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Hi there, I was just suspended from eBay selling due to DSR's (after six years, 99% feedback yadda yadda...had two people leave low ratings because they bought cell phones that weren't compatible with their carrier and now I'm banned, MC999). I'm sure a lot of members have far worse stories, so I'm not asking for sympathy haha, I'm just SO glad to have found this forum! I was absolutely flipping out as it is my only source of income and I am paying my way through grad school right now so bills, bills, bills. It looks like there is, after all, hope thanks to you guys. This may be very long I apologize, I am new to all of this. I just bought Stealth but don't want to rush in and mess anything up, I wanted to check with some experts first.

I may have lucked out: my girlfriend has had an eBay buying account since 2006 or so that she never uses and said I can use. She has a verified PP account with it thought she's never really used it. What I am planning on doing (please correct me if I am in error) is having her set up her selling account up with all of her info (her phone number, credit bureau questions, etc). From what I've read I think it may have a $5K limit for the first few months, not sure...shouldn't be a huge issue anyway, I can live with that though not ideal. I'm not going to list a ton the first month or two anyway as to not raise suspicion. Then I am going to link a new checking account with her existing PP account so I can withdraw money from items sold. At first I am going to send all items from her name and address (she lives in a different city but I'm there quite a bit so I can make this work), and in a month or so I am going to get a UPS box and send my items from that address. All will be done from a new IP address (the only thing I am worried about is that we both logged in from her IP before my account was suspended...is that a problem?). The nice thing is that she can submit her ID and confirm that it is actually her account with legit info, if need be. So it's essentially just her account linked to my bank account, being accessed from a different location, this should work right?

One other factor: buying via eBay is another huge part of my business...I have two credit cards linked to my suspended account, and buying with credit is very important to me, so I would like to continue buying with this account if possible (only selling was suspended). As long as I access these two accounts from different IP addresses, and have no shared info between accounts, there should be no problem right? So it will be a cycle between buying with my suspended account, having it shipped to one address, selling it from another account on different IP and shipping form my UPS address (or my girlfriend's address at first). Then moving money back to my buying account and repeat. I will even attempt to make my pictures/auctions look different than my old account, though I don't know if this is necessary.

I would really appreciate if someone would poke holes in this or tell me if it sounds okay. If I'm being completely redundant and need to search, please yell at me! This is a bit different than most stealth accounts as it is mostly legit info, so I thought I'd type my specific info, thanks so much in advance!
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Welcome to the forums. Your post is nice but a little heavy on the eyes, written diarrhea-wise ha.

With regards to buyer's accounts, you should be fine with different IP - those are "generally" not too bothersome to eb ay in terms of the old ban stick.

With regards to holes in the scenario, I would never recommend using your gf's info because of possibility of getting hit with limitation and asking for ID, etc. If she's ok with that then go for it. Otherwise, if you read around the forums here, it's pretty easy to set up new fresh STEALTH accounts and building them up.

Your bank account linking should be ok. Make sure to keep things clean and separate
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If you decide to go stealth some of the basics are:
-New IP address for each stealth accounts
- Start selling slowly
- Make sure your stealth ebay and paypal info matches
- Dont attach more than 2 ebay accounts to one paypal account
- New pictures ideally for each new account
- Seperate user accounts for each stealth account
there are also many more steps which are discussed all around the forum, alternatively you could buy the Stealth Book
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Haha, yeah sorry for the length of my post...I have to resist the urge to ramble. My girlfriend isn't crazy about submitting her SSN or other identity verification to an unknown third party but is willing to if need be. The only thing I'm worried about is taxes. I'm thinking as long as I keep the account under 200 transactions it shouldn't be a problem (I'm paying taxes on it, but I don't HER to be taxed for it...that would be kind of a mess). I'm thinking about starting two stealth accounts out slowly and using her legit account to make money while they "mature" a bit.

I guess the only thing I'm worried about is getting limited as I can't really afford to have money held (even just $500 or so) for 180 days like many of you seem to be able to. That's my only real concern with all of this. Thanks for all the help! I've been studying all of this stuff for the last five days straight, a lot to take in.
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Default Pre-2007 Merchant Account Setup

One more thing guys: my girlfriend's account is a pre Nov 2007 account and I have read with that a merchant account can be set up without faxing docs to eBay. I would definitely like to do an Authorize.net merchant account to reduce my reliance on PP but I don't want to screw anything up. Does the entire merchant account have to be using my gf's info? If I don't have to fax in documents, what information does eBay see/require from the third party account? If I set up a merch account in my name (and SSN) can eBay link my accounts through that? Might be a dumb question... Thanks!
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True point on the use of merchant account for pre-07 account. The merchant info does not have to be on gf name - you won't be linked on that unless a do-gooder buyer reports you (because when the buyer gets the info of the merchant, it will be a different name - most people have no problems but you never know - people still tend to rely on pa yp al...but i forget if authorize.net accepts pa yp al payments?)
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One more quick question: she has three or four different addresses linked to Paypal as she has moved quite a bit...should I make sure I register her eBay selling account to the address on her driver's license to avoid any complications down the road? I just ask as I will be shipping from a different address and don't know if I should register the shipping address or the home address on her license. Thanks for all your help!
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Addy on license being diff. isnt a big deal. I would recommend however not using her name if your worried about taxes and shes already worried about ssn and im sure is concerned. If youre moving a ton of product through the account you will need more than one to do that to start out anyway.

My 2 cents if your selling something totally legit and its important to you make a LLC or do the DBA thing. Easier and lets face it girlfriends are girlfriends...might not be together forever or god forbid shes nuts and screws up your account and its a goldmine and takes your cash lol not saying this is gonna happen but think smart and dont let problems you could have avoided from the start creep up on you.

If your going to do it do it right is all im saying. good luck
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