How to deal with chinese sellers?

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by Automasters

I like to steal stuff back from them - reverse engineer products they stole from here, then make changes to it they cannot do easily...

Got any examples of times you've done this?

[kirkland]

Most of my stuff is wholesaled from China, I guess you could say I compete with them.

I dont have any good strategies tbh. If the space is hot enough I have found I can still carve my little niche in there even if they sell cheaper. Sometimes I outsell them sometimes I dont. I somehow do well enough that I havent been priced out yet

Best advice I can give? Idk, but Ive noticed the Chinese sellers often use Amazon style listing photos and text copy's with typos galore and your typical "Chinglish" descriptions. Often my listings are better written, my photos are either custom/taken by hand or if I do use stock photos, I add a lot of photoshop sexiness to spruce them up. Im guessing my success is due to that, when I *am* successful I do tend to lead the categories Im in. Recently some Chinese sellers have started stealing my images and descriptions and the drop-off has been pretty dramatic. Can't report them like I used to.

Is what it is. Im still here.

[hello1212]

Originally Posted by kirkland

Most of my stuff is wholesaled from China, I guess you could say I compete with them.

I dont have any good strategies tbh. If the space is hot enough I have found I can still carve my little niche in there even if they sell cheaper. Sometimes I outsell them sometimes I dont. I somehow do well enough that I havent been priced out yet

Best advice I can give? Idk, but Ive noticed the Chinese sellers often use Amazon style listing photos and text copy's with typos galore and your typical "Chinglish" descriptions. Often my listings are better written, my photos are either custom/taken by hand or if I do use stock photos, I add a lot of photoshop sexiness to spruce them up. Im guessing my success is due to that, when I *am* successful I do tend to lead the categories Im in. Recently some Chinese sellers have started stealing my images and descriptions and the drop-off has been pretty dramatic. Can't report them like I used to.

Is what it is. Im still here.

Actually it's Amazon copying Chinese sellers listing styles because they 1:1 resell their low quality products and up-charge crazy! Amazon are even too lazy to take their own pictures

Check it out for yourself, 90% of the generic items you'll find for sale on Amazon have their pictures being used on sites such as Alibaba.. Shameless

Back on topic that sounds good and also, the greatest distinction we have against them is that we are based in the West, so if you have the ability to bulk buy and store goods in the country your selling in, more people would be inclined to purchase directly from you and receive their order within a few days, as apposed to a few weeks/months, although some China suppliers have agents in the west but that's another conversation.. They mostly operate from mainland I believe

[User220]

Anyone can help with facebook market place account restrictions please

[hello1212]

Originally Posted by User220

Anyone can help with facebook market place account restrictions please

If you got your access to the marketplace revoked due to selling prohibited or counterfeit items, your best bet is to send support proof that it's not counterfeit (make one up) it could pass, it could not I've passed it before but it's hit or miss really and feels like they use automation for the decision.

If this isn't your first time having been warned on that account you'll need a new one.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by User220

Anyone can help with facebook market place account restrictions please

Best to make a separate thread -

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by hello1212

Actually it's Amazon copying Chinese sellers listing styles because they 1:1 resell their low quality products and up-charge crazy! Amazon are even too lazy to take their own pictures

Check it out for yourself, 90% of the generic items you'll find for sale on Amazon have their pictures being used on sites such as Alibaba.. Shameless

Back on topic that sounds good and also, the greatest distinction we have against them is that we are based in the West, so if you have the ability to bulk buy and store goods in the country your selling in, more people would be inclined to purchase directly from you and receive their order within a few days, as apposed to a few weeks/months, although some China suppliers have agents in the west but that's another conversation.. They mostly operate from mainland I believe

It is well known there are Chinese warehouses in California stocked with popular goods sold on Ebay and AMZN,any Chinese seller can register and copy the item and description from them and sell on Ebay,and ask them to ship.
(This is how they can say they are based in China but ship domestic !

[phaz0rz]

Originally Posted by agent006140

It is well known there are Chinese warehouses in California stocked with popular goods sold on Ebay and AMZN,any Chinese seller can register and copy the item and description from them and sell on Ebay,and ask them to ship.
(This is how they can say they are based in China but ship domestic !

Please message me the contact details so I can contact one of these warehouses for inventory. Or do I have to be Chinese to qualify?

[agent006140]

SOrry,I dont have the details,may be search on some Chinese forums.
Or ask some Alibaba sellers if they know.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by agent006140

SOrry,I dont have the details,may be search on some Chinese forums.
Or ask some Alibaba sellers if they know.

Chuckle contribution - thanks agent

[hello1212]

Originally Posted by agent006140

It is well known there are Chinese warehouses in California stocked with popular goods sold on Ebay and AMZN,any Chinese seller can register and copy the item and description from them and sell on Ebay,and ask them to ship.
(This is how they can say they are based in China but ship domestic !

I've always suspected this.. Makes total sense!

[kirkland]

Originally Posted by hello1212

Actually it's Amazon copying Chinese sellers listing styles because they 1:1 resell their low quality products and up-charge crazy! Amazon are even too lazy to take their own pictures

Check it out for yourself, 90% of the generic items you'll find for sale on Amazon have their pictures being used on sites such as Alibaba.. Shameless

Back on topic that sounds good and also, the greatest distinction we have against them is that we are based in the West, so if you have the ability to bulk buy and store goods in the country your selling in, more people would be inclined to purchase directly from you and receive their order within a few days, as apposed to a few weeks/months, although some China suppliers have agents in the west but that's another conversation.. They mostly operate from mainland I believe

Thats a good point too, although many Chinese sellers now seem to have warehouses in the US. Mostly in Cali but some TX as well

The direct from China sellers were never really competition for me, I always outsold them. the US warehoused Chinese sellers can be problematic though

[hello1212]

Originally Posted by kirkland

Thats a good point too, although many Chinese sellers now seem to have warehouses in the US. Mostly in Cali but some TX as well

The direct from China sellers were never really competition for me, I always outsold them. the US warehoused Chinese sellers can be problematic though

Good to hear haha, yep I prefer to buy from the west myself, cba waiting weeks/months at a time to receive something

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by hello1212

Good to hear haha, yep I prefer to buy from the west myself, cba waiting weeks/months at a time to receive something

Cost wise thought buying from the east is nicer

[hello1212]

Originally Posted by SaiJin

Cost wise thought buying from the east is nicer

This is true I guess it depends on what your buying..

For example I purchased bespoke/custom made shutters for my house that would've costed me $20-25,000+ here in the UK, bought them for under $3000 with freight from mainland (will take 1-2 months for delivery, but worth the wait, saving me $20k+)

I'd say buy locally for cheaper items (accessories etc) and expensive stuff from Asia is a good call, as most of the expensive stuff sold in the west originates from Asia anyways haha

[agent006140]

dunno about UK,but US customs anything over $3K will require a customs broker to clear,

[hello1212]

Originally Posted by agent006140

dunno about UK,but US customs anything over $3K will require a customs broker to clear,

Under declare it, simples

[agent006140]

It is not unusual for a business to import $4-5 figures merchandise,some retailer will go to the airport/railroad station and clear customs himself and haul the goods back to his store.
It saves him a lot of money than getting a trucking company to do it.

[hello1212]

Originally Posted by agent006140

It is not unusual for a business to import $4-5 figures merchandise,some retailer will go to the airport/railroad station and clear customs himself and haul the goods back to his store.
It saves him a lot of money than getting a trucking company to do it.

Best way to do it is describe your item or a similar cheaper item and say it's either for repair/broken or a return with the country of origin being the parcels destination with a $50-200 declaration. Pay a small fee $10-20 and it should pass every time

[agent006140]

Originally Posted by hello1212

Best way to do it is describe your item or a similar cheaper item and say it's either for repair/broken or a return with the country of origin being the parcels destination with a $50-200 declaration. Pay a small fee $10-20 and it should pass every time

I am referring to full time retailers who owns a business,not individuals selling single items.

[hello1212]

Originally Posted by agent006140

I am referring to full time retailers who owns a business,not individuals selling single items.

Works irrespective of business or personal use, same logic applies.

[JustinaB]

this has been over 10 years dude. you have to sell something special to avoid the competition.