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| Rgivens | 07-26-2011 05:12 PM | My suggestions to create an Amazon account properly Hello everyone,
I have been selling on Amazon for quite some time now and figured I would share a little bit of knowledge with this community. The small tutorial I'll be providing today is how to create a new Amazon account and cash out properly. Step 1: Create an Amazon buyer's account with a new IP address, computer user, browser, email, VCC, bank and false personal data. Step 2: Soon after creating an Amazon account, sign up for a seller's account. Use the VCC and Banking information for this step. Step 3: Let your account sit for approximately (10) days, (depending on how much you sell.) Step 4: On the 10th day, start selling products. If you're a big-time seller, and make upwards of $200 per day; I suggest selling on the 12th or 13th day. If you sell $50 or less per day, you may start on the 10th. Step 5: Initiate a transfer to your banking account on day 14. Halt all sales during this period, so as to assure Amazon doesn't put your account under review. Final step: Enjoy your money without dealing with an initial "velocity limit" review.
One of the biggest mistakes I made when selling on Amazon to start, was that I sold approximately $3,500 in the first 2 weeks of being in business. Before I had a chance to cash out the funds, Amazon put me under review. This easy step-by-step process allows you to cash out your funds, all while staying undetected by Amazon.
Now, I have had accounts get banned in the past doing this same process. However, I was offering the same product over and over again; with no more than 2 seperate choices. If you offer a variety of products, Amazon won't catch on.
Good luck!
R. |
| jon3674 | 07-27-2011 02:08 AM | Hi
I was under the impression that a new mac address was also needed, and that resulted in a new computer, is that not the case? Can you get around the new mac address buy just creating a new user on the same computer? |
@jon3674 - don't derail the topic - no no ha.
@Rgivens, nice simplified tip - only step 1 I would disagree a bit (or perhaps you can school me a bit) - why bother making a buyer account in the first place? Perhaps I am not following this step and failing because of this hmm.
I have never used the VCC or other cc for buyer account creation THEN seller. |
| nobody999 | 07-27-2011 11:42 AM | i have a question regarding #1
are you able to input credit card # and bank info without having to actually buy something?
also how much are we able to disperse on day 14? |
| unfortuantemistake | 07-27-2011 12:22 PM | As somone who has tried every combination of selling, waiting, 3 days, 10 days, 12 days, different dollar amounts, 50-500.00, there is no guaranteed way that is going to work.
Amazon's system is completely random, sometime you can be put under review for selling one item for 19.99, sometime you can sell several 100 and be able to transfer in the 14 days.
Velocitiy limits seem to be different on every account.
Also, a new MAC address is always helpful and easy to do with a spoof program. |
| Rgivens | 07-27-2011 01:58 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by nobody999
(Post 253316)
i have a question regarding #1
are you able to input credit card # and bank info without having to actually buy something?
also how much are we able to disperse on day 14? | I do apologize for the confusion regarding question number 1. I will simplify it.. What I actually meant, was that you need all of the above information listed in #1 to create both a buyer's account and a seller's account. You will only use the banking information and credit card (VCC) when signing up for a seller's account.
Also, yes, you can enter your credit card # and bank info without buying something. |
| Rgivens | 07-27-2011 01:59 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by nobody999
(Post 253316)
i have a question regarding #1
are you able to input credit card # and bank info without having to actually buy something?
also how much are we able to disperse on day 14? | You can disperse as much as you have in your account on day 14. |
| Rgivens | 07-27-2011 02:03 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by unfortuantemistake
(Post 253329)
As somone who has tried every combination of selling, waiting, 3 days, 10 days, 12 days, different dollar amounts, 50-500.00, there is no guaranteed way that is going to work.
Amazon's system is completely random, sometime you can be put under review for selling one item for 19.99, sometime you can sell several 100 and be able to transfer in the 14 days.
Velocitiy limits seem to be different on every account.
Also, a new MAC address is always helpful and easy to do with a spoof program. | I have tried this step more than 5 times and I've always been able to cash out without any problems on day 14. One of the main reasons an account is banned before the 14 day period is up, is because they either sell the same items as a previously banned account, or they are traced through some form of CPU information. Never for velocity limits... |
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Amazon bans members instantly if a seller's account is the first creation.
| Well, my accounts have gone into instant selling from account creation - and rarely I get banned right away. Sure sooner or later but I think the buying step is redundant. HOWEVER, it's worth a shot on my part to see if it helps for account stability =) Good stuff. |
| Rgivens | 07-27-2011 03:20 PM | Not only does it give the impression you aren't interested in selling, it also gives the impression you're new to selling on Amazon. It's a little bit harder to track repeat offenders if you create a buyer's account first. :) |
| nobody999 | 07-27-2011 06:04 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Rgivens
(Post 253409)
Not only does it give the impression you aren't interested in selling, it also gives the impression you're new to selling on Amazon. It's a little bit harder to track repeat offenders if you create a buyer's account first. :) | hi,
i'm not saying this won't work, but in the past when i make accounts, i do make buyer account first and actually buy some things first....i use stealth address (random addresses i find online), and then make it into a seller account, but i do get suspended pretty quickly, 99 percent of the time its for "did not pass review" suspension...
but thanks for sharing what works for you. |
| Rgivens | 07-27-2011 06:14 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by nobody999
(Post 253465)
hi,
i'm not saying this won't work, but in the past when i make accounts, i do make buyer account first and actually buy some things first....i use stealth address (random addresses i find online), and then make it into a seller account, but i do get suspended pretty quickly, 99 percent of the time its for "did not pass review" suspension...
but thanks for sharing what works for you. | If it's for "did not pass review" then you're probably doing something either illegal, or against Amazon's policies.. |
| nobody999 | 07-27-2011 06:24 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Rgivens
(Post 253467)
If it's for "did not pass review" then you're probably doing something either illegal, or against Amazon's policies.. | hi, no nothing illegal at all or against amazon policies that i can think of ...
i'll give it a go and see if it'll work
thanks |
| Rgivens | 07-27-2011 06:56 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by nobody999
(Post 253469)
hi, no nothing illegal at all or against amazon policies that i can think of ...
i'll give it a go and see if it'll work
thanks | No problem.. Just as I've said though.. I have never had a problem other than them linking my previous accounts for me being stupid... hehe.. Good luck my friend! Let me know how it goes.. |
| nobody999 | 07-27-2011 08:03 PM | hi,
i'm able to add a credit card to buyer account, but i don't see the option to add a bank account to the buyer account....
thanks |
| Rgivens | 07-27-2011 08:07 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by nobody999
(Post 253491)
hi,
i'm able to add a credit card to buyer account, but i don't see the option to add a bank account to the buyer account....
thanks | Step 1 has parts that take place in step 2. In other words, step 1 explains what you need in order to create both a buyer and seller account on Amazon. You will need to enter both your VCC and Banking information when you create a seller account. |
| nobody999 | 07-27-2011 08:43 PM | got another question, it seems like i'm not able to just create a seller account without actually trying to list an item....is there a way to open a seller account without listing anything?
thanks |
| Rgivens | 07-27-2011 08:53 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by nobody999
(Post 253496)
got another question, it seems like i'm not able to just create a seller account without actually trying to list an item....is there a way to open a seller account without listing anything?
thanks | Click on the "sell yours here" button and list an item. Then soon after, go into your listings panel and remove the actual listing. I don't think there's a way to create a seller's account without listing something. Just list it, then remove it after. |
| nobody999 | 07-27-2011 08:59 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Rgivens
(Post 253497)
Click on the "sell yours here" button and list an item. Then soon after, go into your listings panel and remove the actual listing. I don't think there's a way to create a seller's account without listing something. Just list it, then remove it after. | ok..i thought that was the only way to make a seller account, but thought you had some other method....
thanks |
| Rgivens | 07-27-2011 09:14 PM | No problem. That's how I've always done it. Doesn't really make a difference, as you can easily remove the item shortly after. :) |
| Road-Kill | 07-27-2011 09:31 PM | You can create a seller account without listing anything.just click on the account link and then click on the seller account link. It will ask you to log-in and gives you the choice or being a new or registered user.
After you click on that, they have a new screen that says" Want to sell something you bought on Amazon". So if someone orders something and then lists the same item for sale, that is a way to look like a legit buyer. |
| Rgivens | 07-28-2011 12:17 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Road-Kill
(Post 253501)
You can create a seller account without listing anything.just click on the account link and then click on the seller account link. It will ask you to log-in and gives you the choice or being a new or registered user.
After you click on that, they have a new screen that says" Want to sell something you bought on Amazon". So if someone orders something and then lists the same item for sale, that is a way to look like a legit buyer. | Yes. That's a good way to look legitimate. But if you remove the item shortly after listing it, Amazon has no way of tracing it. |
| Road-Kill | 07-28-2011 12:27 AM | I didn't really explain what I'm talking about too well, let me try again.
There is a new feature, or a feature I've never seen before anyway, that is linked to any items you have bought on Amazon. If you click on the link it looks up the items you bought and then helps with you listing them for sale. The account I used to test this never bought anything, and Amazon displayed that info and said there was nothing in my history to resell. |
| nobody999 | 07-28-2011 12:30 AM | where can i find that link? |
| Road-Kill | 07-28-2011 12:43 AM | Just click on" Your Account" Then click on "Your Seller Account"
When it asks for your e-mail just say you are a new user. Then put some info in the next screen and it should take you to the page.
I have a link for it too, but the page comes up after you register, so I don't think the link will work without my PW. |
| unfortuantemistake | 07-28-2011 02:11 AM | Creating a buyers account first is pointesss.
You are still unable to disburse your funds for 14 days from when you create a SELLERS account, whether you made a buyers account first or not |
| Rgivens | 07-28-2011 09:44 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by unfortuantemistake
(Post 253541)
Creating a buyers account first is pointesss.
You are still unable to disburse your funds for 14 days from when you create a SELLERS account, whether you made a buyers account first or not | Opinions vary, and I didn't create this thread to argue over a simple fact of such small magnitude. All I'm saying is when you create a buyer's account first, it implies you AREN'T interested in selling on Amazon.com. Which, in turn, tells Amazon you have no idea they offer selling services to the general public. I hear everyone talking about Amazon cracking down by deploying these outrageous tactics to track old members on new accounts. If that's the case, why wouldn't creating a buyer's account first be a good idea?
This post is merely a small process that I've used in the past that has worked flawless for me. Not too many people think about waiting a week or so until they start selling. I was just pointing that out. |
| Road-Kill | 07-28-2011 09:50 AM | There is a point to it, and yes you are right it doesn't get you the money any faster than 14 days. The point is it makes the account look more legit. When Amazon reviews accounts, they can look at your past browsing history on the site.
So if someone just opens up a new account and bamm ,they list a item within a minute or so, they don't look new. They look like someone that was on before and knows what they are doing. If you want to increase the chances of the account passing review, looking like you were first a buyer and became a seller later is a great way to look legit.
The more time and money spent acting like a buyer makes the performance more believable. So if you actually buy something on Amazon, and have the item shipped and then sit on the item a while before you relist it. That will be much more convincing than just going on the site and listing items for sale right away.
You can just do that with one account and still open other accounts in faster ways too. There are lots of other things like this that I do to make my accounts last longer. Most people seem to just discuss what's the fastest and easiest way to get back on. |
| Rgivens | 07-28-2011 10:20 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Road-Kill
(Post 253641)
There is a point to it, and yes you are right it doesn't get you the money any faster than 14 days. The point is it makes the account look more legit. When Amazon reviews accounts, they can look at your past browsing history on the site.
So if someone just opens up a new account and bamm ,they list a item within a minute or so, they don't look new. They look like someone that was on before and knows what they are doing. If you want to increase the chances of the account passing review, looking like you were first a buyer and became a seller later is a great way to look legit.
The more time and money spent acting like a buyer makes the performance more believable. So if you actually buy something on Amazon, and have the item shipped and then sit on the item a while before you relist it. That will be much more convincing than just going on the site and listing items for sale right away.
You can just do that with one account and still open other accounts in faster ways too. There are lots of other things like this that I do to make my accounts last longer. Most people seem to just discuss what's the fastest and easiest way to get back on. | Thank you! Perfect description of what I was trying to explain. Glad to know there's other knowledgeable Amazon sellers out there... |
| slapped | 07-28-2011 11:26 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Rgivens
(Post 253638)
Opinions vary, and I didn't create this thread to argue over a simple fact of such small magnitude. All I'm saying is when you create a buyer's account first, it implies you AREN'T interested in selling on Amazon.com. Which, in turn, tells Amazon you have no idea they offer selling services to the general public. I hear everyone talking about Amazon cracking down by deploying these outrageous tactics to track old members on new accounts. If that's the case, why wouldn't creating a buyer's account first be a good idea?
This post is merely a small process that I've used in the past that has worked flawless for me. Not too many people think about waiting a week or so until they start selling. I was just pointing that out. |
What Exactly are you Hearing and Where from?,,,PM Me if youd Like |
| Rgivens | 07-28-2011 12:01 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by slapped
(Post 253675)
What Exactly are you Hearing and Where from?,,,PM Me if youd Like | Around these forums and in the stealth book. |
I hardly think their tactics are outrageous - just cautious at best. |
| Rgivens | 07-28-2011 12:17 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 253686)
I hardly think their tactics are outrageous - just cautious at best. | That's a bit more consoling than the other stuff I've read. |
| Gamefreak | 07-31-2011 02:36 PM | All this depends on what your selling. I just made a new account for someone 20 days ago. Started selling right away. Added bank account about 7 days later. On day 14 I got an automatic disbursement ( i was surprised as it said to wait 14 days )
Items I sell go for about $68. I sell about 3-5 a day. I havent have any limitation on the account as of yet. Made 3 disbursement so far. 240, 722, 1900 ( two days ago )
I know how to get feedback. I sold 17 items in first few days got 4 feedback.
If you're a new seller feedback a key step to passing reviews and limitation off the bat.
Your logic about the buyers account thing wouldn't work for most of us as its difficult to act like true "new sellers".
I know when I started selling on amazon I did a ton of research as I knew NOTHING. Which is how most new sellers act. Spent probably 2 hours searching the help section for basics like how to put logo, bank account, return policy, feedback etc..
There isn't 1 or 2 strategies that works for amazon its all about trial an error catered to what you sell and how you go about selling what you sell. :juggle: |
Your method works but I would not go off and say the books are worthless. The Am az on and eb ay stealth guides bring up the essence of methodology to create UNLINKED accounts.
Not how to buy and sell but just how to create - that's the important part. |
| robsut | 08-01-2011 04:28 PM | Hi, i can say amazon Ghost and ebay stealth are a little different when you read as i have both stealth guides they give you all the info you need to get back on both sites as sellers and under stealth, (Remember as Sellers and Under Stealth only, not to mature your accounts), i have 5 ebay accounts on the go but rarely use them as i sell mostly on amazon and have 9 of these 6 of them can sell any amount and as many as i want, been through as many as 4 reviews with some, they always pass, read the amazon ghost and it will tell you how to pass them and it works, as with mine. Amazon is always about trial and error, find out your own limits as what you can sell, i know mine, the amount you can sell and over a certain period and how much. it takes alot of hard work but everyone's is different that is what makes amazon what it is, amazon is great, alot easier than ebay, but it takes hard work, dont expect the answers in this forum, but you will get tips, if unsure contact Aspkin for more info, buy Amazon Ghost. Quote:
Originally Posted by Rgivens
(Post 254754)
You will agree eBay and Amazon stealth are single books with a step-by-step process, correct?
If you agreed to the above, you just contradicted everything you said in your prior post. Why? Because you clearly stated: "There isn't 1 or 2 strategies that works for amazon its all about trial an error catered to what you sell and how you go about selling what you sell."
If this is true, the Amazon and eBay stealth books are worthless, as they only offer 1 strategy for how to create a new account.
The steps I listed initially for this post are exactly how ANYONE should go about selling anything on Amazon, regardless of past experiences. If you don't agree, go back and see what you did differently; then let me know how I can improve my strategy.
Thanks. | |
| Road-Kill | 08-01-2011 06:00 PM | Getting on is the easy part. Staying on and keeping the buyers happy and still make a profit is the hard part. The more $$$ you run thru the account, the more solid the base needs to be. The Op's ideas might work for micro accounts, but are worthless for a solid account. |
| Rgivens | 08-01-2011 11:47 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Road-Kill
(Post 254861)
Getting on is the easy part. Staying on and keeping the buyers happy and still make a profit is the hard part. The more $$$ you run thru the account, the more solid the base needs to be. The Op's ideas might work for micro accounts, but are worthless for a solid account. | The only possible way to establish longevity in an Amazon account is to sell items that aren't considered a high risk to buyers. If you're selling books compared to software, your account is obviously going to last longer if it's hit with a negative feedback. Amazon knows software, electronics and other popular goods can be counterfeited, whereas books are prized for originality.
My post was designed to help people get back on Amazon. Not to teach them selling strategies. |
| Road-Kill | 08-02-2011 01:08 AM | FYI there are all sorts of successful Amazon sellers on here, and there are hundreds of threads covering Amazon in the free and subscribed sections. I don't think you posted anything most people don't know already, but if you think you did, or you actually did more power to you.
You can read the other threads if you want. I don't have a problem pointing out some of the drawbacks to this set-up if you prefer, and I'm sure a lot of other people can as well if the mood strikes them. |
| Gamefreak | 08-02-2011 02:29 AM | you said it road-kill but rather not get into all that as its pretty useless... | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:45 PM. | |
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