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Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Several accounts of mine keep getting suspended for this reason Code:
We reviewed your account and the information you provided, and we have decided that you may not sell on Amazon.com. Due to the nature of our business, we do not provide details on our investigation methods.
If we determine that a seller account was used to engage in fraud or other illegal activity, we may permanently withhold payments. Therefore, we do not plan to transfer any funds to you.
We may not respond to further emails about this issue.
I believe those VCC's I buy cause this issue? otherwise I don't understand the issue here? I don't engage in fraud nothing just a regular seller.. I honestly don't get their problem. I am pretty sure it's something with the VCC
anyone else experienced this on stealth accs? |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-30-2016 01:13 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
What makes you think its to do with the card? |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 815189)
What makes you think its to do with the card?
| Because I have several stealths each time I request distrubement for my money to be sent usually they send email saying ur cc invalid I am pretty sure they always charge small amount to make its valid I had updated the cc on this acc just yesterday which I bought another vcc and now I can't login today however my distrubement went thru but also several of my accounts get close same reason I am sure its the cc
they aren't dumb matterfact all the cc I buy from a seller on this forum all has same bin the 6 starting number |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
I am asking if anyone experienced this and hasn't done anything wrong? because I done nothing wrong you tell me what else it can be? I had no bad feedback nothing just a regular seller |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Where did you get this card from, the forum Marketplace or something your sourced yourself?
Amazon across the pond are very strict on the cards they choose to accept, I assume its the same where you are? |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Quote:
Originally Posted by Play
(Post 815195)
Where did you get this card from, the forum Marketplace or something your sourced yourself?
Amazon across the pond are very strict on the cards they choose to accept, I assume its the same where you are?
| I buy from bjammin its always amex and same bin also its new cc everytime he provide otherwise theyd have told me closed for linked I am postive the cc are the problem |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-30-2016 01:26 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
OK so the card you have added as a VCC isn't working for the disbursement charge by the sounds of it
It may be worth PMing the card seller |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 815199)
OK so the card you have added as a VCC isn't working for the disbursement charge by the sounds of it
It may be worth PMing the card seller
| I had bought new vcc from him and added to the acc and it workd I already got the money they sent but today I cant login I always buy vcc from this guy and he has done nothing but been a great seller towards me not blaming him but lost all my stealths now each one got closed at different times and dates |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 815199)
OK so the card you have added as a VCC isn't working for the disbursement charge by the sounds of it
It may be worth PMing the card seller
| Basically they charge the vcc empty it out everytime almost everytime they sent a new disbursement until cc is $0 probably and then it goes for a review and its easy to know its vcc for amazon |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-30-2016 01:31 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Amazon will know its a VCC from the BIN. The charge won't be what gives that way
You do need to make sure that the card always has funds on it. If the charge fails then the disbursement will also fail |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Its very unlikely that the issue is due to the VCC
More likely is they found a link to your other Amazon accounts. It could have been selling the same items / or other more common ways of linking. |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-30-2016 02:07 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Quote:
Originally Posted by elmo
(Post 815216)
Its very unlikely that the issue is due to the VCC
More likely is they found a link to your other Amazon accounts. It could have been selling the same items / or other more common ways of linking.
| That would be my guess as well. The VCC seller will be able to sell you if anyone else has had an issue with those VCCs or if its just your accounts being effected in which case linking is the most likely cause. |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Quote:
Originally Posted by elmo
(Post 815216)
Its very unlikely that the issue is due to the VCC
More likely is they found a link to your other Amazon accounts. It could have been selling the same items / or other more common ways of linking.
| No.. there's no link if there even was they'd have told me closed for linked accounts very obvious and I know how to keep them not linked I am not stupid.
Also if there was linked they'd have closed all accounts at once I had other account running for months none of my accounts were closed same time or date or week.
Also my first very own account that was established that was back in the days when I had only 1 account was also closed for this reason after I had added vcc from the same seller to my established account remember back then this was my one and only account...
What I am telling everyone is the issue I am sure you can ask me any question and I will be happy to respond so we can all agree on this |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Also I have about 2 accs with legit cc and they are doing just fine.. one of them suspended for some problem but did not get closed or anything crazy like that for such reason |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
anyone have idea or want to make comment? |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-30-2016 03:12 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
You really do need to PM the VCC seller
He will be the best person as previously mentioned to tell you if this issue is just related to your or its widespread.
If its the former then it will be something to do with account creation or the way that the accounts are run |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 815251)
You really do need to PM the VCC seller
He will be the best person as previously mentioned to tell you if this issue is just related to your or its widespread.
If its the former then it will be something to do with account creation or the way that the accounts are run
| I did contact and he said nobody reported problems for his card
but i am pretty sure it is not blaming the seller however just the card bin or something.. I mean what else if linked as I stated above they'd close all same time same not after WEEKS or MONTHS and even tell me that they found linked accs confirm me on this? |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-30-2016 03:20 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
If you are the only one using this BIN that is having an issue then it is very very likely that its something to do with the way the accounts are run or the way they were created |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 815258)
If you are the only one using this BIN that is having an issue then it is very very likely that its something to do with the way the accounts are run or the way they were created
| all his ccs have same bin the bin is the starting 6 digits of the cc if anyone dont know and i dont what elseit could be because i dont even sell anything similar or related and create them regulary gvoice and bjammins vcc's
i'd really appreciate if anyone has any answer for this.. because if it happens now it happens again however i am very sure it is the vcc and you have a reason why to believe that if you read earlier post |
| yankee | 11-30-2016 03:25 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
I did not read everything above but I am guessing you sell the same UPS coded items. Gets linked this time of year especially if you are the cheapest seller. |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 815261)
I did not read everything above but I am guessing you sell the same UPS coded items. Gets linked this time of year especially if you are the cheapest seller.
| as said no account have been closed same time neither same week.
and I barely listed same items on the accounts |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-30-2016 03:29 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Really worth reading over this thread again... To summarise
All of the sellers VCCs buyers are not having issues apart from yours accounts.
All the VCCs use the same BIN therefor everyone should have the same issue if they are all using the same VCC BIN
If it was the VCC with this BIN then other people using this same BIN would be having the same issues.
Therefor logic dictates that since your the only one having the issue with the VCC using this BIN then its not likely that it is the VCC. It means its likely something your doing to cause these issues so you really need to go over your method with a toothcomb to work out what. |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 815263)
Really worth reading over this thread again... To summarise
All of the sellers VCCs buyers are not having issues apart from yours accounts.
All the VCCs use the same BIN therefor everyone should have the same issue if they are all using the same VCC BIN
If it was the VCC with this BIN then other people using this same BIN would be having the same issues.
Therefor logic dictates that since your the only one having the issue with the VCC using this BIN then its not likely that it is the VCC. It means its likely something your doing to cause these issues so you really need to go over your method with a toothcomb to work out what.
| So you think it's something to do with linked acc? as I said if so amazon would've said that clearly and all the accounts or even just two closed at same time however no accounts were closed under the same week. http://www.aspkin.com/forums/amazon/...suspended.html
take look at this thread if you think linked |
| e2free | 11-30-2016 03:34 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
This can't be due to linked account otherwise they normally say in the email it's something to do with your account or maybe vcc seems some serious issue |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-30-2016 03:53 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
It could well be one of many other things. I am just pointing out that its unlikely its the VCC that is the sole cause of this as other people would have also reported issued. |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesNorth101
(Post 815273)
It could well be one of many other things. I am just pointing out that its unlikely its the VCC that is the sole cause of this as other people would have also reported issued.
| Well could you ask me questions so I can respond incase it was something else? |
| JamesNorth101 | 11-30-2016 04:01 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Its really down to you to go over your methods step by step and try to work it out.
Going over everything it would take a very long time potentially
You know how you make and run yours accounts so sit down with a bit of paper and then write out all your steps and see if anything jumps out at you |
| bjammin | 11-30-2016 04:03 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Me and OP have been talking on skype. I think the biggest issue is not knowing why it is happening, so he is looking at similarities (as anyone would do in this case). I have not had anyone else report this issue. The few issues I have had has been more along the lines of "the card is not valid" or something like that. I have been under the understanding that a card would not cause a suspension, but they would simply ask for another card.
If I get another issue like this, I will report it here as well. But, as of right now, I have not had anyone else. Anyone else with any thoughts, please reply.
Thank you
bjammin :) |
| TonyAlmeida | 11-30-2016 04:08 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
I have 1 account using Bjammin test VCC before he offer them in the forum. Just logged to my account and everything is normal. Nothing happen.......yet. |
| frksmth | 11-30-2016 04:57 PM |
Suspended because of these ghost VCC
I buy VCCs from the same seller (bjammin) all the time. Never had any problems. So I don't think it has anything to do with the VCCs. And yes, all the BINs are the same, but i've not had any issues whatsoever. |
| frksmth | 11-30-2016 05:13 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Do you have the option to request for disbursement each time? Also, do you have to keep adding a vcc each time for disbursements? Sounds like that would be a reason for Amazon to suspend the account. Quote:
Originally Posted by asvp
(Post 815193)
Because I have several stealths each time I request distrubement for my money to be sent usually they send email saying ur cc invalid I am pretty sure they always charge small amount to make its valid I had updated the cc on this acc just yesterday which I bought another vcc and now I can't login today however my distrubement went thru but also several of my accounts get close same reason I am sure its the cc
they aren't dumb matterfact all the cc I buy from a seller on this forum all has same bin the 6 starting number
| |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Quote:
Originally Posted by frksmth
(Post 815298)
Do you have the option to request for disbursement each time? Also, do you have to keep adding a vcc each time for disbursements? Sounds like that would be a reason for Amazon to suspend the account.
| Yes I have option to request for disbursement and I dont add vcc everytime just sometimes when I get email saying cant charge |
| TonyAlmeida | 11-30-2016 06:56 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
When you buy VCC, ask seller to leave fund in the account ($5-$10) of course it will cost more but it safe |
| bjammin | 11-30-2016 07:29 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
These vccs keep a $4 balance until expiration. Amazon removes $1 then replaces the $1. There are no monthly fees or maintenance fees due to the fee I have to pay upfront. So nothing else should come out except that $1 from Amazon, which gets refunded back after a few days. But even then, a non sufficient balance would not cause him to get the message he is getting. |
| frksmth | 11-30-2016 07:40 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
I think I've been buying VCCs from you for a very long time. None of the accounts have ever had any issues with disbursement. I get at least 2 disbursements a month on my amazon accounts. So I don't think it has anything to do with the balance either. Seems strange that a VCC could create this issue. I just logeed into all my accounts a little while ago and all of them are fine. Quote:
Originally Posted by bjammin
(Post 815315)
These vccs keep a $4 balance until expiration. Amazon removes $1 then replaces the $1. There are no monthly fees or maintenance fees due to the fee I have to pay upfront. So nothing else should come out except that $1 from Amazon, which gets refunded back after a few days. But even then, a non sufficient balance would not cause him to get the message he is getting.
| |
| serajin | 11-30-2016 08:10 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Have received several VCCs from Bjammin as well, and I haven't had any issues with any cards thus far. I'm also going to guess it must be something else that is being overlooked. |
| nedgraphics | 12-01-2016 12:36 AM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Quote:
Originally Posted by asvp
(Post 815260)
all his ccs have same bin the bin is the starting 6 digits of the cc if anyone dont know and i dont what elseit could be because i dont even sell anything similar or related and create them regulary gvoice and bjammins vcc's
i'd really appreciate if anyone has any answer for this.. because if it happens now it happens again however i am very sure it is the vcc and you have a reason why to believe that if you read earlier post
| Quote:
Originally Posted by asvp
(Post 815204)
Basically they charge the vcc empty it out everytime almost everytime they sent a new disbursement until cc is $0 probably and then it goes for a review and its easy to know its vcc for amazon
|
I don't think it's his VCC issues. none of cards issues. It's your register issue.
I had purchased from him around 1 year and created over 200+ seller accounts using his card.My Seller account is strong.No one got this mail say "was used to engage in fraud or other illegal activity"
if you got that mail. it only shows Amazon had detected that you had multi seller accounts and open in one pc.
if VCC's issues when you register seller account. It will direct says “your register had been decline"
That's the reason I support Bjammim
recently amazon had updated his link technique Old methods to create stealth account are unavailable. You need look for new method to restart.:violin: |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
I have posted this many time now for people who say I got linked..
1. Accounts did not not close under same week time, some even took months running successful there was no account that closed same date or same week.
2. If I was closed because linked account amazon would've CLEARLY said that.
Now answer this. |
| TonyAlmeida | 12-01-2016 12:56 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Quote:
We reviewed your account and the information you provided, and we have decided that you may not sell on Amazon.com. Due to the nature of our business, we do not provide details on our investigation methods.
If we determine that a seller account was used to engage in fraud or other illegal activity, we may permanently withhold payments. Therefore, we do not plan to transfer any funds to you.
We may not respond to further emails about this issue.
| - Linked accounts doesn't mean they will go down at the same time.
- They ONLY send email about your account linked to other when they assume those are good account and give you the option to close one
- With the email you got and the account got deleted just right before/after fund transfer. They suspect you are a stealth account and doing something not right |
| TonyAlmeida | 12-01-2016 01:00 PM |
Re: Suspended because of these ghost VCC
Quote:
Originally Posted by asvp
(Post 815442)
I have posted this many time now for people who say I got linked..
1. Accounts did not not close under same week time, some even took months running successful there was no account that closed same date or same week.
2. If I was closed because linked account amazon would've CLEARLY said that.
Now answer this.
| 1. Linked accounts doesn't mean those accounts will be closed at the same time. It can be at the time you get paid or just after you got the email said they transfer your money.
2. When they suspect you linked to a fraud account they don't even send you anything. Just deleted, can't log-in. |
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