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5 Accounts Closed - All VmWare Accounts HELP
 

Today I created 2 additional VMWare accounts for new Amazon making my total (5) Amazon accounts with VMware. I've purchased the Amazon Ghost Guide. All accounts had different Macs and Router IP's. An hour later all VMWare accounts were closed and this is the same email I received from Seller Performance. I'm totally stumped as I used different emails for every account! Anyone have input?

Hello from Amazon.

This message is to let you know that we have closed the selling account associated to this email address. We took this action because in reviewing our records, we have evidence that this account is related to another selling account.

Per our policies, participants may operate only one selling account on Amazon.com. We enforce this policy in the interest of maintaining a free and fair venue for all participants.

Opened an email while logged into the wrong user account

Unless you have gmail then you're safe.

Maybe you repeated bank details

Forgot to clear cookies & Flash cookies

Same computer name?? Maybe...?

did business while logged into wrong account

Same Password used

Listed the same item which happens to be a rare item

Amazon found you on Ebay and there you revealed personal info which linked you to another account.

You reused a telephone number

You bought an item on Amazon then had it sent to your home address using stealth account


Just some ideas....

Nope - Opened an email while logged into the wrong user account

Used Gmail - Unless you have gmail then you're safe.

All different Greendot cards/account numbers: Maybe you repeated bank details

Set up new Virtual Machines - Forgot to clear cookies & Flash cookies

Same Computer, but followed Amazon Ghost Guide - Same computer name?? Maybe...?

Nope - did business while logged into wrong account

Nope - Same Password used

Listed one item per account, all different - Listed the same item which happens to be a rare item

Nope - Amazon found you on Ebay and there you revealed personal info which linked you to another account.

Used Google Voice with a different number and had verifications forwarded to my Cell - You reused a telephone number

nope - You bought an item on Amazon then had it sent to your home address using stealth account


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One reason could be using Google Voice???? When I set up gmail accounts, I set up a google voice phone number and have calls forwarded to my cell. I verify my identity with the forwarding option.

I dont think they can know that its google voice.. Otherwise paypal/ebay would as well.

Did you change your mac address for every account you made?

I did change the MAC for the router, but not the Modem (Clone with TMAC) When I created the Virtual Machines I checked the Mac for every account. (run, cmd, getmac)

Every Mac address for every Virtual Machine was different than my desktop Mac so I didn't change it. Maybe they are picking up my Desktop Mac or something??? Why would a different Mac show in the Virtual Machine though?

Why would Amazon Performance tell me in the email for every one of the five accounts closed that they were closed because an "EMAIL" address used to set up the account was used for another account?

How accurate is Seller Performance when it comes to the reasons for why an account closes? Could these accounts have closed for a different reason? Even though they claim it was because of email addresses?

I had the exact same problems, did everything right, and all the new accounts I created were closed within a day because they are "related" to another suspended accounts, I tried at least 30 accounts... What's going on with Amazon?

what's going on with amazon is that every dog and his man is trying to be stealth there.
Amazon are deciding to dislike this idea.

Be careful about what you mention espceially in wide open places :spy:

Yes the same thing has happened to me and i have bought and followed the amazon ghost guide also. I used different ip addresses on different dial up service and checked everything. It must be amazon is just closing down accounts at will and giving a generic excuse for doing it. :mad2:

Were you listing items in categories that have no other RECENTLY LAUNCHED sellers?

I just had to "re-verify" my information for Amazon, my address and my phone number though I've had this account for 9 months

This doesn't mean this:

Otherwise I am also using Google Voice and never was shut down because using it.

Did you use stealth addresses, does the street number and zip match the Amazon CC billing info?
Are your phone numbers' area codes within reasonable distance from these addresses?

I think so RSOT. Why?

Yes. I used Stealth addresses and no, a few of the zip codes did not match the CC billing info. They were in 15-20 mile radius. The zip and cities from the address did not exactly match the zips for the billing info. Would this make a difference?

Am az on has a tendency I have noticed of MASS suspensions and blocks from categories that have no RECENTLY LAUNCHED sellers i.e. they will boot one person from it then (for some time) continue to boot and auto-block other people who list in that category.

That might have happened to you - but for 5 accounts, chances are weird but still something to consider...

Were the stealth addresses real? Real homes at those addresses? If they are random addresses you made up, that won't go.
If they are real remember that someone may have a Amazon account there or worse a banned one.

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oh no! A Banned Amazon address.

The street number and zip of the card is transmitted to Amazon, so you have to make sure that you are using the exact same info when you register a new account.
This is confirmed, I previously got banned because of this, as soon as I corrected the issue with my next accounts, everything was OK, they are still alive.

RSOT you should make that your avatar!

most def it's cookies.

also are u making all your vmware accts copies of the same os installation?

as in: on 1 windows user acct: on the 1 vmware and then load windows OS 1 time and u are coping?

if so that your prob.

need to use diff windows user accts. - honestly people that do not know what the r doing are the one stealth on amazon pushing the prices way down just to sell an item.

amazon know when things are too cheap! so please do not do that!

- watch your win user accts:
- and also always install your OS as fresh from the .iso everytime. Do Not copy it!!

and guys do not push the prices down!!!

It can not be cookies, if he is using different VmWare virtual machines for every account.

WRONG. Why would you use a different user account for a virtual machine?

What is the difference between a clean OS install and a clone of a clean OS install?
NOTHING. He is not mistaking by copying.

Do you have any hard core information regarding this?
There's a bunch of people selling books for 1 cent just for feedback and nobody ever gets suspended because of that.

hi
 

thanks

i used diferents windows 2000 , 2000 sp1 , sp3 xp , oracle , linux windows 98 same time i make clone windows but i prefer instalar , diferent kind of linux , oracle, windows , i never got problem, today - Tomorrow is not far :pry::pop2::yar:

newtools , thanks for saying that

my guess is this too. happened to me too :(

amazon is nice but not very secure money wise. im pretty much fed up with them. the items i sell on there arent real risky and with their fees dont make enough to warrant the hassle anymore.

Listing the same item is the biggest problem most likely if you did only 1 item on every account. Cookies/flash have nothing to do with it if you created new machines. Also you need to change the computer ID key on each machine (delete some fonts). For the IP, it needs to be the last 2 sets of numbers that vary as well. cant just be the last set. I guarantee its from listing only 1 item which is the exact same on all the new accounts, which I'm assuming you did very quickly after one another. I've got 5 accounts up right now doing all the steps you did (for the most part) without a single problem. I also haven't sold any of the same items on any of the accounts (with an exception or 2, but I made sure that there was time difference and they have all been up for nearly 6 months now so i've escaped that worry). Make sure your computer key is different (you can search for more info on that), also I'd name your computers differently (I use the persons name on the account for each computer name).

Hope this helps

He said he listed different items:

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I am 99% sure the problem is the address that doesn't match the credit cards' billing address. The street number and zip code HAS TO MATCH.

honnestly Alnev,

there is a big difference between a clone or an os and the fresh install. U really do not know what u are talking about. Amazon is a much for sophisticated system. They have the ability to take a snapshot of your system settling, fonts catalog, browser settings etc.

when you clone an os, you are making a direct copy of everything that is being made based on a snapshot amazons bots can look act for similarities to then ban you. A copy will be nothing until you are ban the first time. Then that snapshot, meaning Os, it's setting, browsers settings, cookies, flash cookies etc.. along with products sold, your patterns, ip address range, mac address will then become HOT!

What I mean by that is the original snapshot of that now suspended acct becomes Hot information in amazon systems that will then lead to the linking for the others accts when items and setting start to match.

This is the reason why you to not want a clone. my friend, you have 43 posts here. you cannot know it all. no one can. this is why we come here to learn.

Clones most def create an issue. a diff and fresh vmware complete os install will actually create a slightly diff snapshot each time. This included the vmware mac and nat numbers and settings.

diff user accts also does matter as it is a basis of another layer of separation.

for those that want too do it there way, that's fine.. it keeps less of those who do not want to listen off of the platform.

Let me explain one more time...
You are obviously not cloning a used OS. You have a clean, untouched install of an OS, and that's the one you are cloning every time you need a new Amazon account. This will be exactly the same as a fresh install, except that it's done in 2 minutes and not in a half an hour or an hour.
I just can not explain this better.

I do not really like your "friendly tone". Please adjust it.
Also, I do not want to criticize the way you are giving credit to people here on the forum, but I would seriously reconsider ranking people by the amount of posts they have.

Any new clone of a VmWare OS will have a new MAC address.
And there is no such thing as NAT number, NAT is the process of modifying IP address information in IP packet headers. You probably wanted to say something about MAC cloning and changing IPs :) Well, cloning or installing a fresh OS doesn't have any effect on the router MAC or the IP, you change these manually.

The OS inside the VM will never know what user account created it in the host OS. So there is no point in creating the user account.

I agree ;)

My tone is fine and need not adjust for you. I am not hear to argue without anyone. I am choosing to answer this post only to try and help someone not to have a sword fight. So you will not find me trying to rebut or try to prove you wrong. It si far from my point or purpose. so Mr. Poster as you were.

There is a rhyme and reason to what we do and how we do it, anyone who thinks there way is the only way or there is no other simply is not hear to share a solution but to prove something. This really helps no one.

We are here to help the orig poster to solve his issue, so i invite you break it down and find his core problem. As of yet i have not seen this.

In my time i have run into quite a few people who are out to prove themselves. All i say is: kill them with kindness. Have a wonderful night my friend.

I agree with you and I wish you would've had this tone in your previous posts, then we could've had a friendly conversation.
It's just that lines like "U really do not know what u are talking about." and "you have 43 posts here. you cannot know it all" just don't trigger that particular kindness in me what you are talking about.

Enough with the off-topic and peace!

don't clone even a new fresh OS. Do a fresh install everytime. I have windows XP SP3 and a working key (same key for every install) that I use every time. The first thing I do is delete 3-5 random fonts. Then I intall SMAC and Firefox. Thats it. Log into my email first, then into my amazon, save my login info and use it for nothing but that. I have 5 accounts running (same of them quite dangerously close to each other, i.e. selling the same item at different prices) and not a single problem. It has to be something with your computer key. Just gotta stick to step by step directions (I wrote my own to follow to make sure I didn't make a mistake) and you're fine. All my IPs only have the last 2 sets of numbers changing as well. One in depth look into the accounts would pick up on a lot of similarities, but the decepticons don't compare all of those. And unless I put all my accounts into review at the same time it's safe.

30 mins vs 2 mins of install time is worth it in the long run. You can never be too careful or too safe when it comes to selling on Amazon.

Yes, all real addresses.

I figured that may be a problem. The zips were no exactly the same, but very close. I'll keep them the same for these next accounts I set up.

I'm confused. Are you saying to use a separate Windows account PER VMWARE account? Every Vmware account I set up, I set up on my standard User account and NOT a fresh User account.

Also, What do you mean copies of the same os installation? I downloaded my Windows Vista and used my product key on the side of my PC. I used that downloaded Vista file for every Vmware account I set up.

This is what I thought. I thought you didn't need to create a new user account for a virtual machine. Is there a thread about how to set up a virtual machine properly for multiple accounts? If not, I would love to create one because I'm obviously doing something wrong with VMWARE. I love the idea of VMWARE and would love to know how to properly set up accounts without being linked somehow.

So it's necessary to change up computer ID key (Fingerprints) for every new Virtual Machine I set up? I though the benefit of the VMachine was to avoid having to hassle with all of that.

Thank you all for your help. I truly appreciate it. I think this could be one of many of my problems. Just FYI, all 5 accounts were closed within minutes of another. I did fresh Vista installs on all accounts. I do use the same key for every instal and I also installed each account on my standard user. I DID NOT install SMAC as I thought you get a new MAC address for every Virtual Machine (Please correct me if I'm wrong). I did NOT delete any fonts or change any fingerprinting for all 5 Virtual accounts. This could of been one major problem as I''m assuming all of my Virtual Machines had similar fingerprints. Not changing the MAC could also have been a problem. (I did change/clone the linksys router Mac within the Virtual Machine. I also did NOT create new users per Virtual Machine and lastly The zip codes for the credit cards/accounts did not match exactly to the address zip codes.