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shoffice 04-28-2015 12:29 PM

Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anything ?
 
1. New name and address.
2. Same computer but New user name on Windows (is that enough?)
3. Same Router+Modem (the modem and router are all in one) but I change to a new IP address.
4. New VCC, New bank account.
5. New email address and phone number.


Am I missing anything ???

Want to make sure that if I use the same computer and same modem+router it's still OK ?

sln531 04-28-2015 12:32 PM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shoffice (Post 664050)
1. New name and address.
2. Same computer but New user name on Windows (is that enough?)
3. Same Router+Modem (the modem and router are all in one) but I change to a new IP address.
4. New VCC, New bank account.
5. New email address and phone number.


Am I missing anything ???

Want to make sure that if I use the same computer and same modem+router it's still OK ?

You have pretty much covered everything basically! Except for your forgetting one thing! Have Fun :thumb:

sln531 04-28-2015 12:34 PM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Yes, you can still keep the same modem and router just make positively sure you keep a log of your IP address and that is completely different from the one you have used before that's it.

mufc365 04-28-2015 05:34 PM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Turn your flash cookies off and change your browser fingerprinting. Also any emails you open ensure you turn the images off.

You've pretty much covered everything but just to be on the safe side do the above. And ensure your IP address is completely different to the one that was suspended. Good luck

Taking The Micky 04-29-2015 04:15 AM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
thats fine, whoever I always use different bowser, say "opera"

mufc365 04-29-2015 12:17 PM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Opera, Mozilla Firefox, Safari and google chrome to name a few

barrycruan 04-29-2015 01:28 PM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mufc365 (Post 664118)
Turn your flash cookies off and change your browser fingerprinting. Also any emails you open ensure you turn the images off.

You've pretty much covered everything but just to be on the safe side do the above. And ensure your IP address is completely different to the one that was suspended. Good luck

None of this is required. The whole point of using a different operating system is to avoid cookies and as discussed Countless times amazon do not employ browser fingerprinting. You also do not need to turn pictures off for Amazon. This is an ebay tactic and not necessary.

hcomics 04-29-2015 02:03 PM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Stay focused with some Death Wish coffee.

sln531 04-29-2015 02:22 PM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hcomics (Post 664435)
Stay focused with some Death Wish coffee.


Hey now that's not a bad idea must have seen my thread about it :ranger:

mufc365 04-29-2015 05:13 PM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
This is an ebay tactic and not necessary.[/QUOTE]

If this is a eBay tactic you don't think Amazon can trace it seeing as they are far more strict than eBay. The stealth book mentions browser fingerprinting which is why I am mentioning it. I know it's less likely but I am trying to eliminate any chance of Amazon linkage!

barrycruan 04-29-2015 08:37 PM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mufc365 (Post 664474)
This is an ebay tactic and not necessary.

If this is a eBay tactic you don't think Amazon can trace it seeing as they are far more strict than eBay. The stealth book mentions browser fingerprinting which is why I am mentioning it. I know it's less likely but I am trying to eliminate any chance of Amazon linkage![/QUOTE]

No I don't think. I 100% know Amazon don't use this, because if they did all my accounts would be suspended.

shoffice 05-01-2015 03:36 AM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
So there is no need to disable anything like Networks Adapters or anything like it's says on Amazon Ghost ?
Only new IP that completely different is enough even I'm using the same Router/Modem with the same network adapter ?

shoffice 05-03-2015 01:28 PM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barrycruan (Post 664531)
If this is a eBay tactic you don't think Amazon can trace it seeing as they are far more strict than eBay. The stealth book mentions browser fingerprinting which is why I am mentioning it. I know it's less likely but I am trying to eliminate any chance of Amazon linkage!

No I don't think. I 100% know Amazon don't use this, because if they did all my accounts would be suspended.[/QUOTE]

So there is no need to disable anything like Networks Adapters or anything like it's says on the Amazon Ghost ?
Only new IP (completely different) is enough even I'm using the same Router/Modem with the same network adapter ?

elmo 05-03-2015 02:33 PM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mufc365 (Post 664474)
This is an ebay tactic and not necessary.

If this is a eBay tactic you don't think Amazon can trace it seeing as they are far more strict than eBay. The stealth book mentions browser fingerprinting which is why I am mentioning it. I know it's less likely but I am trying to eliminate any chance of Amazon linkage!

Browser fingerprinting is big for amazon, do not under estimate them.

Its extremely rare but I have had accounts linked that shared no similar information, with the only difference being separate user accounts with separate VPNs.

Especially if 1 account is under a review, while creating a new account.

mufc365 05-03-2015 02:48 PM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
@ Elmono Glad you said that. Some people on here get a little excited because they've learned a few tricks and have a disregard for what's written in the stealth book.

shoffice 05-04-2015 07:45 AM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elmono (Post 665605)
Browser fingerprinting is big for amazon, do not under estimate them.

Its extremely rare but I have had accounts linked that shared no similar information, with the only difference being separate user accounts with separate VPNs.

Especially if 1 account is under a review, while creating a new account.

So how should I avoid browser fingerprinting ?
New user account at the same computer is not enough ?
What do you do in your accounts ?

TonyAlmeida 05-04-2015 09:19 AM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shoffice (Post 664050)
1. New name and address.
2. Same computer but New user name on Windows (is that enough?)
3. Same Router+Modem (the modem and router are all in one) but I change to a new IP address.
4. New VCC, New bank account.
5. New email address and phone number.


Am I missing anything ???

Want to make sure that if I use the same computer and same modem+router it's still OK ?

1. Don't use family/friend name and address
2. OK. I just used a different browser.
3. As long as you get a new IP you are good
4. Some VCC work, some don't. Same as bank account
5. OK but stay away from Google voice, Pinger, Text Plus......

shoffice 05-04-2015 03:42 PM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida (Post 665876)
1. Don't use family/friend name and address
2. OK. I just used a different browser.
3. As long as you get a new IP you are good
4. Some VCC work, some don't. Same as bank account
5. OK but stay away from Google voice, Pinger, Text Plus......



Why not using friend name and address ?
What name and address should I use ?

TonyAlmeida 05-04-2015 05:58 PM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
You don't want to burn their account/info with Amazon. What happen if they decide to sale on Amazon later. You screw them

barrycruan 05-04-2015 08:35 PM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mufc365 (Post 665608)
@ Elmono Glad you said that. Some people on here get a little excited because they've learned a few tricks and have a disregard for what's written in the stealth book.

Quite the opposite. A lot of people spout things what is said in the stealth book and haven't got a clue what they are talking about having never looked into the subject.

The stealth book is a tool. Plenty of things in it are not relevant Such as MAC addresses which everyone said Amazon 100% tracked because it's in the book.

Amazon 100% do not use browser fingerprinting to link seller accounts. This is just another Another "my account was suspended I will guess what it was" myth.

If they employ browser finger printing, I and every other person who uses an iPad/ iPhone to run multiple accounts would be suspended. I've never lost a single account and run them all from 1 iPad and an iPhone using the same browser.

Elmo also said they switched user accounts. If this is the case they would have a unique browser fingerprint anyway.

If you don't believe me test it yourself.
https://panopticlick.eff.org/

shoffice 05-05-2015 08:51 AM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barrycruan (Post 666074)
Quite the opposite. A lot of people spout things what is said in the stealth book and haven't got a clue what they are talking about having never looked into the subject.

The stealth book is a tool. Plenty of things in it are not relevant Such as MAC addresses which everyone said Amazon 100% tracked because it's in the book.

Amazon 100% do not use browser fingerprinting to link seller accounts. This is just another Another "my account was suspended I will guess what it was" myth.

If they employ browser finger printing, I and every other person who uses an iPad/ iPhone to run multiple accounts would be suspended. I've never lost a single account and run them all from 1 iPad and an iPhone using the same browser.

Elmo also said they switched user accounts. If this is the case they would have a unique browser fingerprint anyway.

If you don't believe me test it yourself.
https://panopticlick.eff.org/

So how do you create NEW Amazon seller account ?
What is your process ?

Not changing computer ? not create new user account on the computer ?

TonyAlmeida 05-05-2015 09:05 AM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shoffice (Post 666207)
So how do you create NEW Amazon seller account ?
What is your process ?

Not changing computer ? not create new user account on the computer ?

I run many eBay/Amazon account on the same PC with out create new user account with out any problem

RosieTosie 05-05-2015 09:24 AM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shoffice (Post 666207)
So how do you create NEW Amazon seller account ?
What is your process ?

Not changing computer ? not create new user account on the computer ?


Just create a new user account shoffice, always the best way especially when you are at the beginning of the stealth process and don't have the years of experience with stealth that many forum members have. No risk of linking that way.

barrycruan 05-05-2015 11:50 AM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
What Rosie says is probably the best thing to do if you are unsure.

But since I'd dint explain fully to set up a new account I simply get my iPad out. Change the IP by plugging out the router and then go into settings for safari and clear website history and data. As far as set up that is all I do and I've never lost an account from linking. That's my hardware set up.

There's a lot of rubbish and fear mongering talked about Amazon stealth when plenty of people know how easy it is to set up an account. I do understand if people want to take precautions although in my opinion and experience these are the only ones needed.

shoffice 05-17-2015 06:24 AM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida (Post 666208)
I run many eBay/Amazon account on the same PC with out create new user account with out any problem

What is your process and how do you use the same pc for ,multiply account without create a new user accounts ?

BangkokBetty 05-25-2015 04:30 AM

Re: Before I create New Amazon Stealth Account - Please tell me if I'm missing anythi
 
Endicia works fine for me.


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