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That's really good to see. I'm done speculating at this point - the rabbit hole is endless. Once it's known where the virus truly came from the story will be easier to piece together. Nature vs bio lab.

I do think Xi was sending a message to Trump and/or the world by building the hospital so quickly. "Look, I saw them build a hospital in very short time." He was impressed, he's into building things. Kinda coincidental.

Putting the economy on lockdown. Intentionally under-reporting or lack of ability/need to report accurate death count. Then sending aid. Makes Communism look superior to Democracy, which those flaws are showing now. Add it to the current politics between China/US it doesn't help much. And all the stuff that will be going down in 20 some odd years.
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"Strange pneumonia" in Italy as far back as November.

Part of the transcript South Morning China Post is referencing. Interview on NPR with Italian Professor Giuseppe Remuzzi.


POGGIOLI: Some question why Italy was caught off guard when the virus outbreak was revealed on February 21. Remuzzi says only now is he hearing new information from general practitioners.

REMUZZI: That they remember having seen very strange pneumonias, very severe, particularly in old people in December and even in November. It means that the virus was circulating at least in Lombardy before we were aware of this outbreak occurring in China.

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/817974987


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“They [general practitioners] remember having seen very strange pneumonia, very severe, particularly in old people in December and even November,” Giuseppe Remuzzi, the director of the Mario Negri Institute for Pharmacological Research in Milan, said in an interview with the National Public Radio of the United States.

“This means that the virus was circulating, at least in [the northern region of] Lombardy and before we were aware of this outbreak occurring in China.”

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...vember-leading


Government records suggest first person infected with new disease may have been a Hubei resident aged 55, but ‘patient zero’ has yet to be confirmed

Some of the cases were likely backdated after health authorities had tested specimens taken from suspected patients.

Interviews with whistle-blowers from the medical community suggest Chinese doctors only realised they were dealing with a new disease in late December.

Accounts by other doctors seem to suggest the medical community in Wuhan became aware of the disease in late December.

According to the government data seen by the Post, a 55 year-old from Hubei province could have been the first person to have contracted Covid-19 on November 17.

Previous reports said that although doctors in the city collected samples from suspected cases in late December, they could not confirm their findings because they were bogged down by bureaucracy, such as having to get approval from the Chinese Centre for Disease Control and Prevention, which could take days. They were also ordered not to disclose any information about the new disease to the public.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...se-traced-back


Sooooo.... could have originated anywhere based on the new evidence. China may be getting wrongfully blamed as the origin (2002-2003 SARS origin being China). Dunno yet.

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Sooooo.... could have originated anywhere based on the new evidence. China may be getting wrongfully blamed as the origin (2002-2003 SARS origin being China). Dunno yet.
Anything is possible lol. but I highly doubt it. China has been hard at work creating propaganda for this for the past 4 months. If you're going to post anything from anyone, maybe best not to post from a Chinese source.

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The fact that this virus spreads so quickly,one wonder if this is bred for biological warfare ?

My USPS priority shipments to Germany is same,SLUGGISH !

yes,pent up demand?
But we will all be poorer,loss of income,medical bills,margin calls.
Many are forced to sell their stocks to meet margin calls .
renters cant pay rent,landlord then cant make their mortgage payments and banks lose money.
Companies are omitting dividend,so stockholders will starve if they are counting on a dividend check !
There will be more crimes,like in 2008.

not if you live in CA and renting !
Some business may not come back,so there will be real inflation,due to supply and demand

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ebay international shipping uses DHL, And they've been taking forever.
I bet you pay less for Ebay DHL

I did,2 shipments,tracking shows they are in Frankfurt now,they have cleared customs.

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Would you please tell me more? When was your shipment picked up and where? Where is it heading? What carrier did you use?
On march 26 central time,my mail man picked up 2 USPS priority packages from me,they went to CHicago Intl distribution center and then flew to GERMANY,must have cleared customs yesterday,the last I heard it was leaving Frankfurt to Norderstedt.
Carrier is gold old post office,so in GERMANY it is good old Deutshe Post

Elon Musk donated some respirators,some said he got them from China

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The fact that this virus spreads so quickly,one wonder if this is bred for biological warfare ?
Or it's been spreading for awhile, and we are only now becoming more aware of it. I'd be money that millions of americans have already been infected, and or were already infected.
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Only 2% growth yesterday. 3rd day in a row of a declining growth factor. (Please be a trend, please be a trend! )

Critical/serious still hovering around 2.2%

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SARS and Covid19 are pretty close on this chart. The extreme number of cases and the contagiousness doesn't add up. That says it's been around longer than previously thought.



https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...sars-ebola-flu

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Looked it up - South Morning China Post turns out to be in HK.

There is pro-Trump news in HK right now

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...-democracy-act

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4th day in a row of declining growth factor! Woohoo

Sunday was 2.3% and yesterday was 1.9%(they both round to 2 on my chart).

Serious/critical is 2.25%


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4th day in a row of declining growth! Woohoo

Sunday was 2.3% and yesterday was 1.9%(they both round to 2 on my chart).

Serious/critical is 2.25%

I mean, with how much everything is locked down, I'm not really surprised? I'd have been surprised if it didn't. But, now what? Can't stay locked down forever.
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But, now what? Can't stay locked down forever.
I know. But hopefully every state won't overrun their hospital capacity. And can get the needed supplies in for when we do go back out into public, they are better set up to handle this mess.

It's one of the reasons so many are dying in certain places.
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I'm sure you've seen all the curve models and heard the news talk about it...
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The trend we were on, about a week ago, had us at 1.6 million cases by April 4th. By the looks of things, now, we won't be anywhere near that. Thank goodness.

12 days out from that date, we would have been at 50,000,000 ish. Just to show you what NOT DOING ANYTHING would have accomplished. People couldn't have even been cared for in the hospitals.

After this, like you say, the best thing to do will be protect the elderly and the immunocompromised and everyone get back to work. With some safety precautions thrown into the mix.
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now mexcians cant get into this country to pick water melons,lettuce,grapes,oranges,apples
Okay???????

Can't the mexicans we ALREADY have who ALREADY pick them, CONTINUE to pick them?

Or is that why we have so many immigrants? A new one to pick each fruit?
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now mexcians cant get into this country to pick water melons,lettuce,grapes,oranges,apples
Are you saying this as a negative or a positive thing?
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Are you saying this as a negative or a positive thing?

Probably just SAYING it lol
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How SARS played out during the same time of year. Could be done with by Spring.

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Uptick in new case growth yesterday, by a lot more than I hoped. 22%
2.5% serious/critical

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Uptick in new case growth yesterday, by a lot more than I hoped. 22%
2.5% serious/critical

couldn't be because of the ramping up of testing, right?
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NEGATIVE,IF YOU LIKE TO EAT WATER MELON.
BUT our local store sells Mexican water melon,not Florida ones
I love watermelon. I would give it up to save this country.
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That's not all I'd consider sacrificing for the greater good......
You don't know how much I love water melon
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Meanwhile in Turkmenistan...

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