Mass account creation speed question

[sam999]

So I've never actually done a "mass account" creation before but I feel it's time I should in case ebay introduce facial recognition or something awfully hard to navigate.


When people say "I created 100 accounts last week" are they using nonsense details like hitting random keys that are fast to enter and updating them to real details later on to save on time?

Does the email address even need to be real at this point either, eg sdgfkj@gmail.com (for example) to save time ?

Does updating to real details later cause any red flags, does it need to be managed in a special way, eg no activity on account for 1 week after update of details?


Thanks

[vesania]

Originally Posted by sam999

So I've never actually done a "mass account" creation before but I feel it's time I should in case ebay introduce facial recognition or something awfully hard to navigate.


When people say "I created 100 accounts last week" are they using nonsense details like hitting random keys that are fast to enter and updating them to real details later on to save on time?

Does the email address even need to be real at this point either, eg sdgfkj@gmail.com (for example) to save time ?

Does updating to real details later cause any red flags, does it need to be managed in a special way, eg no activity on account for 1 week after update of details?


Thanks

I don't know the account creation in UK. But I pull info off the ⊗⊗⊗⊗namegenerator and modify it a bit.

I pull the username as the email and maybe add a few numbers to it. I don't create any of the gmail accounts until I am ready to start selling on them.

I use the name off of it as well as the password on there with modifications to it.

That is pretty much all you need to register in the USA. Once I decide to turn it into the seller, that is when I use truepeoplesearch to find and name and address of the person and just modify the numbers on there to get it close to it as possible.

Obviously when they ask for ID and all that when you make a sale. THat is when I change name to my own to match the DOB and SSN.

Never had issues with that since eBay implemented Adyen.

[sam999]

Thanks that's helpful


"Once I decide to turn it into the seller, that is when I use truepeoplesearch to find and name and address of the person and just modify the numbers on there to get it close to it as possible."

I'm confused, truepeoplesearch doesn't give you DOB which is needed? And what do you mean "modify the numbers to get it close as possible" ?

"Obviously when they ask for ID and all that when you make a sale. THat is when I change name to my own to match the DOB and SSN."

I might be misunderstanding - Do you mean you use the account and sell in someone else's details until ebay ask for ID or a restriction?

[vesania]

Originally Posted by sam999

Thanks that's helpful


"Once I decide to turn it into the seller, that is when I use truepeoplesearch to find and name and address of the person and just modify the numbers on there to get it close to it as possible."

I'm confused, truepeoplesearch doesn't give you DOB which is needed? And what do you mean "modify the numbers to get it close as possible" ?

"Obviously when they ask for ID and all that when you make a sale. THat is when I change name to my own to match the DOB and SSN."

I might be misunderstanding - Do you mean you use the account and sell in someone else's details until ebay ask for ID or a restriction?

On USA when you turn it into a seller, they ask for address and phone.

What I mean by modify numbers is when their address is 7134 Helms Rd

I do either 7139 helms rd or 7137 helms rd.

Anything where the digits are 2 or 1 off from the actual address. I tested that with my own whenever I get verification questions. They still work for that.

When I sell, the details are under the name and address of that person, nothing else. WHen a sale happens and you need to add your details.

I change the name to mine and SSN. Everything else is left as is. Never had issues with verification or anything of that sort for years.

Even when they ask for ID, I upload my personal one where address doesn't match. It still gets verified by the AI bot.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by vesania

On USA when you turn it into a seller, they ask for address and phone.

What I mean by modify numbers is when their address is 7134 Helms Rd

I do either 7139 helms rd or 7137 helms rd.

Anything where the digits are 2 or 1 off from the actual address. I tested that with my own whenever I get verification questions. They still work for that.

That's right on - the platform allows for slight address variance because it seems to allow small variant error...

[sam999]

Originally Posted by vesania

On USA when you turn it into a seller, they ask for address and phone.

What I mean by modify numbers is when their address is 7134 Helms Rd

I do either 7139 helms rd or 7137 helms rd.

Anything where the digits are 2 or 1 off from the actual address. I tested that with my own whenever I get verification questions. They still work for that.

When I sell, the details are under the name and address of that person, nothing else. WHen a sale happens and you need to add your details.

I change the name to mine and SSN. Everything else is left as is. Never had issues with verification or anything of that sort for years.

Even when they ask for ID, I upload my personal one where address doesn't match. It still gets verified by the AI bot.

Interesting, this sounds like a completely different system to the UK.
I don't *think* slight variance on address is allowed, I'm pretty sure I made a mistake once with address once by a digit or so and it failed. Maybe someone else in the UK can confirm this?

In the UK system you have to onboard with name address and DOB at the time of first listing which is credit database checked.
I'm amazed you can still run mismatched name and addresses in the US.

[yobar]

With that process that you follow since the implementation of Adyen, what is the percentage of active accounts after the first month?

[murdered_by_ebay]

Originally Posted by sam999

Interesting, this sounds like a completely different system to the UK.
I don't *think* slight variance on address is allowed, I'm pretty sure I made a mistake once with address once by a digit or so and it failed. Maybe someone else in the UK can confirm this?

In the UK system you have to onboard with name address and DOB at the time of first listing which is credit database checked.
I'm amazed you can still run mismatched name and addresses in the US.

in the US they do SSN check so name + DOB + SSN are checked , address does not matter , name is probably allowed to have slight variations

in the UK you would not pass verification if address or name have errors

[vesania]

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay

in the US they do SSN check so name + DOB + SSN are checked , address does not matter , name is probably allowed to have slight variations

in the UK you would not pass verification if address or name have errors

Makes sense, might be more strict. I know that little variation trick doesn't work for let say applying for credit card, loan, lease, etc.

I tried doing a variation of my address and name when opening up a new line for straight talk. They said they couldn't verify the info.

So can imagine UK would be something of that sort.

[murdered_by_ebay]

Originally Posted by vesania

Makes sense, might be more strict. I know that little variation trick doesn't work for let say applying for credit card, loan, lease, etc.

I tried doing a variation of my address and name when opening up a new line for straight talk. They said they couldn't verify the info.

So can imagine UK would be something of that sort.

yes ebay uk are very strict now , they now verify personal details within seconds , it is sufficient to change personal details to those that can not be verified online and you get a red banner within a few minutes

[StealthHarry]

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay

yes ebay uk are very strict now , they now verify personal details within seconds , it is sufficient to change personal details to those that can not be verified online and you get a red banner within a few minutes

I’m thinking of doing the same thing creating a bunch of accounts seeing if they stay up.

Do you use IP or data tethering dongle?

[murdered_by_ebay]

Originally Posted by StealthHarry

I’m thinking of doing the same thing creating a bunch of accounts seeing if they stay up.

Do you use IP or data tethering dongle?

you use what millions of other people use , any such provider will do

[rsot]

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay

in the US they do SSN check so name + DOB + SSN are checked , address does not matter , name is probably allowed to have slight variations

in the UK you would not pass verification if address or name have errors

good clarification on difference of platform verification...

[sam999]

Originally Posted by vesania

I don't know the account creation in UK. But I pull info off the ⊗⊗⊗⊗namegenerator and modify it a bit.

I pull the username as the email and maybe add a few numbers to it. I don't create any of the gmail accounts until I am ready to start selling on them.

I use the name off of it as well as the password on there with modifications to it.

That is pretty much all you need to register in the USA. Once I decide to turn it into the seller, that is when I use truepeoplesearch to find and name and address of the person and just modify the numbers on there to get it close to it as possible.

Obviously when they ask for ID and all that when you make a sale. THat is when I change name to my own to match the DOB and SSN.

Never had issues with that since eBay implemented Adyen.

Just wanted to ask one thing - with the email are you entering a gmail that you hope doesn't already exist when creating the account and then creating that gmail later on?

[vesania]

Originally Posted by sam999

Just wanted to ask one thing - with the email are you entering a gmail that you hope doesn't already exist when creating the account and then creating that gmail later on?

If the gmail already exists on the platform, then it should block you from creating and asking you to sign in instead.

With Gmails, I usually use their first and last name along with a string of numbers.

Like BobGarley19384. Very low chance of that gmail being taken. There may be a couple of times where the gmail is taken, I still use the account despite that. I just check messages from time to time on inkfrog.

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by sam999

So I've never actually done a "mass account" creation before but I feel it's time I should in case ebay introduce facial recognition or something awfully hard to navigate.


When people say "I created 100 accounts last week" are they using nonsense details like hitting random keys that are fast to enter and updating them to real details later on to save on time?

Does the email address even need to be real at this point either, eg sdgfkj@gmail.com (for example) to save time ?

Does updating to real details later cause any red flags, does it need to be managed in a special way, eg no activity on account for 1 week after update of details?


Thanks

I don't like doing things "random", I'd rather take my time, create less accounts but with quality.

Some people used to buy gmail accounts and I wouldn't even do that, those accounts got suspended.

But yes you should make a ton of stealth accounts now. maybe 3-10/day the next 4 weeks?

[sam999]

Originally Posted by vesania

If the gmail already exists on the platform, then it should block you from creating and asking you to sign in instead.

With Gmails, I usually use their first and last name along with a string of numbers.

Like BobGarley19384. Very low chance of that gmail being taken. There may be a couple of times where the gmail is taken, I still use the account despite that. I just check messages from time to time on inkfrog.

Thanks, so I think you're saying yes; (you type a random gmail for ebay and then create that gmail whenever the time comes to using that account) ?

I'm just asking to check it won't cause issues with email login verification months later but I think that will be fine as long as the gmail is new and can be created.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by sam999

Just wanted to ask one thing - with the email are you entering a gmail that you hope doesn't already exist when creating the account and then creating that gmail later on?

why would you not have access to the gmal rather than playing with random fire/

[SaiJin]

Originally Posted by sam999

Thanks, so I think you're saying yes; (you type a random gmail for ebay and then create that gmail whenever the time comes to using that account) ?

I'm just asking to check it won't cause issues with email login verification months later but I think that will be fine as long as the gmail is new and can be created.

I still wouldn't just type gibberish like "oihwfkw;em" .

I'd use a combo of the eBay account name on the email. Easier for you to read too right?

[rswomA]

Originally Posted by sam999

Thanks, so I think you're saying yes; (you type a random gmail for ebay and then create that gmail whenever the time comes to using that account) ?

I'm just asking to check it won't cause issues with email login verification months later but I think that will be fine as long as the gmail is new and can be created.

You can edit it later since it's not confirmed. The phone number is the key