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Sim 01-10-2019 06:09 PM

Selfie for Stealth
 
Is Amazon requiring selfie photo uploads now for new accounts? If so, how to navigate around this for ghost accounts?

Beautiful 01-11-2019 12:56 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
They were testing it sporadically last couple weeks, whether its going to be permanent or not only time will tell

From experience, when they test things, they usually bring them on months later

phaz0rz 01-11-2019 01:31 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
Pretty safe bet it'll be a permanent feature soon. Why would it not be?

flossmodeceo 01-13-2019 09:02 AM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
Second eye solutions sells ID with selfie

phaz0rz 01-13-2019 09:07 AM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flossmodeceo (Post 971008)
Second eye solutions sells ID with selfie

Doesn't help at all when Amazon is wanting a 5 second video live from your webcam.

walkingupwards 01-13-2019 01:56 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
I think Chinese scammers are pushing Amazon to deploy such measures. I saw a video the other day made by Wall Street Journal about Chinese vendors and their shady tactics to take competition down.

Apparently, a lot of users in China are making ⊗⊗⊗⊗ accounts en masse to leave ⊗⊗⊗⊗ reviews and get sellers banned right and left.

TooSlow 01-13-2019 01:59 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flossmodeceo (Post 971008)
Second eye solutions sells ID with selfie

Are they any good? What level of ID?

phaz0rz 01-13-2019 02:00 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TooSlow (Post 971088)
Are they any good? What level of ID?

Their service sucks and they don't provide live webcam streams with manufactured faces, so they aren't an option here.

Beautiful 01-13-2019 02:11 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walkingupwards (Post 971086)
I think Chinese scammers are pushing Amazon to deploy such measures. I saw a video the other day made by Wall Street Journal about Chinese vendors and their shady tactics to take competition down.

Apparently, a lot of users in China are making ⊗⊗⊗⊗ accounts en masse to leave ⊗⊗⊗⊗ reviews and get sellers banned right and left.

This seems possible as there has been tons of chinese amazon stores coming onto the market as of the last 6 months, more than I remember seeing.

bmk73 01-13-2019 05:01 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by walkingupwards (Post 971086)
I think Chinese scammers are pushing Amazon to deploy such measures. I saw a video the other day made by Wall Street Journal about Chinese vendors and their shady tactics to take competition down.

Apparently, a lot of users in China are making ⊗⊗⊗⊗ accounts en masse to leave ⊗⊗⊗⊗ reviews and get sellers banned right and left.


that is 100% true...and with amazon not removing feedback, that stuff kills real sellers

gotgame44 01-14-2019 07:25 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
What is amazon requiring that you do during this 5 second video.Are you suppose to do a song and dance or show hold your ID up?

GreenBottom18 01-15-2019 12:16 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
is this a one-time verification feature, or were they testing as a requirement for each log-in?

MM78 01-15-2019 12:32 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
My comment has nothing to do with Amazon, but Mercari has implemented the whole selfie picture thing when re-instating accounts that are Limited. Also, they do verify the ID is real when it gets scanned by their app.

SaiJin 01-15-2019 01:52 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
Because of the nature of the business, there'll be many sites out there that will either scam you or provide shoddy service quality.

We are fortunate enough we have this forum where we can safely purchase stuff that we need with no worries.

phaz0rz 01-15-2019 01:53 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Demon (Post 971564)
The only way for them to verify if the ID is real is to have access to government databases which is highly illegal from what I understand.

They're probably using a service or software like this :

https://www.acuantcorp.com/products/...tion-software/

I seriously doubt there's anything illegal about it

phaz0rz 01-15-2019 02:05 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 971572)
I get the feeling that we are going to have those type of service providers that will be verified by us in the forum very soon once these things hit the fan.

Because of the nature of the business, there'll be many sites out there that will either scam you or provide shoddy service quality.

We are fortunate enough we have this forum where we can safely purchase stuff that we need with no worries.

This forum is already walking a very fine line...

If such a service is ever offered it would probably go the way of VBA's rather quickly.

Beautiful 01-15-2019 02:25 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
You know what else is interesting is a service called NetVerify or something like that, which a lot of crypto exchanges started implementing about a year back due to KYC.

There were lots of people unable to get through it posting all over various BTC forums. Curious to know how much they can actually verify if none as most people say have database access

Ebayorbust 01-15-2019 02:29 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 971572)
I get the feeling that we are going to have those type of service providers that will be verified by us in the forum very soon once these things hit the fan.

Because of the nature of the business, there'll be many sites out there that will either scam you or provide shoddy service quality.

We are fortunate enough we have this forum where we can safely purchase stuff that we need with no worries.

These types of services are currently not permitted according to forum rules, unless of course you have been told something different?

phaz0rz 01-15-2019 02:33 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
The service I posted about in the other thread in response to "The Demon" says on the website that one of the services they offer compares the biometric data in the selfie face with that of the ID face. It also says they do a "liveness check" to make sure it's not a photoshopped still photo being presented.

I've seen plenty of dark net offerings for eBooks claiming to teach people how to validate ID numbers.

So I guess if you combine those two technologies (+ probably a few other neat tricks) you can fairly accurately assess whether or not an ID is real without having access to a government database.

SaiJin 01-15-2019 02:43 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 971583)
These types of services are currently not permitted according to forum rules, unless of course you have been told something different?

No, nothing has changed, I need to reword my English.

I'm just saying that if we start letting it pass, this is the forum to purchase from because of our security.

gotgame44 01-15-2019 10:37 PM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
There are better websites out there.

rsot 01-16-2019 12:35 AM

Re: Selfie for Stealth
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gotgame44 (Post 971639)
There are better websites out there.

Certain there are - plus a lot of scamming sites too, sadly.


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