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kris3841 09-15-2010 12:43 AM

Another newbie question
 
Hey guys,
Trying to get a couple more accounts going, ran CC Cleaner on one of my 'tainted' computers, and recently acquired a brand new IP from my new ISP (yay!). Question, so I moved and got my new ISP and IP but brought my old
linksys router with me. Now when I do an IPCONFIG or such from my computers I'm showing my old IPs from my last address and ISP!!! I imagine these are only my 'internal/private' IP addresses right? When I ping yahoo or wherever it does show my new stealth IP.
So my question is... is there anyway Amazon will be able to see my internal (local area) IPs? Or are they forced to see only my external IP?
Hope you guys can help me out.
Thanks so much!

Gladiator 09-17-2010 08:50 AM

When you go to ip2location, ipburger, etc does it show the new ip? I do not think they would see your local network ip address. If you log into your router, is it showing your stealth ip address? If it does, don't worry about the local ip.

kris3841 09-18-2010 06:26 AM

- Well to answer Gladiator it does only show the new IP. .
UPDATE: After 'stealthing' everything and running CC Cleaner on my old computer
which I used to create the account, etc, it was suspended within two - three hours.
This leads me to think Amazon is putting some stealthy stuff on our computers that even CC Cleaner doesn't touch. I would like to hear others chime in, but as of now and even further research the only thing that I could have been linked to is my old computer.

JohnnyBoy 09-19-2010 09:58 AM

You don't have to worry about local/internal addresses. Just make sure you changed all the mac addresses that Amazon can see since you are using a previously banned computer and router.

jeffweico 09-19-2010 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kris3841 (Post 167151)
- Well to answer Gladiator it does only show the new IP. .
UPDATE: After 'stealthing' everything and running CC Cleaner on my old computer
which I used to create the account, etc, it was suspended within two - three hours.
This leads me to think Amazon is putting some stealthy stuff on our computers that even CC Cleaner doesn't touch. I would like to hear others chime in, but as of now and even further research the only thing that I could have been linked to is my old computer.

Yes. The MAC addresses could link you. Also, they employ browser fingerprinting which is VERY EFFECTIVE. Also, if you did not change the NAME of your PC, that would also do it. My method for new Amazon accounts is to use a new PC for each with a new ISP. When I say NEW PC, I mean used, you can pick them up locally for $100 or so. Others will tell you this is overkill, but it works for me and it is what I am comfortable with.

kris3841 09-22-2010 04:25 AM

Yes, they prob got me with either the MAC or the browser fingerprint.....makes total sense and simple from their end. Is it hard to change your MAC address? I thought that was hard wired. I imagine from now I'll be using a separate computer for each account.... netbooks are going for $150 online nowadays.

dennisjaneway 09-22-2010 07:24 AM

use a 56k Modem and this will solve your MAC-Problem!

rsot 09-22-2010 10:45 AM

Exactly - dial-up sucks hard but...does the trick - multitask ha

JohnnyBoy 09-22-2010 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dennisjaneway (Post 167995)
use a 56k Modem and this will solve your MAC-Problem!

I always wondered about that. Dial up is a point to point connection so there is no need to have a destination address (mac address) in the packets/frames right? And yea, its sucks hard. Takes about 20 minutes to add inventory and manage orders versus a couple minutes on dsl. And thats for one account.

jsmith1234 10-31-2010 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffweico (Post 167340)
Yes. The MAC addresses could link you. Also, they employ browser fingerprinting which is VERY EFFECTIVE. Also, if you did not change the NAME of your PC, that would also do it. My method for new Amazon accounts is to use a new PC for each with a new ISP. When I say NEW PC, I mean used, you can pick them up locally for $100 or so. Others will tell you this is overkill, but it works for me and it is what I am comfortable with.

Can't you just use VMware to create a virtual computer? Why not use a new static VPN and spoof the mac addresses?

E-Nertia 11-01-2010 12:33 AM

Smac and Vmware

holymoly 11-01-2010 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Nertia (Post 178510)
Smac and Vmware

O and btw, these are great things; however, I believe that I was talking with my techie last week and he said that sadly MAC's don't go must past the ISP original network and then it all trails off. Also, there are so many computers that MAC's are bound to be duplicated throughout...just look at how we are going to run out of IP coding addresses by 2022.

Again, this is what my tech said for MACs I believe him since he has as many years under his belt in the field as I do almost in age!


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