Your thoughts on future of stealth if Managed payments fails for years or forever?

[sugarlaces]

Sincere condolences to all those who are adversely affected. I am still to be invited and upon reading the posts last few days it is a time bomb waiting to happen. All the hardworking and nurturing those accounts like babies for years going into the bin soon.
So what is the longevity plan?

Start up brand new stealth right now starting at zero and build your way up again only to know the invites coming again at some point?
Create real accounts in company names or request family friends who are not on any Ebay suspension list.
Sit it out till Mp is compulsory from the start and by then hope the account sellers have it figured out.
Or in an ideal world will ebay relax it as soon as they see they are losing millions of revenue by closing all these accounts?
Wishful thinking.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by sugarlaces

Start up brand new stealth right now starting at zero and build your way up again only to know the invites coming again at some point?

Sit it out till Mp is compulsory from the start and by then hope the account sellers have it figured out.

These 2 still seem viable options - only time will tell :(

[Ryanshadrach]

Getting to the point now where I am considering whether this is even worth it! The guy I brought accounts off, told me that its easy just send the documents and no one on the forum knows what there talking about, now its obviously come to light that it isn't the case at all, and that they accept the documents and ban you after. If they are credit checking I don't see how stealth's survive

[phaz0rz]

There's always a way around.

They seem to be trying to shake their reputation as the platform that offers infinite forgiveness to counterfeiters by allowing them to just start over with a new account. Counterfeiters and other fraudsters have finally bullied eBay into doing some kind of verification on the people they allow to sell.

All this means is that instead of using purely "stealth" accounts those who wish to sell on multiple accounts will probably have to take the legal route by forming companies and then opening accounts for them.

[phaz0rz]

As far as I'm aware it doesn't matter if multiple companies are run by the same person in USA MP. As long as the companies are different entities with their own tax ID's logic says they won't be linkable.

I really don't know and I'm not offering advice here. We'll see how it plays out.

[agent006140]

be nice to your mother in law

[aslam]

I dont see its impossible to pass MP. We have to just figure it out what happen after they accept the document. I don't think they do credit check I believe this is happening at the time of refunds because ebay manage payment now deduct all fees from your balance and rest send it to your account every day,week, or month but if your balance is low and there is refund then it seems like they hit your bank account and that point something happen.

Its worth make few stealth accounts and feed them to ebay and show how ebay kill them need some research.

[sareen101]

Originally Posted by aslam

I dont see its impossible to pass MP. We have to just figure it out what happen after they accept the document. I don't think they do credit check I believe this is happening at the time of refunds because ebay manage payment now deduct all fees from your balance and rest send it to your account every day,week, or month but if your balance is low and there is refund then it seems like they hit your bank account and that point something happen.

Its worth make few stealth accounts and feed them to ebay and show how ebay kill them need some research.

You are getting this wrong, accounts are being killed before they even go on to managed payments, no refunds are taking place. It is either a soft credit check is happening or somehow they are manually checking the ID and finding out these are ****.

[sugarlaces]

Originally Posted by Bigblackdog

The first difficulty here is Companies House and Ebay wanting directors details

Does the director have to be a clean real name not used on ebay and not my own as been suspended years back?

[aslam]

Originally Posted by sareen101

You are getting this wrong, accounts are being killed before they even go on to managed payments, no refunds are taking place. It is either a soft credit check is happening or somehow they are manually checking the ID and finding out these are ****.

I heard some account killed after accepted for MP and being live for month or so then suddenly toasted. Checking documents manually is impossible as there are million of id's not possible also credit check every id is time consuming, note that its AI boat flag the accounts and after that they may do some manual checks? but how AI boat is able to flag the accounts this is the question to find the answer.

[LOMBOK]

Originally Posted by sugarlaces

Does the director have to be a clean real name not used on ebay and not my own as been suspended years back?

Suspended years back is the interesting part.

I was suspended a good few years ago and opened a new account last year which is running fine. I have moved house since I was banned, so it's a new address only. PP never had my passport either, only my D/L, so that's what was used with them. I haven't even had an invite to MP on that account yet so can't say whether this will work out long term, but hope it does.

[nyc]

Stealth accounts will work for some time but once eb invites you to enroll and then gives you an activate date but never activates it, expect to lose your account.

[sareen101]

Originally Posted by aslam

I heard some account killed after accepted for MP and being live for month or so then suddenly toasted. Checking documents manually is impossible as there are million of id's not possible also credit check every id is time consuming, note that its AI boat flag the accounts and after that they may do some manual checks? but how AI boat is able to flag the accounts this is the question to find the answer.

These accounts had been 'accepted' but not moved on to managed payments yet. But instead ebay delayed the move to managed payments for these accounts as I guess they were doing 'extra' checks.

[sugarlaces]

Originally Posted by LOMBOK

Suspended years back is the interesting part.

I was suspended a good few years ago and opened a new account last year which is running fine. I have moved house since I was banned, so it's a new address only. PP never had my passport either, only my D/L, so that's what was used with them. I haven't even had an invite to MP on that account yet so can't say whether this will work out long term, but hope it does.

I was on my second PayPal same name, address, dob for over 13 years on 2003 registered ebay account. PP never asked for id it was electoral checked at time but with ebay after you get mc011 and submit all docs they do have real id if that has to produced again to them for managed payments that's if successful creating a new account whether it personal or as a director to ltd co.

[ethinoze]

Im still yet to be invited. Dont know if it's a food or bad thing