Trying again but want to be smarter/stealthier this time. Have some questions.

itsjappo · #1 07-19-2011

Hi guys,

I'm new to the forum but here's my history. I have been dealing with ebay/paypal for like 10yrs. Have many experiences with losing both eb/pp accounts due to many different reasons. Always just tried to use a friend or relative's info to create a new one. Through time, they have all gone locked up too. I have tried using name variations, different ip, bank accounts etc. I never juggled more than 3 accounts though but those are all 3 different legit people (relative/friend, etc).

Recently, my main and real personal ebay/paypal that I recreated about 2yrs ago got locked up. In search of getting back on (running out of people to use a new account for and don't want to involve them anymore), I found this forum and have bought and read the stealth guide. I want to get back on this time smarter and stealthier than ever and without involving family or friends.

My plan this time around is to follow the stealth guide fully as I have been doing some of those things before but not all of it. Probably why I keep getting suspended.

Some things I'm confused about that I want to make sure I understand before trying it again. Want to do it better and smarter this time around.

1) Names for ebay and paypal. I can really use any name? What I have done before was just a variation of my name which was still legit. (always using my real last name). I noticed here that most really change the whole name. That's ok? Or should I just think of clever ways to mix my name up? Only for paypal/ebay account registration of course.

2) As far as address goes, I don't and can't use anymore relatives/friends since I've used them all up for the most part. Any recommendations that's proven to work? Just want to know what option to look into that's best.

3) What's the main need of a prepaid credit card for paypal? When entering a legit bank account, you have a debit card to use for entering on there for a credit card. Is it for safety reasons or something?

4) How do you guys provide docs for those stealth names. Just supply them?

5) The people not wanting to provide SSN (I can't anyway, did it on my limited pp), have any problems with limitation just doing 2 of the 3 steps for lifting limits? I don't want to go to EIN route because don't wanna do DBA just yet. I always provided SSN of the persons I used. What a bad idea

6) Buying ebay/pp account from the vendors here. They sell verified and confirmed accounts but my question is that what if the account you bought is more than 100 miles from you. Would it matter? Won't the IP show where you are using the account don't make sense?

I know there's alot more questions I'll have and I'm sorry to post such a long thread but I really want to get back on again quickly to start making money. It's my only source of income and I need to make sure I do things correctly this time around. Thanks for all your help guys.

rsot · #2 07-19-2011

Welcome to the forums. Quite a long thread with q's but I will see what I can do.

1. You can "really" use any name. Just have to operate wisely and if you get asked for documentation...well you back that up.
2. P.O Boxes, variations of real addresses, etc.
3. Prepaid cc allows for higher receiving limits - confirmation.
4. Each person has their own ways and connections.
5. No real comment as I lack experience with this.
6. People have operate accounts that are far from them - I prefer to have similar IP but if not, you can go slow and hope for the best.

All the best.

itsjappo · #3 07-19-2011

Thanks for the reply rsot. I guess I'm more concerned on proving the identity when ebay and paypal requests for it. I always used real people I know or a variation of my name before so they were all legit. Name, address, phone numbers, ssn where all real.

If anyone can help me with how you guys do it in order to prepare for when the time comes, I'm pretty much ready to start creating stealth accounts. The creating of the account should be no problem. Make name, find address, create and link account, get prepaid card to lift limits, forward phone, etc. It's getting passed the screenings that kinda worries me. Please help! Thanks

KingRay · #4 07-19-2011

I think you would be better of just coasing through the forums for a few days/weeks and cram all this in. Then go from there. You can see what has and hasnt worked for people. That is the best way to learn in my opinion.

If you are a business then if it were me I would just get teh LLC and creat an EIN for it. Then you can start up fresh so to speak.

The problem I see is that you are eventually getting low dsr's ,etc and these all end up getting suspended.

That is a problem I feel you need to work out prior to creating any new accounts or you will just be redoing accounts every time you get suspended.

suspensions are easy to avoid if you dont sell VERO items or piss customers off.

itsjappo · #5 07-19-2011

King,

You are right. I have been on the forums alot reading and also asking questions. Its the only way to learn to be better.

As far as the old account. Got shut down because of vero and ebay stating it was a security risk. Even if it was over 600 feedback 100% positive.

Of course, this time around, I will try to not raise any flags by reading and doing things that has worked for the members on here.

I think I'm ready to start a new one soon. Just preparing myself for getting passed the expected roadblocks as a new account. Trying to get advice on what to do and not to do. Thanks and keep posts coming=)