Opening a new account on different address with new bank,new cc

[davidbeckham2012]

I wondering if someone can tell me.

Now on my home address,previously years back, i had an account which was suspended due to some bollocks, and then i made other accounts which were then suspended as they got linked (i was young and naive!).

Does that mean my home address is blacklisted?
or does it mean only my name on that address is blacklisted?

If i was to open a new account on a relatives name at the same address (this time selling genuine goods), would i be ok?

Also, if i were to register a new credit card, new bank account on a completely different address, ie in London, would that be ok?

I know obviously they would ask for further ID like photo id, and a picture of yourself with the product, and supplier invoice etc.

[deebee80]

No mate, the address would be blacklisted use another one.

New bank account and card on another address should be fine.

If you have given them your identity before it's a bit suspect.. so you might need to use a name variation or something similar.. best read the ebay Stealth Book if you have not.

[Ebayorbust]

You cannot re-use the same name and address that got you suspended or ebay will pull out the old bollox (and probably slap you about the face with them).

If this account was suspended years ago, a new name and dob with the old address should be okay.

I know you only mentioned address but do NOT be tempted to opening bank accounts with ficticious details. The fraud squad has bigger bollox than ebay.

[davidbeckham2012]

hi, yes

i think my home address is no good to use,but i do want to do something legitimate if i can,

Its been about 5 years since those accounts were banned, i wish to open a new account in which ill be selling legitimate small electronics non branded goods which i have sourced from china.

i plan to do the following

1. open a new bank account on a completely new business address (should i open under my own real name or as a business?)

2. get a new credit card on that new business address.

3. new computer, new internet connection, router, change of IP.

Is this ok for me to do? since i will be selling non branded and a very niche market of goods, will i be ok?

If ebay and paypal asks for proof of name and photo id, i can provide my passport scan, and a credit card statement or bank statement on that business address.

I can't show my driving licence as that would still be on my home address.

But if ebay or paypal ask for supplier invoices (which i assume they do after a while), what do I do?
Or do you think its best to just go completely stealth?

I will be selling legitimate goods which arent big brands or anything so i dont see why they would give me any problems if signed up legitimately on a new address.

[davidbeckham2012]

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust

You cannot re-use the same name and address that got you suspended or ebay will pull out the old bollox (and probably slap you about the face with them).

If this account was suspended years ago, a new name and dob with the old address should be okay.

I know you only mentioned address but do NOT be tempted to opening bank accounts with ficticious details. The fraud squad has bigger bollox than ebay.

i never faxed or gave them my id back then.

if address is blacklisted, does my name actually get blacklisted too?

so even if use my own name on a different address, they would blacklist me there too?

even though the address, bank and cc info is on a new address?

[davidbeckham2012]

Originally Posted by deebee80

No mate, the address would be blacklisted use another one.

New bank account and card on another address should be fine.

If you have given them your identity before it's a bit suspect.. so you might need to use a name variation or something similar.. best read the ebay Stealth Book if you have not.

hi thanks

ok, so if i open a new bank account on a new address (ive got access to this address to collect any letters etc)

and put this accounts sort code/account number when i make my new ebay account, and also into paypal.

paypal and ebay can't check the address of my bank account?

[Bunneh]

Originally Posted by davidbeckham2012

hi thanks

ok, so if i open a new bank account on a new address (ive got access to this address to collect any letters etc)

and put this accounts sort code/account number when i make my new ebay account, and also into paypal.

paypal and ebay can't check the address of my bank account?

Which bank are you planning to bank with?

[davidbeckham2012]

im not sure, i would like to setup with any bank that i can widthdraw to that doesn't have a problem with mispelt names.

i already have banks with hsbc and natwest


I will be selling legitimate small items, so do you think i should register on my real name if on that new address? so if they ever asked for id, i could show real id if needed.

or do you think its not worth the hassle and risk?

[Bunneh]

Originally Posted by davidbeckham2012

im not sure, i would like to setup with any bank that i can widthdraw to that doesn't have a problem with mispelt names.

i already have banks with hsbc and natwest


I will be selling legitimate small items, so do you think i should register on my real name if on that new address? so if they ever asked for id, i could show real id if needed.

or do you think its not worth the hassle and risk?

If you registered yourself like this for example :

Jane smith
21 high street
BE1 10D

date of birth : 8 jan 1900

Then you cannot use those details together ever again.

You can use the same name again, if it is a common as the one in the example above, but you would need to use a different address and different date of birth.

If you are ever required to submit documents, you would need to think outside the box on that.

HSBC & Natwest are fine for stealth, as the bank does not share information. Stay away from lloyds.

[davidbeckham2012]

Originally Posted by Bunneh

If you registered yourself like this for example :

Jane smith
21 high street
BE1 10D

date of birth : 8 jan 1900

Then you cannot use those details together ever again.

You can use the same name again, if it is a common as the one in the example above, but you would need to use a different address and different date of birth.

If you are ever required to submit documents, you would need to think outside the box on that.

HSBC & Natwest are fine for stealth, as the bank does not share information. Stay away from lloyds.

well when i got suspended i never put my real date of birth in there.

so if i open a new account with my real name, new address and new bank account, virtual cc or 3v card i should be ok?

if ebay or paypal ever ask for id, commonly what things would they ask for?

would it be a passport, driving licence or bank statement?

ive read ebay ask for a picture of you selling your product? is this actually true?

i dont mind giving some id, as long as its not too detailed, since im trying to do everything legitimately.

once im selling, i doubt i should get any problems as im selling small niche items and not branded stuff.

[Bunneh]

Originally Posted by davidbeckham2012

well when i got suspended i never put my real date of birth in there.

so if i open a new account with my real name, new address and new bank account, virtual cc or 3v card i should be ok?

if ebay or paypal ever ask for id, commonly what things would they ask for?

would it be a passport, driving licence or bank statement?

ive read ebay ask for a picture of you selling your product? is this actually true?

i dont mind giving some id, as long as its not too detailed, since im trying to do everything legitimately.

once im selling, i doubt i should get any problems as im selling small niche items and not branded stuff.

Ebay will ask for a utility bill and passport/drivers license.
Some new accounts also get asked for a photo of the items you were selling (at the time of the suspension) to prove you have the items in your possession.

You can get an entropay account which is a prepaid visa credit card.
You can create virtually an unlimited amount of cards on one entropay account.
You register the entropay account in your real details, as you will find randomly they will want to ID check you, however information is not shared with ebay/paypal, which is why it is good with stealth.

You do not need a new computer, just a fresh windows user account that is solely used for your current e bay account/ pay pal account to avoid linking.

You IP address has to be different from your suspended IP address which is why most people use 3g dongles or get a router which changes your IP address every time you switch it on and off.

I would not sell electronics to start off with, I would sell random stuff you have around your house that you no longer need, then once you have a few feedback you can start selling the electronics.
As most electronics are seen as a high risk item to list.

[davidbeckham2012]

Originally Posted by Bunneh

Ebay will ask for a utility bill and passport/drivers license.
Some new accounts also get asked for a photo of the items you were selling (at the time of the suspension) to prove you have the items in your possession.

You can get an entropay account which is a prepaid visa credit card.
You can create virtually an unlimited amount of cards on one entropay account.
You register the entropay account in your real details, as you will find randomly they will want to ID check you, however information is not shared with ebay/paypal, which is why it is good with stealth.

You do not need a new computer, just a fresh windows user account that is solely used for your current e bay account/ pay pal account to avoid linking.

You IP address has to be different from your suspended IP address which is why most people use 3g dongles or get a router which changes your IP address every time you switch it on and off.

I would not sell electronics to start off with, I would sell random stuff you have around your house that you no longer need, then once you have a few feedback you can start selling the electronics.
As most electronics are seen as a high risk item to list.

another thing i wanted to doublecheck.

My brother has an ebay account registered on the home address (the one im suspended on).

he uses it for buying, but has sold maybe 3 items in the last few years.

I will have a new IP address shortly since im changing my internet at home.

Would his usage of his ebay account intefere with mine?

If my connection is straight into my router, but his computer is connecting wirelessly to my router, would this be a problem?

I guess that would mean ebay linking the IP to home address instantly?

i guess wireless dongle is the way forward

[Bunneh]

Yes that is a problem.

Rather get a dongle to be safe.

[davidbeckham2012]

cool thanks,

im actually in the process of getting my broadband changed, so automatically i will get a new ip thats never been used previously.
so yeah, i guess if i was to register using that new IP, and then later my brother comes and logs into his account, that will automatically flag the new IP and link our accounts, even though we are nothing to do with each other.




so guess its wireless dongle pay as you go, then

[davidbeckham2012]

Originally Posted by Bunneh

Yes that is a problem.

Rather get a dongle to be safe.

Also, wanted to check

when im on Entropay, and im creating new cards.

do you have to specify a name/address for each new card created?

I just put in the same name/address info as i put on my paypal stealth and eBay Stealth?

[Bunneh]

when i registered for entropay, i did not use the first initial entropay card to be safe. I click 'NEW CARD' every time i need a new card.

The information on my stealth account is what i use for the card info. (if that makes sense)

[Bunneh]

Originally Posted by davidbeckham2012

cool thanks,

im actually in the process of getting my broadband changed, so automatically i will get a new ip thats never been used previously.
so yeah, i guess if i was to register using that new IP, and then later my brother comes and logs into his account, that will automatically flag the new IP and link our accounts, even though we are nothing to do with each other.



so guess its wireless dongle pay as you go, then

If your brother was suspended from selling and then has another ebay account for buying with the same information he was suspended.

I would not allow him to log onto your computer that you are using your new account on, as they will definitely all link together.

Which is why it is safer to use a different windows user account and different internet dongle/modem.

[davidbeckham2012]

hi

He has never been suspended, it was basically all ow my own accounts!

I had one account in my real name, it got suspended, and then opened up multiple accounts with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ names/etc but my real card details. i think i went through multiple credit cards.

Eventually they all caught up and all the accounts got banned. All on the same address and i think IP, although im pretty sure i must have changed my ISP at least once during those years between 2001 and 2006.

Its a few years after that whole escapade, i think 2008 he made his own new account on his actual name, not sure what address he put in, and it seems to be running without any issues.

he buys with it all the time, but he's only used it a few times for selling, like cars and maybe a stereo.

im pretty sure he set up that ebay account on my previous ISP, so it was a different IP address when set up, and since then, ive changed ISP several times.

I'll be using a dongle anyway, just to be on the safe side. My items won't be image heavy anyway, just simple, basic cheap items from china.

I'll will probably buy a few cheap items first, scope out for a bit, then maybe list one or two small items to build up feedback.

[Bunneh]

Sounds all good as long as you two never link accounts together.
So he cannot log into his ebay on your windows user and with you using a dongle should all be good to go

[davidbeckham2012]

yes, he has his own computer which connects to the wireless router.

You know for ebay names, should i use my own real name or a variation of it, or just a completely made up name?

i'm thinking of the possibilities in the future, for when they will ask for id etc, so i can be ready

[Bunneh]

do you mean your name or username?

[davidbeckham2012]

sorry, yes, the ebay first name, surname when you sign up, along with the address details.

or is it best to be safe and just put in a different name?

since im going stealth any name really isn't it?