NFL Season 2013 has begun

[Sandy D]

Originally Posted by vogeltron

I think another head to head matchup of Brady vs Manning. Even though it is a team game. Since Brady has had the upper hand for so long and such a better playoff record etc. If Brady beats Manning to go to the Superbowl this will leave Manning behind Brady in the QB discussion. If Manning wins it could bring save his relevance and help him get past that Postseason woes he has had his entire career.

Marino and Montana were the two best of their era. Montana had all the talent and great teams and Marino was stuck with a couple of WR and not much other talent around him.

I would put Marino and Montana at the top of any top QBS of their era and maybe event the top 10 of all time.

You seem to judge QBs by how many SBs they have won. I do not. It counts but does not weigh everything. There have been some great QBS who never even made it to the SB.

[Sandy D]

Going to stick with my Sept prediction of Broncos vs 49ers in the Super Bowl.


Pats can be scary but with so many injuries everywhere I dont think they can shut down Manning and all those weapons.

49ers should beat Seahawks but Seahawks D might be the best in the league.


2 great games could go either way.

[rsot]

Hoping the 49ers pull through the Seahawks - past playoff experience should help but Seahawks vs Broncos would be the interesting matchup that MANY people predicted...

[Sandy D]

Originally Posted by rsot

Hoping the 49ers pull through the Seahawks - past playoff experience should help but Seahawks vs Broncos would be the interesting matchup that MANY people predicted...

I dont recall seeing anyone predicting the Seahawks going to the SB vs the Broncos.

[rsot]

I read around - was seeing that. 49ers track record vs Seahawks is weak but here's hoping.

Broncos vs Pats is going to be very solid skillful game

[mcmx]

Originally Posted by Sandy D

How many MOST VALUABLE PLAYERS have each won?

Peyton will win MVP again this year.

Hard to compare side by side so you have to factor in everything.

It will be a matter of opinion because both are good, Peyton is better in my opinion overall.

Still think Peyton had some talent around him but never the talent Brady has had on BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL.

Pats teams were always loaded with great players on both sides.



Guess the only person who can answer would be Wes Welker.

This says a lot (number 1 note on the list)

Ten-Point Stance: Mike Freeman's NFL Notebook Heading into Title Games | Bleacher Report

[rsot]

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[Sandy D]

Originally Posted by mcmx

This says a lot (number 1 note on the list)

Ten-Point Stance: Mike Freeman's NFL Notebook Heading into Title Games | Bleacher Report

This is how I view it.

From the same article-

It's your classic Wilt Chamberlain versus Bill Russell argument: One gets more impressive statistical numbers, but the other wins more. Who would you take?

To me it is so even on most everything but when it comes down to who is the most valuable player to a team, Manning is way ahead so for me, it would again go with Manning if I had to vote.

I like Brady and actually followed the Pats for many years but the only true person to know the answer would be Wes Welker.

[Sandy D]

Originally Posted by rsot

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And to think all those NFL know it all specialist said Wilson is too small.

Boy they must not have dug very deep to know this kid is a gamer.

[rsot]

Wilson did break through the negative reviews of him

[nyc]

I like Wilson but I hate the Seattle defense. On every passing play they should be called for defensive pass interference or defensive holding but they never are because it's illuminatied.

[Sandy D]

Pete Carroll.

Masterful coach who knows the game extremely well and always take advantages of anything he can to win.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by nyc

I like Wilson but I hate the Seattle defense. On every passing play they should be called for defensive pass interference or defensive holding but they never are because it's illuminatied.

Interesting take - the interference is pretty sloppy on their part

[nodeal]

glad to see some people pulling for the 49ers… My time since I was a little kid. Great to see them in the post-season the past 3 years. Heartbroken when they lost the SB last year, hoping they go all the way this year.

[Sandy D]

Originally Posted by rsot

Interesting take - the interference is pretty sloppy on their part

Not sloppy. Well planned aggressiveness.

[Sandy D]

Tomorrow games are going to be awesome.

Denver and SF offense can flat out be scary. If those two teams put up a lot of scores I dont know if NE and Seattle can match it.

Will see.

[nyc]

Only if we had a gambling section to this forum then I would be betting you accounts sandy lol.

[Sandy D]

Originally Posted by nyc

Only if we had a gambling section to this forum then I would be betting you accounts sandy lol.

I would hope not as I picked 3 of the final 4 teams back in Sept.

If SF and Denver go to the super bowl I just won at least 1000.00 in a poll as I would be the only one in the poll to have picked those two.

Wont do less then 500.00 as I picked those 3 out of the 4 final teams.

I would hate to take your money NYC.

[rsot]

Game 1 Broncos...Pats...on

[nyc]

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[rsot]

Pats are not dealing with the Broncos well

[Sandy D]

Originally Posted by nyc

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He is so darn smart and way ahead of anyone playing the game.

He knows everyone's moves, changes the plays based on so many factors.

Last drive he completey abused the Pats D with time and smart plays.

His audibles show he is a master because he sees something and makes it happen based on his knowledge.

Not many players ever could do this on every single play like he does.