iOffer - What do you all think of Ioffer? -AND you can transfer your + EBAY feedback!

[mjstallion]

Originally Posted by rond100

ebay will log you IP anytime you login in to eBay this includes authenticating a third party like netvibes, auctiva, or mr grabber.

That is incorrect. ebay will not log your IP from mr grabber because no ebay token is generated. mr grabber takes your login info and logs in from their servers, the same way esnipe does.

[ebayhateluv]

HI: This--I do not know for certain--but I am always cautious//maybe even PARANOID??

[Junkymail]

Originally Posted by mjstallion

That is incorrect. ebay will not log your IP from mr grabber because no ebay token is generated. mr grabber takes your login info and logs in from their servers, the same way esnipe does.

That was my understanding as well... I hope this is the case!

And I have had 0 success with iOffer :( My hit count is 0 after signing up several months ago. But I still have hope that eventually traffic will start moving in that direction.

After all, they are 2nd in regards to # of listings according to this site: Auction site count, Keep track of the number of listings on auction sites

And I've noticed that sellers with similar inventory to mine have a steady stream of ratings (their equivalent to feedback) coming in, meaning they've been getting sales regularly, but not nearly the same traffic as I've had on eBay. I'm going to test what other types of inventory might sell better on iOffer. I might need to think of a different market to target.

Lets hope more traffic moves to iOffer!

[meowmix541]

I am kinda scared of Ioffer I have seen some of the items that are put up...YIKES!!

[411guru]

I am making $300 a month on ioffer. Thats only 10% of what I made on ebay. But its rising too. In fact I get sales almost every hour of the day and am having problems delivering it. Alot of folks from Australia buying my stuff at 4am and expect instant delivery of digital items.

[ebay-sucks]

I have been watching my competition in one specific area on Ioffer and they not sold a single item for more then a month now. Dont know if its the low traffic count or they are alittle high on pricing but they are not selling.

[411guru]

I've been on iOffer for awhile now so I thought I'd share my thoughts and a review on them. This would help sellers here to determine if iOffer is right for them, since iOffer seems to be the 2nd runner up in auctions next to ebay. Since I've been suspended from ebay, I searched high and low for the best alternative site for ebay. Believe me, I've become an expert in ebay alternative sites.

Background:

I was selling digital items on ebay and making good money (in the thousands per month). Then I get suspended for miscategorization of digital items, after ebay's new digital item policy. After march 31st, 2008, ebay only allows digital items in the classified ad format or you have to make a CD and physically ship it. These 2 choices were not for me so I looked for alternatives. Since ebay basically banned digital items, it made no since for me to make ⊗⊗⊗⊗ accounts like in the stealth book here, as I am only going to sell digital stuff and digital stuff is banned now. Which is why I looked for alternative sites.

iOffer.com facts:

The site is buggy. Some buttons don't work, etc. The site is slow. I went on whois.com and found out they only have 2 servers and 25 employees. Questions get answered in 3 days average. Alot of ⊗⊗⊗⊗ everythings, especially purses, DVD box sets, software like XP, Vista, Rosetta Stone, and MS Office, all for like $25 or less. Calculates Final value fee including shipping.
They have a program called C.O.P.S. which is like VERO on ebay. However they don't do anything, they leave it up for the rights owners.

iOffer.com the good:

Has Mr. Grabber, a program which grabs your feedback and even listings from ebay. You can list anything in any category. For example, a shirt in the electronics section. Therefore, you can spam iOffer. They say they check but really don't. No listing fees, and no fees unless you sell. Has tools to submit to google base. Integrated with paypal and google checkout. Has 4.5 million listings and 1 million unique visitors a month. The best next to ebay. Listens to suggestions. iOffer has a thread on their forum where you can list suggestions and sometimes they do it. For example, they made pics up to 6 free.

iOffer.com the bad:

Mr. Grabber only transfers feedback numbers and percentage positive. Doesn't transfer comments etc. Can't get all listings transfered. Alot of non paying buyers. Get stupid buyers offering you less than cost for your items. ⊗⊗⊗⊗ everywhere. Has 4.5 million listings but listings never expire. They stay up forever as long as the seller is still registered or ends listing, whereas ebay's listings always end. This is important in determining listing numbers to determine which site is best. Temporarily suspends you if you sell 4 items without feedback. Slow site. Buggy site. ebay has 13.5 million listings and 16 million unique visitors, thus pwning iOffer. Spends like $300 a month on advertising, whereas ebay spends $100,000 plus a month. iOffer has 60,000 external links to it, whereas ebay has 16 million links to ebay.

My personal experiences/opinon/sales figures:

Best ebay alternative IMO. I have 25 duplicate listings on there but I only get 10% or less of ebay sales numbers. My best month on ebay was $3k whereas my best month on iOffer is $200 (this month June 2008). Keep in mind I sell digital items. However, my sales were dragged down for being suspended for 1 week because I suggested to forum members who got suspended for no feedback, to paypal buyers $1.00 to buy feedback, which is what I did. iOffer read my comment, deleted it, and suspended me. When I asked why, they told me so and made me promise to not do it again, which I promised and I was unsuspended. I've been on iOffer for 2 and 1/2 months and gross sales are around $300. Not good but better than nothing. Not integrated with e-junkie.com, which I use for my automated digital downloads. Now I have to manually send emails. This is only important for digital item sellers. My sales however are increasing, as I've learned how to spam iOffer with my listings etc. But it takes much more effort than ebay to get to the same sales numbers.

I hope this has been informational to you guys. Please add to this if you know additional info. Thanks.

[aspkin]

Good Review 411guru, thanks!

[HairyOldEbayer]

Thanks for your experience with iOffer. Every little bit helps.

Ever think of this. Get back on Ebay under another account, offer the digital product as a shipped CD but also let your customers know they can download the digital product now while the cd is being shipped to them. At that level I am not averse to putting 10 cd's in my cd tower and burning 10 or 20 cd's in 5 minutes. Drop them in a 10 cent cd mailer and you are done.

A little birdy told me some sellers are offering the download service as an added bonus for their hard copy cd customers. Some even had a note in the high bidder email and/or download page if you don't require the hardcopy cd let me know.


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[2eXclusiive]

thanks 411guru
i guess im lucky ive had ALOT more sales then that on ioffer
and im up for 2-3 months

[greg2414]

what u selling 2ex? on ioffer that is

[sparkle]

I think the review is a little harsh. IMO the site is technically superior to ebay with so many more features which ebay should have been implemented years ago but never will.

[greg2414]

sparkle your mad lol, there is no control over ⊗⊗⊗⊗ what so ever, it's a completely different type of selling aswell as the buyers can haggle

[sparkle]

I didnt mean the management was better, I meant the technical features of the site and the seller tools. I like the haggle feature too.

[2eXclusiive]

Originally Posted by greg2414

what u selling 2ex? on ioffer that is

sunglasses

[greg2414]

2ex ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or legit ?

[2eXclusiive]

Originally Posted by Modee

Well, can you transfer feedback from a suspended account? I would assume not, but wondering....

Yes, you can
=D

ive done it.

[411guru]

Thanks for the info HairyOldEbayer. I already knew about that. But I am weary as I've seen people get suspended because of that. One of my competitors.

sparkle, I do like some of the features of iOffer but the fact is the site is still very buggy and slow.

ex, Are you selling compare to brands? If so I have hella access to that.

Say, has anyone used the homepage feature? Is it worth it at $20?

You know who is rolling in money on iOffer? ⊗⊗⊗⊗ software sellers. hmmmm...

[2eXclusiive]

you know what i realized
most of the people selling on ioffer have been suspended on ebay, and have no where else to go.
thats why its filled with ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

411guru - if you sell ⊗⊗⊗⊗, then you should be making a bundle selling on ioffer.

[Goodwheel]

I hate ioffer! They have WAY too many nonpaying bidders and not enough actual customers. Their site gets pretty much no traffic compared to eBay. I think all ioffer did was inspired me to get back on ebay so i think it wasn't a total wasteful experience :D

[Goodwheel]

Originally Posted by 2eXclusiive

you know what i realized
most of the people selling on ioffer have been suspended on ebay, and have no where else to go.
thats why its filled with ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

411guru - if you sell ⊗⊗⊗⊗, then you should be making a bundle selling on ioffer.

NOT...alot of suppliers from china go on that site and sell to people as low as one item for regular wholesale price. So if you're expecting to make actual profit...hell no you're better off setting up a booth at the flea market if your ⊗⊗⊗⊗ can't pass on ebay

[2eXclusiive]

i did not say you had to be a supplier or anything for that matter

the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ on ioffer
for example :
software -
i see software on ioffer for as little as $25.00 SELLING LIKE IF IT WAS THE BEST DEAL IN THE WORLD
and the software being sold on ioffer are copies identical to the authentic, not alot of people can tell them apart unless a person really looks into it.

anyways those software(s) cost around $10.00 plus shipping, and if you buy in bulk you could probably get it for cheaper

[imjustme]

Originally Posted by 2eXclusiive

i did not say you had to be a supplier or anything for that matter

the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ on ioffer
for example :
software -
i see software on ioffer for as little as $25.00 SELLING LIKE IF IT WAS THE BEST DEAL IN THE WORLD
and the software being sold on ioffer are copies identical to the authentic, not alot of people can tell them apart unless a person really looks into it.

anyways those software(s) cost around $10.00 plus shipping, and if you buy in bulk you could probably get it for cheaper

When I travel to Thailand, I always buy software copies of games and stuff there. I'm just too lazy to download the 10GB games or 4GB softwares. Costs $3 per DVD. Not per CD, but per DVD. And they're still making a profit on it.

[2eXclusiive]

Originally Posted by imjustme

When I travel to Thailand, I always buy software copies of games and stuff there. I'm just too lazy to download the 10GB games or 4GB softwares. Costs $3 per DVD. Not per CD, but per DVD. And they're still making a profit on it.

and alot of people are making a killing selling it on ioffer,ebay (because its on dvd) and some probably have their own website.

[imjustme]

I doubt they sell DVD copies on eBay. They'd get VERO'd.

[2eXclusiive]

ahh yes the vero team
but the games also?

[imjustme]

I wouldn't know, but I guess so.

[2eXclusiive]

i don't think they would, i don't know

[411guru]

Thats right. ⊗⊗⊗⊗ software sells like crack, or ecstasy, or xanax. I see people on there who just joined 1 month ago and already has 300+ transactions. You can see how many they sold in their feedback even though the buyers didn't rate them yet. Making bank I tell you. The only thing stopping me is I don't want to get pwned by the FBI. I don't know why Microsoft or other companies haven't cracked down on iOffer yet.

[2eXclusiive]

it really is crazy, ive seen lots of 20, 50 and even 100

[greg2414]

411 u will find most of the feedback is imported imo

[411guru]

greg. Mr. Grabber only imports the number of feedbacks you have and percentage positive, not feedback comments. I am talking about dudes registered for 1 month with 300 transactions done. On ioffer, you can see transactions in their feedback even tho the buyer didn't rate them yet.

[greg2414]

ahhh brill, 300 nice going, shame on ⊗⊗⊗⊗ though :P( they will get put down soon no doubt

[2eXclusiive]

on ioffer?
lol
maybe in the future
but not today, tommorrow, this week or next week
you take down all the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ on that site, you take down ioffer auto.

[chostin]

the one time I tried ioffer so far I imported my feedback and then about 500 listings from ebay (feedback was also I think around 500).... shortly thereafter that ebay account got shut down. I don't think it had much to do with it but I am nervous about letting mr. grabber bring in info from a working ebay account.

[MOONCRICKET]

Google Trends: ioffer

Discuss.

[yaw1800]

people are probably looking to get cheaper deals there for the holidays

[aspkin]

Right, a moderate boost but nothing compared to eBay just yet.

[audiosoft]

after getting my account deleted for no reason, I stopped with iOffer. I did come back sometime and registered a new account. Try logging in the next day and it said my account did not exist. I tried contacting them numerous times but not luck....

[aristocrat]

anyone see the friends dvds offered all over Ioffer??? obvious ⊗⊗⊗⊗. i see them on ioffer selling for about $50 a pop then look over on ebay for around $100...how does the FBI not jack these guys up?