Vero contact

vettefever17 · #1 10-02-2017

I just had a supposed vero agent contact me. I have never had a vero agent contact me through ebay. It has always been through an ebay infraction. Could this be a competitor trying to push me out of the market? I did a search for the enforcement llc and they are connected with the brand, but I find it highly odd they used an ebay username and private message. I have temporarily removed the listing, but I am unsure if this is legit or not.

**SaiJin** · #2 10-02-2017

There should be a direct email and other contact info in that message you got so that you can deal directly with them if they are legit.

I don't know what you are selling, but different companies do different things.

vettefever17 · #3 10-02-2017

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Originally Posted by SaiJin

There should be a direct email and other contact info in that message you got so that you can deal directly with them if they are legit.

I don't know what you are selling, but different companies do different things.

No major email left. They wanted contact through that message. Also, I noticed grammatical errors in their "legal" rendering.

rsot · #4 10-02-2017

Grammatical errors USUALLY means bogus e-mail.

And USUALLY these brand name legal teams will send a letter - registered will hold higher weight...first class mail = garbage.

Info for you to consider.

Still have questions or concerns? Time for legal consultation - beyond scope of this forum.

nickopedia · #5 10-02-2017

Don't trust messages though eBay messaging from anyone claiming to be someone "official" such as law enforcement or "vero agent".

I once had a supposed "attorney" contact me via eBay messaging claiming the items I had listed were ⊗⊗⊗⊗. I responded right off to contact me via official methods, or take a hike. I never heard from him again.

rsot · #6 10-02-2017

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Originally Posted by nickopedia

Don't trust messages though eBay messaging from anyone claiming to be someone "official" such as law enforcement or "vero agent".

I once had a supposed "attorney" contact me via eBay messaging claiming the items I had listed were ⊗⊗⊗⊗. I responded right off to contact me via official methods, or take a hike. I never heard from him again.

vettefever17 · #7 10-02-2017

I am 95% sure that it is bogus and a competitor. As I have been selling this item for a very long time. Ebay has always been the one to police Vero. If it is a third party team, then they are highly unprofessional.

nickopedia · #8 10-03-2017

There are a lot of nutjobs on eBay that will try and strongarm or accuse you of something. As a professional seller that's been doing this a long time, you would know better.

In regard to the "Vero Agent" that contacted you, as they say in New York: Fuggedaboutit!

vettefever17 · #9 10-03-2017

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Originally Posted by nickopedia

There are a lot of nutjobs on eBay that will try and strongarm or accuse you of something. As a professional seller that's been doing this a long time, you would know better.

In regard to the "Vero Agent" that contacted you, as they say in New York: Fuggedaboutit!

Exactly! Had this happen years ago on Amazon.

dallis · #10 10-03-2017

My gut tells me if they were real and serious, they'd be sending you a certified 'cease and desist' letter via USPS, or some other mechanism that can be proven in court so that they can tell a judge 'we told him to stop and he didn't, now we're damaged to XXX extent'.

If they're truly a VERO member they'd just process a take-down order through EB and wouldn't need to send any notification at all, true? You wouldn't even know who did it, just that your listing was killed. EB doesn't verify the accuracy of claims, they just act.

Bad grammar in a legal doc? It's not unheard of, certainly, but hardly conclusive...

Did they give you contact information? A file number? Anything you can independently confirm? Or was it essentially a nameless, faceless threat?

dhand · #11 10-03-2017

There are some bully law firms sending out emails trying to scare sellers from from selling their clients products. They can't win in court because of the Constitionality of private ownership. However if they show their clients they got stuff removed they can chalk it up as a win. I had one email me about some vitamins and a friend had the same over some sunglasses.

dhand · #12 10-03-2017

I emailed them back and told them to go to hell and read the Constitution.. I didn't hear back from them

Kajunrook · #13 10-03-2017

did it say something like ebayenforcement, that dude is crazy

MM78 · #14 10-03-2017

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Originally Posted by Kajunrook

did it say something like ebayenforcement, that dude is crazy

Lots of those around.

nickopedia · #15 10-03-2017

Then there are what I call the "eBay Police". Basically a "band" of people who are always going around harassing a particular group of sellers listing some particular item(s) that they claim are ⊗⊗⊗⊗, counterfeit, or a "listing violation" has occured, etc. They will threten to report you, or worse yet: "call the police" about my items to "force eBay to remove them". (I'm trembling from fear)

vettefever17 · #16 10-03-2017

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Originally Posted by dallis

My gut tells me if they were real and serious, they'd be sending you a certified 'cease and desist' letter via USPS, or some other mechanism that can be proven in court so that they can tell a judge 'we told him to stop and he didn't, now we're damaged to XXX extent'.

If they're truly a VERO member they'd just process a take-down order through EB and wouldn't need to send any notification at all, true? You wouldn't even know who did it, just that your listing was killed. EB doesn't verify the accuracy of claims, they just act.

Bad grammar in a legal doc? It's not unheard of, certainly, but hardly conclusive...

Did they give you contact information? A file number? Anything you can independently confirm? Or was it essentially a nameless, faceless threat?

It was just copy pasta I do believe But their legal rendering was flawed quite a bit. They tried to sound far too professional with small verb mistakes.

vettefever17 · #17 10-03-2017

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Originally Posted by nickopedia

Then there are what I call the "eBay Police". Basically a "band" of people who are always going around harassing a particular group of sellers listing some particular item(s) that they claim are ⊗⊗⊗⊗, counterfeit, or a "listing violation" has occured, etc. They will threten to report you, or worse yet: "call the police" about my items to "force eBay to remove them". (I'm trembling from fear)

I love the "do-gooders". Those women that go around trying to find things that are against TOS supposedly.

vettefever17 · #18 10-03-2017

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Originally Posted by dhand

I emailed them back and told them to go to hell and read the Constitution.. I didn't hear back from them

Just messaged the person back and pointed out their errors in their document with a nice allow me to contact ebay about this. It should be interesting to hear back a response, if one even comes.

nickopedia · #19 10-03-2017

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Originally Posted by vettefever17

I love the "do-gooders". Those women that go around trying to find things that are against TOS supposedly.

Do-Gooders is a perfect way to describe those people.
Amazingly, they have WAY too much time on their hands.

dallis · #20 10-04-2017

Do-evilers, more like.

bjammin · #21 10-05-2017

Sounds phake to me.

If they wanted your contact information then they would request it from ebay and ebay would send you a notification telling you that this person requested your info (in this process, ebay also gives you their information).

Then this person either call, emails, or mails you something. Sounds like POS competition to me. They are trying to intimidate you.

Regardless, if they are legit, then they should have formally communicated with you, not by ebay message.

vettefever17 · #22 10-06-2017

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Originally Posted by bjammin

Sounds phake to me.

If they wanted your contact information then they would request it from ebay and ebay would send you a notification telling you that this person requested your info (in this process, ebay also gives you their information).

Then this person either call, emails, or mails you something. Sounds like POS competition to me. They are trying to intimidate you.

Regardless, if they are legit, then they should have formally communicated with you, not by ebay message.

I have yet to hear a reply back. The item at hand is sold very cheap with obvious imperfections. The nearest competitor is quite a ways off in pricing.