MC081 suspension questions

farvardeen · #1 06-21-2012

I bought 2 stealth account from a verified seller here on the forums.
I should mention i also have two other ebay accounts i opened myself and i havent had any problems yet (these accounts have the standard 10 item/500 limit) however one of these accounts was a friend of mines and the other i bought an item with PRIOR to listing anything.

For each account i have a new windows user made and a new ip generated as instructed by the stealth manual.

Stealth accounts
The 1st one i had was operational (had SSN and everything), i used it for a week or so and the only problem i had was with paypal holding the money for a few days before clearing it. (registered in Ireland,paypal in illinois, and i'm located in tn). I made a mistake of listing too many items and one day they simply cancelled my listings and asked for more information about the account.

The 2nd account (The ebay account is registered in Ireland, the paypal account is registered in florida and i am located in Tennessee. ), it didnt have a ssn number but was bank verified. this time I listed ONE item and within a few days I got the MC081 message stating that they need more information on my accounts, this was the same day that the account above got the MC099 suspension)

I need to know if there is anything else i'm missing on my understanding of how they are tracking these accounts. If i'm doing something wrong why haven't my other accounts been affected? the person i bought the account from believe i should do a complete computer format and buy at least one item before listing AND list a maximum of 2 items at a time.

SUVE · #2 06-21-2012

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I need to know if there is anything else i'm missing on my understanding of how they are tracking these accounts.

I can see some serious red flags here.

These two 'stealth' EB/PP A/C you refer to as detailed above - these are the ones you've created right ???

farvardeen · #3 06-21-2012

no the ones i created are working fine.
The stealth ones are the ones i bought and they have the varying addresses as described above

SUVE · #4 06-21-2012

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Originally Posted by farvardeen

no the ones i created are working fine.
The stealth ones are the ones i bought and they have the varying addresses as described above

I would have sought help & support from your seller. I would have kept the addresses the same for both EB/PP A/C.

You say you have created two EB/PP A/C which are running well, that tells me you have some idea how to go about this. I'd spend more time here now & again to better hone that knowledge base.

MM78 · #5 06-21-2012

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Originally Posted by farvardeen

(The ebay account is registered in Ireland, the PayPal account is registered in Florida and i am located in Tennessee. )

You may need to speak to the person who sold you the account and figure out why the Ebay account is registered in Ireland and Paypal in Florida.

Seems to me that would raise some serious flags. I've had accounts in different States and had zero problems but I usually took it slow and built up feedback until I was ready to sell my main products. Different States isn't a problem, different Country...might be.

farvardeen · #6 06-21-2012

yeah thats what i figured too. i understand why my first account got banned (64 item in a week yeah pretty stupid

the second stealth account is a puzzle though, i had only one item.
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The seller said that no one else has had problems, and he is getting me a replacement account, i just want to make sure i'm taking every precaution before i use the other account
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I got the new windows user, new ip, new bank account, new verified card and i'm gonna buy something first before listing anything

SUVE · #7 06-21-2012

64 listings in one week is OVERKILL !!!!

List one or two items NON VeRO NON- brand, low value items, sell them, then list the next lot one or two after these sell & go slow like this for a two-three month period or so.

The best precaution you can take is learn as much as you can from the forums.....

farvardeen · #8 06-21-2012

you see the messed up thing is that on that 1st account i listed the 64 items, i sold 8 (i had a bunch of 99 cent auctions)
I got positive feedback from all of them and they still banned the account :D

MM78 · #9 06-21-2012

@farvardeen, they banned ya because of the 64 items in 1 shot. You gotta start out slow.

Were you careful with changing up IP addresses when switching between accounts?

farvardeen · #10 06-21-2012

yes i know the 64 items was a big hint.
i'm trying a replacement stealth account the seller sold me.
This time i changed windows user name, registered owner, the volume serial number of hard drive and optic drive (yes the seller said i should) cleared the mounted drive in the registry, the new ip.

This is what is messing me up, the stealth manual never mentioned anything this involved

MM78 · #11 06-21-2012

The Stealth Book is a starting guide, The deeper stuff is here on the forum. Unfortunately the book can't cover every angle but does help get going again.

Even when I did join the forum I still messed up 2 separate stealth accounts, it's all a learning curve.

GREEN LION · #12 06-22-2012

on my new accounts (1 day old) 100 item limit,i listed about 100 items(very cheap,unbranded items) never had any problem.

Elijah · #13 06-22-2012

Same here. These days I list about 50 auctions for generic goods a day on brand new accounts (which goes against what 99.9% will tell you, I know) and don't have any problem as long as the PayPal account is activated... the one time that I listed and had an unactivated PayPal I got the request for more information from eBay and suspension. A few hours later I had made a new account with activated PayPal and it all went swimmingly.

GreenBean · #14 06-22-2012

There's some serious problems with what you have.

Send me a pm to explain further.

farvardeen · #15 06-22-2012

i see so the number of items shouldnt be a problem? you see apparently European Ebay new accounts dont have any restrictions (no # or amount limits) unlike the US ebay. so i understand the method. Now with the first account paypal from the get go held all the payments i received until the item was delivered to the costumer. After around 5-6 days ebay issued the "temporary selling limit", on the same day paypal asked me to submit more information on the 8 sales i had and they limited the account, i sent in the paperwork they requested and paypal lifted the limit on the account; however, EBAY asked for the same information, after i sent it in, the account was permanently banned. lol :D
im puzzled :S

GREEN LION · #16 06-22-2012

@farvardin

was it branded/high value items you was selling?

farvardeen · #17 06-22-2012

Yes, i sell exotic car parts

GREEN LION · #18 06-22-2012

so that's explains why ebay banned you.

i wouldn't sell something like that on a new account.

i would wait till my account is at least 3 months old & over 100 seller feedback.

farvardeen · #19 06-22-2012

i know thats why i have some personal accounts i made that are just aging

my problem is not that i cant sell, its just that all the accounts have that initial selling limit. Not even $5000 will help me move the expensive merchandise, I mean it would definitely help with the cheap stuff but not with the main items, thats why i settled for a no limit account

GreenBean · #20 06-22-2012

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Originally Posted by farvardeen

i know thats why i have some personal accounts i made that are just aging

my problem is not that i cant sell, its just that all the accounts have that initial selling limit. Not even $5000 will help me move the expensive merchandise, I mean it would definitely help with the cheap stuff but not with the main items, thats why i settled for a no limit account

there is no such thing as a no limit account.

It is better to operate on the premise that ebay will restrict an account.

Mr. Invisible · #21 06-23-2012

A no limit account is not a free license to go buck wild selling expensive merchandise.

The account has no/limited selling history! There is no fast way to sell expensive goods on ebay with a new account. Those days are LONG gone. You have to build history selling items of that value and even then you're not safe.

I sell items up to $1200, but there is no way I'm doing multiple sales @ that value or anywhere close on the same account in the same month in the categories I sell in.

Spread your sales, sell 1 or 2 per month per account and grow slowly from there while providing top notch customer service.

mjcook7783 · #22 06-23-2012

Oh dear