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shalomcity 05-28-2017 12:14 PM

55k with Amazon Gone ! WTF!
 
Hello All, I have several amazon account through ghost entity's. However a new one we created had a lot of sales and the incorrect shipping time set which created having by month 2 we had 55k in a balance set to pay out a few weeks ago. Before we were going to ship the orders on amazon we shipped them in our systems ie pulled them and gave them tracking labels and marked them ship with amazon. However fearful they might pull something wasn't going to ship the orders until amazon paid us on them. We got linked to old account via phone number and got the account suspended. I realize having 55,000 in balance with them was dumb but it got out of control before speed breaks were put in. As of this morning I can't log into the account. Is the money gone? Can we get it back we did ship some orders and fufil the remaining orders after we got paid by amazon. Are we screwed? How can they just take that money! Bezos is scumbag.

PhillyGuy 05-28-2017 01:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shalomcity (Post 849623)
Hello All, I have several amazon account through ghost entity's. However a new one we created had a lot of sales and the incorrect shipping time set which created having by month 2 we had 55k in a balance set to pay out a few weeks ago. Before we were going to ship the orders on amazon we shipped them in our systems ie pulled them and gave them tracking labels and marked them ship with amazon. However fearful they might pull something wasn't going to ship the orders until amazon paid us on them. We got linked to old account via phone number and got the account suspended. I realize having 55,000 in balance with them was dumb but it got out of control before speed breaks were put in. As of this morning I can't log into the account. Is the money gone? Can we get it back we did ship some orders and fufil the remaining orders after we got paid by amazon. Are we screwed? How can they just take that money! Bezos is scumbag.

Damn
That's very sad

If you can't log into your account, it means that your money is gone forever and you can't get it back

That's sad

Why in the hell would you leave $55k in your account ??

james929 05-28-2017 01:50 PM

Re: 55k with Amazon Gone ! WTF!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shalomcity (Post 849623)
Hello All, I have several amazon account through ghost entity's. However a new one we created had a lot of sales and the incorrect shipping time set which created having by month 2 we had 55k in a balance set to pay out a few weeks ago. Before we were going to ship the orders on amazon we shipped them in our systems ie pulled them and gave them tracking labels and marked them ship with amazon. However fearful they might pull something wasn't going to ship the orders until amazon paid us on them. We got linked to old account via phone number and got the account suspended. I realize having 55,000 in balance with them was dumb but it got out of control before speed breaks were put in. As of this morning I can't log into the account. Is the money gone? Can we get it back we did ship some orders and fufil the remaining orders after we got paid by amazon. Are we screwed? How can they just take that money! Bezos is scumbag.

I swear you have some sort of issue every week - I'd like to know what type of things you are selling!!

jakobrockz 05-28-2017 02:01 PM

Re: 55k with Amazon Gone ! WTF!
 
First mistake - that huge amount of sales that fast

second mistake - not immediately shipping the orders

third mistake - phone number as you know

Restart and learn from mistakes.

oompaloompa 05-28-2017 02:09 PM

Re: 55k with Amazon Gone ! WTF!
 
so you shipped some, therefore not all.
So not all the money in the acc is yours, as you did not ship the some goods....suppose that is a good thing for you.
Maybe try a legal letter, worth it for large amount release.

garry9061 05-28-2017 02:49 PM

Re: 55k with Amazon Gone ! WTF!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillyGuy (Post 849635)
Damn
That's very sad

If you can't log into your account, it means that your money is gone forever and you can't get it back

That's sad

Why in the hell would you leave $55k in your account ??

Sorry for my language but please Shut The F*ck Up. This is completely false information and will cause extreme stress to some individuals with 55K in a account. The money can easily be retrieved. DONT SPOUT SH*T INFORMATION.

jakobrockz 05-28-2017 03:21 PM

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Its unlikely though

elmo 05-28-2017 03:24 PM

Re: 55k with Amazon Gone ! WTF!
 
Sorry to hear that, I've seen you bring up similar issues in the past.

Your best bet is to continue to contact them via emails, if you cannot get any resolution within a month or so I would seek legal action.

kev59 05-28-2017 04:15 PM

Re: 55k with Amazon Gone ! WTF!
 
As long as you can provide proof of delivery, you can try getting it back thru a lawyer but NEVER leave that much funds with amazon. Even the good sellers that ship on time can have their accounts deleted for no reason which is why you want spread your inventory across multiple accounts these days. Never make that much on one account. Keep close eye on your sales and never let it get too high. Amazon does not like sellers to make a high amount any more unless you are their Top Top sellers that has been trusted with them for many many years.

PhillyGuy 05-29-2017 05:36 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garry9061 (Post 849654)
Sorry for my language but please Shut The F*ck Up. This is completely false information and will cause extreme stress to some individuals with 55K in a account. The money can easily be retrieved. DONT SPOUT SH*T INFORMATION.

Sorry

I don't talk to dirty kids

oompaloompa 05-29-2017 06:05 AM

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I have heard from couple of forumers that a lawyer can get it released......you ought to know that there is a chance it won't, as that happens too...

rsot 05-29-2017 06:08 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garry9061 (Post 849654)
Sorry for my language but please Shut The F*ck Up. This is completely false information and will cause extreme stress to some individuals with 55K in a account. The money can easily be retrieved. DONT SPOUT SH*T INFORMATION.

Language aside, not sure if "easily be retrieved" is warranted here - while I have not had success getting money from deleted accounts in the past, some people have with constant e-mails - as oompa suggested, even legal counsel might be in order. None of these are that "easy", just saying.

jane 05-29-2017 08:54 AM

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just mention my experience not to judge this case.
i got my funds back after emailing jeff. received email back after 1 week. my account was deleted too at that time.
worth of giving a try. also i know other seller got back funds.
55k, it's a lot hell of money.

garry9061 05-30-2017 11:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 849752)
Language aside, not sure if "easily be retrieved" is warranted here - while I have not had success getting money from deleted accounts in the past, some people have with constant e-mails - as oompa suggested, even legal counsel might be in order. None of these are that "easy", just saying.

Apologies for the language, but seeing people spout crap like that to people who are already anxious, is horrible.

chaichaoyi 05-30-2017 12:16 PM

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I agree with the assessment that the 55K has high chances of being permanently lost, and in the case that it is recoverable, a lot of effort will be required. Of course, this is generalized perception from my limited experience.

Probably someone who has a good track record in "easily" getting money back from deleted Amazon.com accounts should offer his expertise for hire -- it will be very profitable.

htownfanatic 05-30-2017 12:44 PM

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I would contact Ed Rosenberg or Cynthia Stine....google for more research on them. It will cost you but well worth it in my opinion to get 55k

garry9061 05-31-2017 08:48 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chaichaoyi (Post 849981)
I agree with the assessment that the 55K has high chances of being permanently lost, and in the case that it is recoverable, a lot of effort will be required. Of course, this is generalized perception from my limited experience.

Probably someone who has a good track record in "easily" getting money back from deleted Amazon.com accounts should offer his expertise for hire -- it will be very profitable.

Im happy to help for free hence why im on this forum. And as you say you have limited knowledge in this area, so maybe if you have little or no knowledge, maybe you should keep quite.

MM78 05-31-2017 09:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garry9061 (Post 849975)
Apologies for the language, but seeing people spout crap like that to people who are already anxious, is horrible.

Agree, this dude some how now thinks he's an expert in stealth.

MM78 05-31-2017 09:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chaichaoyi (Post 849981)
Probably someone who has a good track record in "easily" getting money back from deleted Amazon.com accounts should offer his expertise for hire -- it will be very profitable.

This forum provides help for free, why did u come to this forum? maybe we need to charge everyone for help now?

chaichaoyi 05-31-2017 09:46 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 850158)
This forum provides help for free, why did u come to this forum? maybe we need to charge everyone for help now?

It's just my way of saying the procedures for getting the money back from deleted accounts are not easy or can be reliably replicated. Some are lucky, most are not. I believe many of us have dead accounts with quite a lot of fund already written off as un-recoverable. This state of affairs proves my point.

I am very much willing to be proven wrong. If anyone has good tricks/procedures/methods, please share for free or sell the tips to me (depends on the inclination of your ethics, I am fine with both).

garry9061 05-31-2017 03:07 PM

Re: 55k with Amazon Gone ! WTF!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chaichaoyi (Post 850159)
It's just my way of saying the procedures for getting the money back from deleted accounts are not easy or can be reliably replicated. Some are lucky, most are not. I believe many of us have dead accounts with quite a lot of fund already written off as un-recoverable. This state of affairs proves my point.

I am very much willing to be proven wrong. If anyone has good tricks/procedures/methods, please share for free or sell the tips to me (depends on the inclination of your ethics, I am fine with both).

If you make an effort to get your money back it can be done quite easily if you really think about it. Yes i do have a method of getting money back from a deleted account. I had a deleted account with approx 2K in cash and approx 5K worth of stock which they lost and never even checked it in ( meaning never said they had received it, but i had tracking) Anyway, it did take me a fe
w months BUT I got fully paid out and more.

shalomcity 05-31-2017 07:03 PM

Re: 55k with Amazon Gone ! WTF!
 
How did you get it back?

GreenBean 05-31-2017 07:31 PM

Re: 55k with Amazon Gone ! WTF!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garry9061 (Post 849975)
Apologies for the language, but seeing people spout crap like that to people who are already anxious, is horrible.

Yeah, yeah yeah.

What is more horrible is repeated threads from the same poster saying they are in deep Doo Doo because of their business practices.

Nose is blocked but it does smell a wee bit fishy.

High turn over sellers are normally not known as Richard Cranium.

Just saying.

:amen:

shalomcity 06-01-2017 02:03 AM

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Just got this email


We reviewed your account and the information you provided, and we have decided that you may not sell on Amazon.com. Due to the nature of our business, we do not provide details on our investigation methods.

If we determine that a seller account was used to engage in fraud or other illegal activity, we may permanently withhold payments. Therefore, we do not plan to transfer any funds to you.

We may not respond to further emails about this issue.

Sincerely,

Seller Performance Team
Amazon.com
https://www.amazon.com




Now what ? Hire a lawyer? I would like to Get the Money Back!.

cobaogio6 06-01-2017 03:07 AM

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99.9% you wont get the money back even with lawyer.

PhillyGuy 06-01-2017 07:22 AM

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Where are the people who insulted me when i told you that you won't get your money back ??

shalomcity 06-01-2017 10:43 AM

Re: 55k with Amazon Gone ! WTF!
 
Just spoke with lawyer, recomended I sue and file for arbitration. May all the thieves at amaozn go to hell!

cobaogio6 06-01-2017 11:12 AM

Re: 55k with Amazon Gone ! WTF!
 
there have been a huge number of people sueing Amazon anyway but all the cases even got in Amazon's favor or still delaying.

adamwu 06-01-2017 02:09 PM

Re: 55k with Amazon Gone ! WTF!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shalomcity (Post 850311)
Just spoke with lawyer, recomended I sue and file for arbitration. May all the thieves at amaozn go to hell!

Do not give up! Good luck!

MM78 06-01-2017 04:01 PM

Re: 55k with Amazon Gone ! WTF!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shalomcity (Post 850311)
Just spoke with lawyer, recomended I sue and file for arbitration. May all the thieves at amaozn go to hell!

I would move forward with what your lawyer told you.......$55K isn't anything to sneeze at, If it was like $500 id say just give up but not $55K!

GreenBean 06-01-2017 05:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillyGuy (Post 850295)
Where are the people who insulted me when i told you that you won't get your money back ??

What exactly do you want ?

The chest or the medal?

Until the OP says he has exhausted evey avenue, any responses are merely the opinion of a poster.

Since none of us know all his business, we do not know a final outcome.

:deadhorse:

rsot 06-01-2017 10:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shalomcity (Post 850311)
Just spoke with lawyer, recomended I sue and file for arbitration. May all the thieves at amaozn go to hell!

Best of luck

chaichaoyi 06-03-2017 04:50 AM

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:attention:
Quote:

Originally Posted by shalomcity (Post 850311)
Just spoke with lawyer, recomended I sue and file for arbitration. May all the thieves at amaozn go to hell!


I am on the skeptic side on the chances of ever getting your money back. Please keep us updated on the progress.

Also, if it turns out that the court rules in Amazon's favor, you may contact some of the posters above who said getting money back would be easy and fairly likely to succeed. They must know something that you and I dunno to have that kind of conviction.

Good luck with your battle with Amazon! Been there, done that, hate it.

garry9061 06-03-2017 10:44 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chaichaoyi (Post 850583)
:attention:


I am on the skeptic side on the chances of ever getting your money back. Please keep us updated on the progress.

Also, if it turns out that the court rules in Amazon's favor, you may contact some of the posters above who said getting money back would be easy and fairly likely to succeed. They must know something that you and I dunno to have that kind of conviction.

Good luck with your battle with Amazon! Been there, done that, hate it.

Some of us have our ways and means of getting our money back if sh*t hits the fan. If the OP fails at his legal venture, id happily tell him my personal methods which are effective. You will gather your own methods eventually when you start to actually succeed at selling on Amazon.

shalomcity 06-03-2017 12:21 PM

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Has anyone gone through a arbitration process and won against Amazon? I don't see how they can keep the profits after 90days. Legally.

fancyhills 06-03-2017 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by garry9061 (Post 850625)
Some of us have our ways and means of getting our money back if sh*t hits the fan. If the OP fails at his legal venture, id happily tell him my personal methods which are effective. You will gather your own methods eventually when you start to actually succeed at selling on Amazon.


What do you mean some ways

garry9061 06-03-2017 03:07 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fancyhills (Post 850653)
What do you mean some ways

Our own methods of dealing with amazon and getting our problems solved when they stop replying.

booras 06-04-2017 11:17 AM

Re: 55k with Amazon Gone ! WTF!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garry9061 (Post 850197)
If you make an effort to get your money back it can be done quite easily if you really think about it. Yes i do have a method of getting money back from a deleted account. I had a deleted account with approx 2K in cash and approx 5K worth of stock which they lost and never even checked it in ( meaning never said they had received it, but i had tracking) Anyway, it did take me a fe
w months BUT I got fully paid out and more.


Speak how you did it..

oompaloompa 06-04-2017 11:58 AM

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It is not really a method, but with paypal people have been known to send payments to themselves via credit card every 6 months, and if they got limited, do a chargeback for same amount.......it would work less for amazon anyway, as there is a withdrawal lag, and paypal you can withdraw instantly once the account is aged, so not so risky....plus would only work for smaller amounts in reality....

mrking401 06-05-2017 10:47 AM

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Can people on this forum please stop spreading this bad information.It is very possible to get your money back in a court case even if your using a account with a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name and false address.NO ,amazon does not use any law hocus pocus for cases like this.Learn the Usa laws,courts wont hold it against you for using alias info on a amazon account.A partner and I sued amazon 2 years back and the judge didnt even question why the account was in other info.We had access to all the other details on the account,CC,bank account deposits,Phone number,email account ,etc... was all in our possession and name,not to mention receipts to the products.Too many people spreading false info on this forum ,its making people lose thousands of dollars for no reason.This is being spread by people who never did anything past emailing. Thats like giving heart surgery advice when your only experience is putting a patch on a scraped knee.





Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillyGuy (Post 849635)
Damn
That's very sad

If you can't log into your account, it means that your money is gone forever and you can't get it back

That's sad

Why in the hell would you leave $55k in your account ??



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