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how about the mattress?

Gold VS Cryto Currency,which one do you prefer?

also live slightly below your means,I dont mean being frugal,or cheap.

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I don't see silver as a speculative investment just like gold (even though it can be seen as that) but more like a hedge against inflation like you said, and feeling like I have real money which has value in my hands instead of printed worthless paper. Thanks for your imput, I agree.
back in the old days,silver is like gold,people quote in silver .
But silver is often byproduct when you mine other minerals,while gold is scarcer.
It is true,gold does not pay you interest but when Sadam invaded Kuwait,and the Kuwait folks fled into neighboring countries,their currency and credit cards are not accepted,but they can turn their gold into local currency and rent a hotel room,eat and travel.
Gold holds its value when local currency depreciates,like in Venezuela,Argentina.
And some like to fondle gold,

ATTACK,ATTACK,ATTACK.
Dont we wish we could have bought more gold last year ??
Or go to the store and stock up on more water,canned goods,dried goods,generator and first aid.

gold and T bills

THERE IS a bank in FLORIDA WHERE YOU CAN HOLD ACCOUNTS IN FOREIGN CURRENCIES.

sure,Softbank thinks everything internet has the potential to become big,WEWORK,UBER,.LYFT,ETC

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Some sellers attend storage auctions,those small retail shops/even small manufacturers abandoned their storage ,their inventory is OLD NEW STOCK

we could be going into a period where no investment is sound,be a landlord,what good if tenant cant pay rent,open a restaurant,no one comes?
not even sure gold is a good investment,?
dry pasta would soon be better than toilet paper,you can use a wooden stick like the Roman soldiers,but you cant eat a wooden stick!

where were you when oil went negative,seller will pay you $7 to take it off his hands,but you must have storage .

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yaeh,garnish their paycheck,if they have any.

learn how to raise chickens and goats in your backyard,cucumbers are easy to grow,okra too.

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Oil. Give it 1-2 years and it will go back up
do we have your personal guarantee?
go back up from what ?
it was negative 37.50 last week(briefly)

if you dont want to do anything,then leave the money in a bank savings account.or the mattress,with disinflation,your $100 has the same buying power of $105

How do we ever get to this stage?
low rate,no rate,negative rate,at one time banks pay you to borrow,banks charge a fee for holding on to our money?
Elderly living on fixed income have to look for change under the sofa seat/cushion for quarters/dimes so they can buy a loaf of day old bread!

How about the stock market,it can give you a small fortune if you start out with a bigger fortune !

yes,it is price per barrel ,just for a fleeting moment.
But you must take physical delivery,all tankers are FULL,if they are not,they are not available for hire

There are folks who need a short term loan fast and willing to pay high interest rate,some are legit businesses,you have to know where to find the middle man.

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No I don't. I go the London Stock Exchange.

Nobody here is talking about buying barrels of crude you airhead, what is wrong with you?
how do you know?
plenty of people buy physical goods ,it shows how shallow and ignorant you are.
or just to win an argument,pathetic !

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There's no argument to win, nobody here is buying a few barrels of crude to put in their shed, you're just plain wrong as usual
how do you know,did you go around and ask everyone.
I just happen to know one who did,not at -40,.but good enough to make a tidy sum,which you will never see in your life time.

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With all world economies crashing or going to crash big time would betting on the oil price be a quick way to make money and how is it done? and what is the easiest method? Has
You can buy gas,as oil price collapsed,there will be less drilling for oil,they often find gas as well in the process.
So gas price is going up.
Whether it is oil or gas,look for company with low debt

gold has been going up since the virus,but lately it is fluctuating up a few dollars,down a few dollars,could be sign it has peaked.
but in the long run with central banks printing money,gold could be an alternative to currency,what do you think of Swiss Franc?
A friend of mine in Switzerland is having a ball travelling,eating outside Switzerland,in Paris,Malta,Australia with swiss franc

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What about gold ?
dont know about your country,but in US,gold dealers are having a hard time stocking gold buillion,gold coins,gold bars.
You can find major precious metal dealers selling on Ebay and Walmart,some in six figures and bank wire transfer only,no paypal.
But if you buy them on their own website,you get a discount for paying cash(check or wiretransfer)

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find companies that bill gates is investing in, this scumbags foundation claims to be a charity but funny enough was investing in companies which will have a cure for the virus. And dont forget about ⊗⊗⊗⊗ meat companies which he pumped to market and then sold.
The last thing I read is that he is buying Mexico Fund-which is a closed end fund.
But the virus has hit MEXCIAN economy Bad

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how about the mattress?
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im obsessed with trying to buy more tings to sell
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how about the mattress?
The mattress option has it's pros & cons.

PROS:
1: Liquidity. Funds are always available at a moments notice, and can't be frozen by the bank or levied upon for some reason.
2: Convenience & Access to funds. Money is always nearby, even larger amounts.
3: Confidentiality. Nobody except you know exactly how much you have unlike the bank. There is no reporting to the IRS, or silly SAR's that a bank might file on you for doing something "suspicious".

CONS:
1: Your house can burn down, flood and you risk losing everything.
2: You can be robbed, and one of the places some burglars check is under your mattress. This is why having some sort of personal protection is always a good idea (subject to your local laws of course)
3: Your wife/significant other or family members might find out about it and create a problem for you.

But, seriously, don't keep large amounts of cash in your home. If you insist, be sure to invest in a REAL safe, not one of those cheap ones from Walmart or Costco, but a real safe company. Best to call a reputable locksmith. They would know.

There is no one size fits all to investing. Everyone's situation is a little different. For some people, putting it in a savings account is a good option. For others, a mutual fund, IRA/Roth, or index fund would suffice. For others, treasury bills might be better. For folks with higher net worth, having a trusted money manager to help with decisions is always a good idea, too.

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What about silver? I have heard a lot of times that it is undervalued right now. Any thoughts?
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What about silver? I have heard a lot of times that it is undervalued right now. Any thoughts?
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Silver has been pretty stagnant for a long time - I don't see it booming anytime soon, but that is just my own opinion
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First of all, Precious Metals are NOT an investment- they are just a hedge (bet) against fiat, or currency. They are a vehicle that will protect your value from inflation, but they are unlikely to perform better than many other investments (like real estate or stocks) over the longer term.

I used to be a big believer in "investing" in Precious Metals and caught up in all the hyperbole of people like Richard Kiyosaki, Peter Schiff, Mike Maloney, and several others. Some of these guys are fear mongers saying that the economy will crash and gold will be $5,000 "very soon" and you need to get on the bandwagon now, etc. Most of that is a bunch of crap.

I own some PM's myself, but I don't expect to make a whole lot of money with it.
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My advise to the younger generation: Don't overly complicate things.

It's not a magic formula, just do:

1. Pay off ALL debt first, especially revolving consumer debt like credit cards (which are high interest)
2. If you are working, start out by max out your 401k with pre tax dollars.
3. If you have additional cash, put into an IRA/Roth in an Index Fund.
4. Also consider some Real Estate. Have a goal for some income generating property, if possible.

That's pretty much it. Not that complicated.
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silver will go up I think, it is used for medical instruments and may one day be in high demand when our antibiotics lose effectiveness.....

thing is gold is worth having, but it creates no interest as such, other than if the price goes up.

I got reasonable results with peer lending sites for UK. I read though as more saturation in the market, more companies, they lend to lower quality places.

I agree with not living beyond your means, it is one reason how we actually do not need to work anymore at a fairly young age. I will work, but I can do it at my own pace. I can tell you, people I know are quietly seething about it and having to work til 70, I have one friend that no longer talks to me due to it!
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Gold VS Cryto Currency,which one do you prefer?
If you had $10k to invest, and only those two options to invest in, i'd split it 50/50 and invest in both.

They both have their pros and cons.
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Gold VS Cryto Currency,which one do you prefer?
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I don't see silver as a speculative investment just like gold (even though it can be seen as that) but more like a hedge against inflation like you said, and feeling like I have real money which has value in my hands instead of printed worthless paper. Thanks for your imput, I agree.

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also live slightly below your means,I dont mean being frugal,or cheap.
I dont think there is anything wrong with being frugal.
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Depends on how much time if you are talking about 5 years
,if i were you i'd just invest it in bitcoin!
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Depends on how much time if you are talking about 5 years
,if i were you i'd just invest it in bitcoin!
Too volatile
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Lower income and vacation rentals and cash flowing businesses focused on consumables OR simple marketing with flexibility on products.

Right now my prettier half and myself are focused in very tiny nitches of high ROI cashflow businesses with big tax advantages.

Not keeping all income in USD can be a big advantage for people with some cash.
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10% on your money per year is amazing if you're just investing extra money and need something to do with it. But if you're trying to MAKE money, it's probably one of the worst things to do.

But I don't think I need to explain that to anyone here.(Hopefully)

I agree with you, if you are looking to make money its not the best thing to do. If you have your hands full and would just like a bit of money instead of having it sit in the account, maybe but still, its still a lot for only 10%.

I could easily turn that 10k to at least 40K profits by the end of the year, just by trading goods.

I would want at least 50% return if am to hand you over 10K.

I am also a Web Developer, I was thinking of investing or opening a software house once I get enough Capital. The amount of money in software engineering is ridiculous.

I would advise you guys to look for coding start ups, people with good ideas, look for something you think has the potential to become big.
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buy bulk products and sell on ebay, amazon, etsy... you'll earn better
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buy bulk products and sell on ebay, amazon, etsy... you'll earn better
Fierce competition to overcome but doable
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P2P loan market would be an option
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Oil. Give it 1-2 years and it will go back up
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