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New Section: Amazon Tracking
 

This section is for Amazon tracking (stealth) discussions. :typing:

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Discuss stealth as far as Amazon goes: browser fingerprinting, IP address tracking, device tracking, getting back on Amazon and more.

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Not making it a part of subscriber section?

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We'll see how it goes. Maybe it can be like 'eBay Tracking'

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Hi Guys,

Tried to post this already in other section. New to this. Not sure what happened to the message.

I have a router/modem combo.

1. Can I run multiple accounts on same router but using different virtual machines?

2. Can I run multiple accounts using VPNS, with same router?

3. Do I need to use a combination of both?

*This specifically relates to Amazon accounts
Thanks.

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Welcome to the forums Jason!

Yes, correct. Amazon cannot see the Mac address on your router, nor your computer network card, so don't worry about that.

Again, yes. But make sure you setup your VPN properly, and choose your provider wisely.

I would personally recommend that you use different IP solutions for different accounts, just to vary things up.

Good luck :thumb:

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Hello, friends, my name is Oleg, I know very little English, but I really want to get into the ranks of professional Amazon suppliers, like you.
I'm new to this, I have such a problem.
I live in Kyrgyzstan, when I was registered, my country is not listed.
But it's okay, I was still trying to register.
They chose the country of the Russian Federation, but I was almost immediately blocked, asked for documents and so on. License, etc., I did not have a license, I wrote that they would not answer me on this issue.
In general, I then bought a virtual machine, took a passport, a credit card of my friend, and two days later I was immediately asked to verify the identity. I sent them a passport in English and sent them an extract from my friend's account. They did not allow me to trade, bravo. I was so happy that I wanted to register a virtual Amazon service registered at the same address and the same mail. I made a registration, Amazon's virtual service service sent a letter so that I could verify the identity. I was not worried and did not pay attention and removed my virtual Amazon server. Half an hour later I wanted to go to sellercentral.amazon.kom.
But then there was such an error
"There was a problem
The account pool you entered is not valid. Correct the error and try again .. "
I could not enter my account, the password was reset, nothing helped.
Then the message came to the mail from
Seller-performance@amazon.com

Hello,

We check your Amazon.com merchant account. During our review, you will not be able to sell on Amazon.com. If you have sales, the funds will remain in your account.


The following documents must be submitted within the next 30 days:

- Utility bill with name and address
--Business license
- If you have active lists, provide copies of invoices, receipts, contracts or purchase orders from your supplier that have been issued in the last 90 days.

I have such questions, friends, how can I properly create a new account, you will help me in this, I hope that someone understood and helped me in English, I'm probably the only Korean guy who knows only Russian.

I would be grateful if you reset the links to the manual, how to create accounts under the names of other people and be ready for personal verification, where to get credit cards, zip codes and so on.
thanks friends

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Contact Amazon and say you don't have it and if there is an alternative to verify your account.

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i have a question I have the router/modem all in one from what i understand for amazon if i switch these out it will only change the internet mac.
I have a new computer just worried about my internet connection. Please help thanks in advance

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If you want to play it safe, get a different internet service provider.

Or a hotspot / dongle for 3G/4G/LTE

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Elmo I know you full of knowledge if a hotspot / dongle for 3G/4G/LTE i still need is that correct??

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What you need is an IP never used before on Amazon

You can either change your ISP at home

Or get a hotspot dongle to get a new IP

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So elmo with a hotspot still need a vpn or No I am ready to launch. Got a hotspot.

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If you get a hotspot you won't need a VPN.

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Correct! Hotspot will give you a new IP address so there is no need for a VPN

The VPN is only required if you're using an IP address that you've used before (such as home internet). The VPN will mask your previously used IP address

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I've successfully set up my VPN/dedicated IP on a clean-slate work laptop.

Regarding browser fingerprint - do I have to be vigilant on not logging onto certain websites on my new work laptop, such as Facebook, forums, email, etc. that I've logged into on my personal laptop I've used for years? Wouldn't this create some kind of association via cookies/cache/flash objects/etc.?

Thank you!

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Hi! I just went through Amazon Ghost and trying out from Step 1...

I've just downloaded the SMAC 2.0 Evaluation Mode but however, seems I need SMAC Standard or Professional to spoof MAC address...

Please help! All these are so new to me...

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You don't need to worry about spoofing your MAC

Either a new laptop/computer or virtual machine will be fine

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Confusing. Are you using a VPS as you mentioned server fonts, or are you using a Virtual machine?

If VPS, ditch that plan. New Virtual machine, change everything. Everything. Sign up again, and you should be okay. If not, read around the forums. Lots to learn.

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So just to make sure:
New Name
New Address
New Phone Number
New VCC
New IP

This is Canadian?

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Amazon.com ? Amazon.ca?

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What about cell phone tethering for you internet connection? I've been using that method on eBay for a couple of years. Now that Amazon can now only see your IP and not your MAC, Would this be a valid method?

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Tethering is fine as long as you never re-use the same IP on multiple amazon accounts. If you have not been recording the IPs used from the beginning then its possible you accidentally re-use an IP.

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My selling privileges have been removed on Amazon,,, can i create a new one with the same laptop with different IP ??

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As long as you use virtual machines /vmware/virtualbox and follow stealth procedure, shouldn't be an issue.

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You say that you got a message saying "account suspended", but what time of suspension is it? Are you just suspended while they are requesting documents?

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Hi! I'm wondering:

Why is a VPS no good? It's got a different dedicated static IP and it's basically a virtual machine which you are connecting to via Remote Desktop Connection. I do know of some sellers who have multiple accounts using separate VPS based accounts.

I would appreciate some clarity on this. Thank you!

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I've yet to hear or witness a reputable VPS provider. Also VPS is extra work, some people don't mind i guess.

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But technically, if it's done right, it should work, right? I personally know of someone who has around 20 AMZ accounts using VPS accounts, but he's not the only one. Doesn't seem to make any difference. That's why I was wondering. The work angle isn't too hard, I think - but it's well worth the effort - if it keeps you secure.

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Who ever you know that's running 20 accounts via VPS has to be one of the few who is using a good VPS....

In theory a VPS will work fine if you can find a good one that isn't burned by Amazon.

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Thank you for confirming.

That's the one I signed up with. It's really a good deal too. I also confirmed with the tech support as well, and they said that nothing is visible beyond the Static IP of the VPS, so it's totally secure.

I want to create 100 active buying accounts. I want to use every account to actually buy my own ebooks (real books, not trash). How would I go about making amazon believe these accounts are real? Please, real answers only! Don't ask why I want this - I just do

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reason why is in here btw.

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yes, but can it be done?

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Ok so here's my situation - I have been successfully operating a ghost account for about a year - very profitably and we have a very large (almost 7 figure) investment on the line for the holidays so I'd terrified. I usually use my old IP address and computer associated with a suspended seller account to check emails (gmail account) on the ghost account email. However, I have always been very careful to not click any links, respond to customers, etc when checking this email through the IP and computer associated with the banned account.

However today, there was a customer question (posted publicly) to one of our listings (both sellers of the product and customers receive these emails ) and I opened the email to check out what the question was quickly and accidentally clicked the link to that customer question which redirects you to Amazon - I believe a log in would have been necessary to answer the question. I did close the screen that popped up from the link very very quickly (before the page even showed up on my screen.

Do I have anything to worry about based on other user's experiences? Would very much appreciate some feedback as I'm very very nervous for obvious reasons.

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As long as you never logged in you should be fine

But who knows these days Amazon is a beast with linking software

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Make sure your new account has nothing to link to old suspended accounts.

So, if you have a hotspot, make sure the Ips are not closely related.

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There is this really amazing AND helpful tool then.

Read the threads on amazon and take notes. You will see info from other posters that will relate to your story.

So you do not think this is a brush-off, what is your situation with Amazon at this point.

Fill me in. I will be happy to try to help you.

:yar:

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wow...i just want one working account...my normal regular seller account was suspended because i didnt reply to the a-z claims in time...they denied my appeal and wont allow me to setup on Amazon....i tried my wife's, a new EIN, and other computers to setup a new account and they will not open them, they keep saying that I have to send in utility bills and they still will not reply to my account being opened. Shesh....i just want to open one up again and sell normally...help me Obi-Wan Kenobi...you're my only hope

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Hi elmo
Can I really change an Ip address on my iphone just by tuen on /off airplane mode ? Then is that safe to create an stealth amazon ?
Thanks

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For new IP, that method works but for creating stealth amazon, you need much more - your browser would still have cookies from old amazon accounts unless you wipe it and take additional steps.