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Play 08-24-2018 11:42 AM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 939227)
Let's be honest, calling ANY utility Company can be a pain the ass. I highly doubt that Amazon has some super secret direct number to any Utility Company where a customer support agent answers in seconds.

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agray34 08-24-2018 11:53 AM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
They are not calling. I just did a test with my own. I called Comcast and told them I needed to "verify" a utility bill. The rep was not sure what I meant, but told me that unless I am the account holder they could not provide any information.

donkeykong2012 08-24-2018 11:54 AM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
LOL

Of course Amazon cannot verify Utility Bills direct with NPower, United Utilities etc etc etc...

Although I had my Lunch an hour later than usual today. They might be aware from the extra energy usage from the Kettle and Microwave.

Paranoia.....

JamesNorth101 08-24-2018 12:01 PM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by donkeykong2012 (Post 939242)
LOL

Of course Amazon cannot verify Utility Bills direct with NPower, United Utilities etc etc etc...

Although I had my Lunch an hour later than usual today. They might be aware from the extra energy usage from the Kettle and Microwave.

Paranoia.....

Amazon is actually the reason that you had your lunch an hour late.... they arranged it

donkeykong2012 08-24-2018 12:05 PM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
I'm also a Russian Bot programmed to bring the whole House of Cards down from within.

:lol:

Got to laugh or you would go mad sometimes.

Icecream445 08-24-2018 01:15 PM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agray34 (Post 939241)
They are not calling. I just did a test with my own. I called Comcast and told them I needed to "verify" a utility bill. The rep was not sure what I meant, but told me that unless I am the account holder they could not provide any information.

You know thats not what I meant.Obviously you wouldnt tell the utility company that your not the owner of the account.Amazon is known to sometimes call your distributors when you send in invoices,so I dont see what would be different.But as I mentioned I dont really think they are going that far ,i just wanted to cross it off my list of possibilities.

JamesNorth101 08-24-2018 01:18 PM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
Amazon are not going to call utility bills presenting to be people they are not. It’s just not going to happen so you can cross it off

fredy 08-24-2018 11:40 PM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
The question has been answered. It has been confirmed by Pro members that Amazon won't call utility companies.

jinkh82 08-27-2018 11:54 PM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
What about using virtual office or mailbox rental address? Amazon can easily map the place out and see if it's actual resident address. Have any of you guys had successfully verified using these addresses?

marvydocs 09-16-2018 04:57 AM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Icecream445 (Post 939205)
Well I figured that people modify the bills to show different account numbers,because I do think they may be keeping track of that. They could call and speak to a rep.The first thing a rep will ask for is Name which is on Bill and the account number,and when the rep says we cant find an account in that name or number thats all amazon needs to know to decline.Ok thankyou and hangup.Anyone can do that if you have the proper info.

The utility companies won't give a 3rd party any info unless they claim you're the one who calls them and amazon can't do such step , this is the situation in germany , i don't know how would it work for other countries .

Magicalday 09-16-2018 04:55 PM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
Heres an example of how they could verify an utility bill without even calling.National grid for example control 90 percent of the electric/gas customers in New york,Rhode Island and Massachusetts.If they wanted to confirm wether someone was editing docs they would only need this link to confirm whether the utility bill had real info.
https://paynow7.speedpay.com/NationalGrid/index.asp
This is national grids online bill pay link which can be accessed without logging into the main utility account or without having to call.All it requires to pay yours or someones bill is the Account number which shows on the utility bill and the first 4 letters of the last name which shows on the utility bill as well,this doesnt require any other password at all.Meaning the only way it wouldnt allow you to access the bill paying feature is if your forged ⊗⊗⊗⊗ info on the utility.National grid will tell them right away that this account doesnt exist.Be my guest and test out this link.You can get to this link from nationgrids main site,and click pay by credit card.

Beautiful 09-16-2018 07:32 PM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
That's interesting but the majority of utility companies don't have anything like that in the USA

I don't think they are doing that at all

They are probably looking at the account as a whole and determining if its a high risk one or not

Magicalday 09-16-2018 09:06 PM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
Your partly right ,most utilitys dont have a Online version of this system like national grid.But verizon fios,cox cable and comcast have a automated system when you call the support number.You can call and get all the information you need from the robotic system without having to speak to a real person.I have service with all three,i so did a test with those too.It took three minutes for each call to verifiy if the account numbers on the billing statements were real or ⊗⊗⊗⊗.I guarentee if you were too send me 2 different utility bills one using real information and the other using bogus information ,it would only take me a few minutes to find out which is real and which is ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

glacier922 09-16-2018 09:27 PM

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^^^

I have comcast myself and i know that they are a bitch when giving out information, even from it's own account holder. I have no idea what u did to make it so easy to verify.

Magicalday 09-16-2018 09:29 PM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
Comcast is now one of the top internet provider in the usa covering 18 total states.So you can assume amazon gets a lot of those bills.Heres the support number 1 (800) 934-6489.Call and speak with the automated system only until it ask you to enter the account number.Guarentee itll tell you whether the account is valid or invalid.It takes 2 minutes max ,you dont even have to speak to a rep.

Magicalday 09-16-2018 09:35 PM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
Glacier call the comcastsupport number from a phone not registered to your comcast account.Number is 1 (800) 934-6489 .Or if you call and the automated system ask if you if this phone number is the account you are calling about tell it "no".Itll take you to a different set of automated options which is where you can verify if a account number is real .When it ask you to enter your account number do it twice ,enter a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ number and see what the automated system responds.Then enter your real account number and see the automated system responds.You will be surprise how quick it is and that it reveals whether your using a real comcast account or just a bunch of made up numbers.

Magicalday 09-16-2018 10:10 PM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
Somebody else please confirm.Here is verizon fios online bill pay,same as the national grid .All you need is the account number and zipcode to access someones account which would be on the utility bill.
https://www.verizon.com/expresspay/?src=C#/auth

Magicalday 09-16-2018 10:12 PM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
Not only does the comcast automated phone system reveal whether your account number is a real account or not,it also reveals the address of service once you enter in a correct one.

MM78 09-17-2018 12:04 AM

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I just got the inside scoop on how Amazon is verifying Utility Bills........It's not cheap but worth it for Amazon.

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Beautiful 09-17-2018 02:26 PM

Re: Do you think amazon is calling the utility bill companys?
 
Its possible for sure, but it does not seem like they would be spending the time and resources to do that.

What kind of pass rates are you getting?


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