Consequitive IP addresses

[adventmma]

Hi, guys...

I have access to 2 sets of Static IP addresses. Each set is provided by a different cable account, so the IP addresses between the two sets are completely different. However, each set consists of consequtive numbers. Something like that:

Set 1 addresses ranging from 229.xxx.xxx.45 to 229.xxx.xxx.48
Set 2 addresses ranging from xxx.121.xxx.11 to xxx.121.xxx.15

The good thing is that all these IP addresses are brand new, totally clean, and have never been used for any selling activity (stealth or otherwise).

Is it safe to set up separate stealth accounts across a consequtive range of IP's, such as xxx.45, xxx.46, xxx.47, xxx.48? Or would this still raise a red flag?

Additionally, would it raise a red flag if...
* items sold from these accounts happen to be the same or similar in nature
* the stealth addresses on accounts happen to be within the same zipcode
* (different) bank accounts from the SAME bank
* etc

In other words, given the situation, if all proper stealth practices are observed, would the IP addresses being so close to each other ever be a cause for concern? What factor(s) should I vary to mix things up sufficiently enough to keep things on the safe side? Thanks in advance.

[aspkin]

Doesn't sound like Static IP address if you're able to change it..

Is it safe to set up separate stealth accounts across a consequtive range of IP's, such as xxx.45, xxx.46, xxx.47, xxx.48? Or would this still raise a red flag?

It's fine for eBay/PayPal. They're not at the level of Amazon when it comes to tracking and linking ranges of IP addresses. PayPal seems to do this but they don't take action against an account unless it's something like paying yourself.

[adventmma]

Originally Posted by aspkin

Doesn't sound like Static IP address if you're able to change it..

Thanks for answering, admin. But I need to clarify. I'm not able to change these IP addresses. A residential cable account comes with a single dynamic IP address, but when signing up for a business cable account, for an additional cost you have the option to buy a block of 5, 13, or 21 Static IP addresses. That's what I have; 2 business cable accounts. Each account comes with a block of static IP's. I was just wondering if the fact that they are consecutive (differing only by a single last digit) might cause a possible link under the conditions I outline in my original post.

Originally Posted by aspkin

It's fine for eBay/PayPal. They're not at the level of Amazon when it comes to tracking and linking ranges of IP addresses. PayPal seems to do this but they don't take action against an account unless it's something like paying yourself.

Well, my situation allows me to place each account on a separate static IP. So, you're saying Amazon if more strict about IP's. OK, then if I open 5 Amazon Stealth accounts and keep each of them on a separate static IP, should I be concerned if these 5 IPs only differ by a single digit (the last digit)? Thanks.

[aspkin]

The rules are different depending on the platform.. you posted here: Paypal & eBay Linking - eBay Suspension & Paypal Limited Forums

I only mentioned Amazon just to give an example. I would not suggest this setup for Amazon, for eBay/PayPal it's fine however.

[adventmma]

Originally Posted by aspkin

The rules are different depending on the platform.. you posted here: Paypal & eBay Linking - eBay Suspension & Paypal Limited Forums

I only mentioned Amazon just to give an example. I would not suggest this setup for Amazon, for eBay/PayPal it's fine however.

Thanks for answering so promptly. I got you... For Amazon, the IP's are too close to each other to risk it. But I suppose it's pretty safe to squeeze at least two Amazon Stealth accounts from this, no? The two business accounts offer IP blocks that are completely different from each other. For example:

29.144.184.45.....49
72.80.120.151.....155

I could pick one from each block, and that should provide plenty of separation, right?

[adventmma]

Aspkin, I also have a side question. I understand that Amazon also digs for your MAC address, and I know how to get around it (I have 4- and 6-port network cards installed).

We can all check to see what is our current public IP address by going to myIPaddress.com: What is my IP address? How do I find my IP address? or some other similar site. But is there a website that could also demonstratively reveal my MAC address? I found one, but they don't seem to work.

[aspkin]

Originally Posted by adventmma

Thanks for answering so promptly. I got you... For Amazon, the IP's are too close to each other to risk it. But I suppose it's pretty safe to squeeze at least two Amazon Stealth accounts from this, no? The two business accounts offer IP blocks that are completely different from each other. For example:

29.144.184.45.....49
72.80.120.151.....155

I could pick one from each block, and that should provide plenty of separation, right?

Yep, that'll work.

[aspkin]

Originally Posted by adventmma

Aspkin, I also have a side question. I understand that Amazon also digs for your MAC address, and I know how to get around it (I have 4- and 6-port network cards installed).

We can all check to see what is our current public IP address by going to myIPaddress.com: What is my IP address? How do I find my IP address? or some other similar site. But is there a website that could also demonstratively reveal my MAC address? I found one, but they don't seem to work.

The notion of MAC address tracking is being revised. I'd be more concerned about creating genuine and UNIQUE account(s) first. Remember while eBay and PayPal automate a lot of their linking and suspending of accounts making it predictable, Amazon on the other hand does manual reviews of sellers. On top of that they utilize tools that track hundreds of different factors which Amazon Ghost covers pretty well. There are websites that can show your MAC address but as long as you're following Amazon Ghost as far as browser fingerprinting goes, I don't see this being a concern for you.

[JRaynor101]

Originally Posted by aspkin

Doesn't sound like static IP address if you're able to change it..



It's fine for eBay/PayPal. They're not at the level of Amazon when it comes to tracking and linking ranges of IP addresses. PayPal seems to do this but they don't take action against an account unless it's something like paying yourself.

Wait, really? I use paypal to send myself money all the time. It's pretty convenient for a fast international transfer.

[aspkin]

Originally Posted by JRaynor101

Wait, really? I use paypal to send myself money all the time. It's pretty convenient for a fast international transfer.

It depends on how you do it, how well you cover your tracks otherwise there is a chance of accidentally linking this way.

[JRaynor101]

It's impossible to stealth in Japan thanks to banking regulations, and my UK one isn't exactly stealth... I log into both, all the time, from the same set of computers / IPs and the name (but obviously not banks and addresses) match.

I've been doing it for years.

[aspkin]

Originally Posted by JRaynor101

It's impossible to stealth in Japan thanks to banking regulations, and my UK one isn't exactly stealth... I log into both, all the time, from the same set of computers / IPs and the name (but obviously not banks and addresses) match.

I've been doing it for years.

Okay, we'll they're linked already and you have nothing to worry about.

[rsot]

@JRaynor, banks in Japan wont allow deposits in stealth names?

[JRaynor101]

Originally Posted by rsot

@JRaynor, banks in Japan wont allow deposits in stealth names?

100% impossible. Both my name in latin script and Japanese writing has got to match exactly, down to capitals else it's refused.

To open a bank account in Japan, including a paypal account, you need two forms of ID showing address and yes, the name has got to match exactly. It also requires a trip to the bank to sign/stamp papers and declarations, or in the case of Paypal a phone call to the tax office and Paypal themselves saying what it's for before they mail the papers to me for me to sign/stamp.

[TonyAlmeida]

Originally Posted by JRaynor101

100% impossible. Both my name in latin script and Japanese writing has got to match exactly, down to capitals else it's refused.

To open a bank account in Japan, including a paypal account, you need two forms of ID showing address and yes, the name has got to match exactly. It also requires a trip to the bank to sign/stamp papers and declarations, or in the case of Paypal a phone call to the tax office and Paypal themselves saying what it's for before they mail the papers to me for me to sign/stamp.

Wow, that's tough.

[An0nym0u$]

Originally Posted by JRaynor101

100% impossible. Both my name in latin script and Japanese writing has got to match exactly, down to capitals else it's refused.

To open a bank account in Japan, including a paypal account, you need two forms of ID showing address and yes, the name has got to match exactly. It also requires a trip to the bank to sign/stamp papers and declarations, or in the case of Paypal a phone call to the tax office and Paypal themselves saying what it's for before they mail the papers to me for me to sign/stamp.

Goodness. Hope those rules won't make it over this way.

[Futuremogul888]

Originally Posted by JRaynor101

100% impossible. Both my name in latin script and Japanese writing has got to match exactly, down to capitals else it's refused.

To open a bank account in Japan, including a paypal account, you need two forms of ID showing address and yes, the name has got to match exactly. It also requires a trip to the bank to sign/stamp papers and declarations, or in the case of Paypal a phone call to the tax office and Paypal themselves saying what it's for before they mail the papers to me for me to sign/stamp.

How about business accounts. Create a business paypal account and open a business bank account. Then the names should match.

[JRaynor101]

Originally Posted by An0nym0u$

Goodness. Hope those rules won't make it over this way.

The terrifying thing is the details on the contents of any bank account - Paypal included - are 100% transparent to the tax office.

On the plus side, no-one ever has to do tax returns in Japan.

[TonyAlmeida]

How people paying their Tax???

[rsot]

Originally Posted by JRaynor101

The terrifying thing is the details on the contents of any bank account - Paypal included - are 100% transparent to the tax office.

On the plus side, no-one ever has to do tax returns in Japan.

Hmm, no tax?

Japan Personal Income Tax Rate | Actual Data | Forecasts | Calendar

[JRaynor101]

No, no, there's plenty tax paid on all the usual suspects as in any other country.

No one has to do tax returns, though. Income tax is deducted at source and residence (municipal) taxes are calculated for you and sent to you yearly to pay. There's exceptions to this, if you're the head of a business, earn a lot 'under the table' or earn in excess of 20 million a year.

[rsot]

Ah ok thanks for clarification JRaynor.

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