Do stealth accounts really work?

[slokor]

Is this the way it is for UK accounts only? cause I don't think it applies to US account and if that is the way it is perhaps youll need to look into operating US accounts instead of UK ones. Is that an option for UK users?

[slokor]

And yes it is legal for paypal to look at credit records. You agree to pretty much everything when you sign up for an account.

[trumpet111]

Originally Posted by heikki10

How long have you had yours for? i'm thinking of creating one since i've been the latest victim of ebay suspension for no apperant reason.

Also do i need to create a new paypal account for my new stealth account? or can i just create a new email and then add it to my existing paypal account and then link that new email to my ebay (paypal allows 6 emails per account) so that way it looks like my stealth ebay account has a new paypal

Do you know how what address to add to the new account?
It cannot be the same as old one, right?

What about the returns?

[JamesNorth101]

You will need a new address for returns

[offthegriduk]

Yes they work well I had one for over 16 months but just wrecked it myself :( own fault

[mike316]

Hi all, you guys are my saviours. Been reading these forums for a few years now but until now have never actually taken the plunge. Just created my 1st stealth account & I will be making many more. With process of elimination I'm sure it will work and I can always buy the stealth guide for help. Thanks everyone for amazing advice given on this site.

[wwwStealth]

Can I walk away with paypal EU limits on Stealth account?

[joffieJaffa]

Originally Posted by seya

Hi, Can I ask

if you get a new email, a new address (move home), a new paypal account, set up a new email account, get a new telephone number and a new laptop

is the only real issue the debit card you will be using?

but what if you have another debit card with another bank?

would this work?

the only thing that would be sort of similar is the name? (but maybe the system will allow you to add or take away one letter?

can someone shed some light on this for me?

for sure it would

If you have a new last name , new address the card would work because it would have the same postcode and would be in your real name.


I would love to know why some seem to think you couldn't.

[RosieTosie]

Originally Posted by slokor

Is this the way it is for UK accounts only? cause I don't think it applies to US account and if that is the way it is perhaps youll need to look into operating US accounts instead of UK ones. Is that an option for UK users?

No, it isn't an option for us slokor because we don't have US bank accounts, just like it would be difficult for you to start selling on UK ebay. Some banks offer overseas accounts but things like that are much more tricky to operate.

[RosieTosie]

Originally Posted by joffieJaffa

for sure it would

If you have a new last name , new address the card would work because it would have the same postcode and would be in your real name.


I would love to know why some seem to think you couldn't.

No it wouldn't work because using real bank issued cards will not pass the AVS checks, that's why we use VCC's that as far as paypal is concerned contain only our stealth details. By using real bank cards our real details are there for them to see and our stealth ID's would be blown.

[Ebayorbust]

Originally Posted by RosieTosie

No it wouldn't work because using real bank issued cards will not pass the AVS checks, that's why we use VCC's that as far as paypal is concerned contain only our stealth details. By using real bank cards our real details are there for them to see and our stealth ID's would be blown.

No, they aren't.

This is not what an AVS check does. A card transaction with AVS enabled produces a code that states either a full match, partial match or no match has been made against the address provided by the merchant (Paypal). The merchant then uses a set of rules to decide whether to accept the transaction.

At no stage does Paypal see the real info attached to the debit card.

Entropay works as a VCC as it does not produce an AVS code. Paypal's automated rules initially accept cards with no AVS info. However when a card is asked to be confirmed as part of a limitation process, Paypal do require AVS info.

[mynameis]

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust

No, they aren't.

This is not what an AVS check does. A card transaction with AVS enabled produces a code that states either a full match, partial match or no match has been made against the address provided by the merchant (Paypal). The merchant then uses a set of rules to decide whether to accept the transaction.

At no stage does Paypal see the real info attached to the debit card.

Entropay works as a VCC as it does not produce an AVS code. Paypal's automated rules initially accept cards with no AVS info. However when a card is asked to be confirmed as part of a limitation process, Paypal do require AVS info.

In general, I'm sure as part of the AVS check there is another check that confirms the surname on the card issued, no? e.g. Amazon etc.

[luverlyjuberly]

I'm setting up new paypal account, are we saying in this thread that we can set up an entropay virtual credit card with our real name and address and then use it for a stealth account because Paypal cannot see that real name and address?
Can I then use the main card that have my real details or is there another step e have to take when using entropay?
Sorry for being a bit dim today.

[sax4]

Originally Posted by luverlyjuberly

I'm setting up new paypal account, are we saying in this thread that we can set up an entropay virtual credit card with our real name and address and then use it for a stealth account because Paypal cannot see that real name and address?
Can I then use the main card that have my real details or is there another step e have to take when using entropay?
Sorry for being a bit dim today.

Yes Entropay will work with any address, ie your Paypal account is 12, stealth Street, stealthtown, and your Entropay account address is your address.

Don't apologise, you can help it

[luverlyjuberly]

Cheers, I've just spent a few hours setting up a new account. ebay, Paypal, Entropay, gmail. my brains shutting down so that's it for today.

[sax4]

Originally Posted by luverlyjuberly

Cheers, I've just spent a few hours setting up a new account. ebay, Paypal, Entropay, gmail. my brains shutting down so that's it for today.

Yep takes a little while to get your head around the basics but one you do you'll have many successful accounts

[rsot]

Originally Posted by sax4

Yep takes a little while to get your head around the basics but one you do you'll have many successful accounts

Also depends on the what is being sold - sometimes people forget that....

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by luverlyjuberly

I'm setting up new paypal account, are we saying in this thread that we can set up an entropay virtual credit card with our real name and address and then use it for a stealth account because Paypal cannot see that real name and address?
Can I then use the main card that have my real details or is there another step e have to take when using entropay?
Sorry for being a bit dim today.

no no no NO....

easier that what you just wrote:

Make the entropay with your real ID. Fund that main account.

Use funds from that to make your virtual card to use with paypal.

ALL that is needed is the numbers.... yep, no name, no address: simply those sweet little numbers.

easy peasy.

[zeppo]

Originally Posted by eternity4u

absolutely agree.

With hard work, it does pay off.

Well ive been working my ass off to make it work but im having trouble with it...what am i doing wrong..??

[rsot]

Maybe worth considering purchasing an account then...I am not looking over your past posts zeppo but is there a link to a post where you wrote out ALL your steps of account creation?

[disco]

I have a 2010' version of eBay Stealth. Is here a new one or methods are the same? Thanks!

[zeppo]

Originally Posted by disco

I have a 2010' version of eBay Stealth. Is here a new one or methods are the same? Thanks!

im not the person to be asking im still getting up to pace on all this