the best solutions I've found is ASDA PAYG sims where you only have to top up £5, and make a call/text once every 6 months to keep the sim active. Even if you don't do this, the sim remains active for 9 months. By far the cheapest/simple solution I've come across.

[bluegrass1]

Originally Posted by Play

I assume you called from a cell phone? (That also happened to me when I did that).

It was my home phone

[Prodigious]

I am using A land line with141 in front then0800... Since 3 years for my multiple ebays and PayPal accounts and never have a problem. I guess there is some kind of privacy thing which may not allow PayPal to use any kind of system to see the number if customer does not want to share. But not 100% sure.

[RR2]

If I need to call Ebay or PayPal, I use https://www.spoofcard.com/

[shad0wd0wn]

I just use skype's call o.o it doesn't block or anything, I just use the 6-7 digit code after the contact thing and they don't question or anything.