More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...

[quantum]

See below..

We have reviewed the documentation you provided and determined that it does not meet our requirements for the following reasons:

File name: invoice from supplier

-- You have provided an invoice that has not been fulfilled by the supplier.

[murdered_by_ebay]

no reason to be surprised , amazon have been actively putting pressure on parties involved in selling

just a couple of weeks ago , for example , I received a message from amazon about my payments to wise being blocked until wise conduct additional verification of my account and let amazon know the result asking me to contact wise so that they start verification

you think if they can do it with companies like wise they do not do it with suppliers?

[yobar]

In specific cases in the United States, a company cannot give out personal information about a customer.
So if you sell car tires and Amazon asks you for an invoice.
You buy a well-made ⊗⊗⊗⊗ invoice and Amazon believes it to be true and will simply accept it. By law, they cannot ask for information about what a customer buys.

[SaiJin]

Yes, it's known that they do call suppliers from time to time.

[agent006140]

No,they can.
When I apply for an account with a wholesaler,distributor ,manufacturer,they can ask for 2 references from other wholesalers I do business with.
NET 30 MEANS you have 30 days to pay your bills,what if you take off without paying?

also AMZN in a way is helping to stop sale of counterfeit,knock offs,so it helps them

I have never heard of such law,

this is not an invoice,it is a retail receipt.it just shows someone bought an item at the retail store.

There is this guy on this forum said he created a website as his supplier and wait for AMZN to call,but AMZN did not call him.

For some merchandise,the manufacturer has a list of approved wholesalers/distributors,so it is easy to verify,eg Leica camera,Rolex watches.
And some do not even have any,such as Tiffany,Chanel.
Someone sold Chanel leather handbags etc on Ebay,claiming they go to Paris every summer and picked up for sale items in a stores and even showed credit card receipts ,Chanel moved in and removed all her listings.

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay

do not bull**** people here , it has been a known fact for years that amazon accept invoices from certain suppliers only , I doubt you ever had invoices accepted otherwise you would know how strict they are with ungating and reinstating removed listings

AMZN also could ask the manufacturers for a list of wholesalers,I bet they are more than happy to supply them

[murdered_by_ebay]

Originally Posted by yobar

In specific cases in the United States, a company cannot give out personal information about a customer.
So if you sell car tires and Amazon asks you for an invoice.
You buy a well-made ⊗⊗⊗⊗ invoice and Amazon believes it to be true and will simply accept it. By law, they cannot ask for information about what a customer buys.

they have a list of authorized suppliers , any supplier who refuses to give out information will have their invoices rejected which is eventually a problem for the seller

I suspect that all of these authorized suppliers also have amazon as a major buyer for their own sales with a dedicated manager processing their orders and I doubt they would be in the mood of losing amazon as customer

[quantum]

Originally Posted by yobar

In specific cases in the United States, a company cannot give out personal information about a customer.
So if you sell car tires and Amazon asks you for an invoice.
You buy a well-made ⊗⊗⊗⊗ invoice and Amazon believes it to be true and will simply accept it. By law, they cannot ask for information about what a customer buys.

Maybe not giving out personal information, but they confirm whether the invoice number is real or ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

[yobar]

Surely on your invoice you used a normal shipping provider such as USPS or FEDEX or one of these.
You must use a provider where a tracking number is not required.
The invoice you deliver to Amazon must be an invoice with a stamp that looks real. you must place your username and quantities sold on a separate piece of paper

[rsot]

Originally Posted by agent006140

I have never heard of such law,

what law are you referring to

[quantum]

Originally Posted by yobar

Surely on your invoice you used a normal shipping provider such as USPS or FEDEX or one of these.
You must use a provider where a tracking number is not required.
The invoice you deliver to Amazon must be an invoice with a stamp that looks real. you must place your username and quantities sold on a separate piece of paper

That would make sense, but it doesn't have a tracking number.. only order number, invoice number, and reference number. Shipping info says "multiple" so there's no way Amazon could track this order.

[quantum]

Also.. this invoice I sent to Amazon is a big box retailer. I would imagine that it's a bit easier to confirm invoices with a big box retailer. It might be a bit different with smaller name wholesalers/distributors.

[OldTom]

Originally Posted by quantum

Also.. this invoice I sent to Amazon is a big box retailer. I would imagine that it's a bit easier to confirm invoices with a big box retailer. It might be a bit different with smaller name wholesalers/distributors.

No phone call required for this one. Instant rejection for retailer receipts.

They want invoices from your wholesaler or supplier.

[OldTom]

Originally Posted by yobar

In specific cases in the United States, a company cannot give out personal information about a customer.
So if you sell car tires and Amazon asks you for an invoice.
You buy a well-made ⊗⊗⊗⊗ invoice and Amazon believes it to be true and will simply accept it. By law, they cannot ask for information about what a customer buys.

Absolutely correct. Same in most parts of the world. There is no way that Amazon are calling wholesalers demanding, nor expecting, confidential customer information.

They might, just might, call the supplier to see if the pick up the phone but I even doubt that. IMO it is a myth that the have access to our information fueled by fanciful hearsay. No one has ever provided any proof that Amazon have successfully persuaded anyone to divulge personal and confidential business agreements.

[OldTom]

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay

they have a list of authorized suppliers , any supplier who refuses to give out information will have their invoices rejected which is eventually a problem for the seller

Not true. You've simply made that up.

Show us where you found this agreement.

If this 'list' did exist how many sellers do you think use them? I'd guess at less than 1%. It's too ridiculous to take seriously.

I suspect you are, as always seems to be the case with your posts, scaremongering and being deliberately negative. You are forever telling folk you have access to information nobody else has ever heard of. Why you persist in doing this I do not know other than maybe having some 'motive'.

No wonder this forum is collapsing with deliberate misinformation being digested as true.

[murdered_by_ebay]

show us that such an agreement does not exist? amazon wrote many times about authorized suppliers and not authorized suppliers

the forum has less activity because too many people got kicked out , there are barely any account sellers left too

[OldTom]

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay

show us that such an agreement does not exist?

Fantastic logic

But I didn't expect any other kind of answer...because you simply can't offer a single shred of evidence that they do, and definitely can't prove that wholesalers will hand over our confidential details willy-nilly.

So if your fantasy list of wholesalers did exist, what percentage of Amazon sellers do you think use this list? Where do you think my 'less than 1%' would stand in your world?

EDIT: I seem to remember you saying it was in the user agreement, a link to that will do.

[e2free]

Originally Posted by OldTom

Fantastic logic

But I didn't expect any other kind of answer...because you simply can't offer a single shred of evidence that they do, and definitely can't prove that wholesalers will hand over our confidential details willy-nilly.

So if your fantasy list of wholesalers did exist, what percentage of Amazon sellers do you think use this list? Where do you link my 'less than 1%' would stand in your world?

You seems don’t know Amazon, they can do things which we think are not possible
Have a look email which they send to wholesalers or suppliers to confirm

Hello,



A third party seller on Amazon has provided us with invoices from your company. We would like to verify the details of the transaction.



Invoice Number: xxxx

Date: xxx

Item Purchased: xxx

Qty: xxx



Please confirm that this information matches your records. Any additional information you can provide will be helpful as well.



We appreciate your assistance in this matter. Any information shared will be kept confidential.



Reference Number: xxxxxx



Regards,

Amazon Invoice Verification Team

[OldTom]

Originally Posted by e2free

You seems don’t know Amazon, they can do things which we think are not possible
Have a look email which they send to wholesalers or suppliers to confirm

Hello,



A third party seller on Amazon has provided us with invoices from your company. We would like to verify the details of the transaction.



Invoice Number: xxxx

Date: xxx

Item Purchased: xxx

Qty: xxx



Please confirm that this information matches your records. Any additional information you can provide will be helpful as well.



We appreciate your assistance in this matter. Any information shared will be kept confidential.



Reference Number: xxxxxx



Regards,

Amazon Invoice Verification Team

Firstly, that's not a phone call.

Secondly, why has this email never been aired before? I think you've just made that up, looks like a child wrote it.

"Amazon Invoice Verification Team" ....beyond funny.

[quantum]

Originally Posted by OldTom

No phone call required for this one. Instant rejection for retailer receipts.

They want invoices from your wholesaler or supplier.

Not true. Invoices from big box retailers work, you just have to resubmit a few times. Just because it's from a big box retailer doesn't mean it's a retail receipt.

[OldTom]

Originally Posted by quantum

Not true. Invoices from big box retailers work, you just have to resubmit a few times. Just because it's from a big box retailer doesn't mean it's a retail receipt.

Okay, submit it again then. Problem solved.

[quantum]

If you read the original post, I didn't state that I had an issue. Just pointing out that Amazon does verify these invoices in some way.

[OldTom]

Originally Posted by quantum

If you read the original post, I didn't state that I had an issue. Just pointing out that Amazon does verify these invoices in some way.

Pretty certain most reader would view your post as having a problem.

In your case they didn't verify it, they simply declined it outright - not sure what made you think they'd gone to any trouble and I can assure you they didn't call, or send e2free's email to your big box retailer.