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MrPorter 09-01-2015 12:54 AM

Stealth name, need advice
 
Hello,

I am making a Amazon Stealth account in Europeab market. Perhaps you could take a look at my perception of Stealth mechanism. I am confused about the Identity aspect of Stealth.

As far as i know, the drill is: (correct me if its wrong)
1, Everything is is new [CORE].
2, I use completely made up name for*Amazon Stealth*acc
3, And my real name for banking.
4, I am going to open an LLC or Ltd, and name it according the Stealth account person name ie Mr. Thomas Smith LLC [as far as I was informed Amazon is now asking for business information if you want to sell bigger amounts]
4, I will open a bank account under my personal info [in one of a recommended banks in this forum]
5, Amazon will transfer payments under a stealth name to my personal bank account.
6, Bank wont care about, so I dont worry...
7, When time comes to prove my identity, address etc. I contact someone who can help me or ask my friend photoshop for help.


What bothers me is:
1. proving identity which doesnt exist - law issues
2. creating a company which can be tracked and real owner found*


p.s. Yes, I have searched the forum, i found number of threads in regards to this topic but people just scratch the surface. I havent found an in depth discussion about it.*


Thank you in advance

MrPorter 09-01-2015 12:55 AM

Re: Stealth name, need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
Hi :)

1 - Good
2 - Good
3 - Good
4 - They would still be able to see the reason Ltd directors info and DOB
5 - Thats fine
6 - Correct
7 - Hopefully!

1 - Its just supplying Amazon with a made up name. Like signing upto facebook with made up details. Nothing wrong there
2 - That is something you may need to look into more

Yes you can open a thread RE this

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Ebayorbust 09-01-2015 01:41 AM

Re: Stealth name, need advice
 
Yes, all looks fine and I'd agree with what James has said.

I'd personally not bother with a Ltd company if it is just for trading on Amazon. The "sole trader" route is probably better as there are no "company records" held that can be investigated.

MrPorter 09-01-2015 04:49 AM

Re: Stealth name, need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 700405)
Yes, all looks fine and I'd agree with what James has said.

I'd personally not bother with a Ltd company if it is just for trading on Amazon. The "sole trader" route is probably better as there are no "company records" held that can be investigated.

Fair enough.
  1. Lets say I am starting to make a lot of money on Amazon. Arent they going to ask me register a business and change account type to business?
  2. Another thing, at some point they will ask me to prove the identity, address and bank account. I will need to send Amazon the documents. And after that the line of just a made up name will be crossed. I am talking about legal issues here. This is what concerns me the most.

Ebayorbust 09-01-2015 04:57 AM

Re: Stealth name, need advice
 
1. Acting as a sole trader is a business.

2. If you have concerns, don't do it.

MrPorter 09-01-2015 07:12 AM

Re: Stealth name, need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 700458)

2. If you have concerns, don't do it.

No. Thats not how it works. I want to understand what I am getting myself into.

Ebayorbust 09-01-2015 07:27 AM

Re: Stealth name, need advice
 
You'd be best to seek legal advice if you are looking for a definitive answer because you're wanting to discuss something that is a seriously "grey" area.

dealagreeproceed 09-01-2015 07:27 AM

Re: Stealth name, need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPorter (Post 700490)
No. Thats not how it works. I want to understand what I am getting myself into.

:doh::doh::doh::smash:

Bul 09-01-2015 10:50 AM

Re: Stealth name, need advice
 
⊗⊗⊗⊗ a government documents ( i.e ID) is a crime in every country. And the purpose does not matter.

MrPorter 09-01-2015 11:26 AM

Re: Stealth name, need advice
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bul (Post 700537)
⊗⊗⊗⊗ a government documents ( i.e ID) is a crime in every country. And the purpose does not matter.


No way, rly? :mod:

To clarify I want to make sure if this plan:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrPorter (Post 700390)
1, Everything is is new [CORE].
2, I use completely made up name for*Amazon Stealth*acc
3, And my real name for banking.
4, I am going to open an LLC or Ltd, and name it according the Stealth account person name ie Mr. Thomas Smith LLC [as far as I was informed Amazon is now asking for business information if you want to sell bigger amounts]
4, I will open a bank account under my personal info [in one of a recommended banks in this forum]
5, Amazon will transfer payments under a stealth name to my personal bank account.
6, Bank wont care about, so I dont worry...
7, When time comes to prove my identity, address etc. I contact someone who can help me or ask my friend photoshop for help.

is based on what every Amazon Stealth account is built. I am aware that I am discussing "grey" area here, but thats how the Stealth Accounts are built?

MrPorter 09-02-2015 07:09 AM

Re: Stealth name, need advice
 
Moment of truth.

I was asking about the "proving documentation" part so much, because I thought that Amazon is always ask for it at some point, no matter what.

I was thinking this way because, when I changed my bank info on my current account Amazon instantly notified me to upload proving documents.

So I started thinking that stealth account doesnt work without faking documents at some point.


Some people helped me to figure it out, that if the Amazon account is in a good condition, Amazon wont ask to prove anything.

And now I understand what @JamesNorth101 meant by:

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
1 - Its just supplying Amazon with a made up name. Like signing upto facebook with made up details. Nothing wrong there


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Bul 09-03-2015 05:48 PM

Re: Stealth name, need advice
 
From my experience , every new account in the european marketplace is being asked for documents now.


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