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r00tk3y 06-23-2019 10:12 PM

Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
I’ve tried 4 different accounts, each new vm, three on phone 4g ips the other one dedicated proxy all of them blocked. I’ve used prepaid cards, different kinds blocked, last time I got billing address verification it was from IP address, anyone got any ideas as to why?

WEI 06-23-2019 10:14 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
must be because of your Proxy provider.
Did you make purchases right after you created the accounts?

r00tk3y 06-23-2019 10:22 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Yes I didn’t let the accounts sit, but I never used to let them sit

Eslam Muhammed 06-23-2019 11:25 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
are you using VCC?

r00tk3y 06-23-2019 11:50 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Prepaid cards

r00tk3y 06-27-2019 09:43 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
bump here here

Beautiful 06-29-2019 05:01 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Are you adding gift cards at all?

What is the country issuing VCC?

I'd imagine based on your info that its the prepaid card, and probably a non-usa one

r00tk3y 06-29-2019 09:26 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Prepaid card issued within the USA, I think it might be the ips though, because these emails are catch-alls

hattmall 07-01-2019 06:56 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
I'm having the same problem. I'm using Prepaid cards, some bought from this site, some bought locally in the US. Adding gift cards all bought locally. Accounts are getting closed. Is there any tips to keep accounts open. I'm not letting them sit, how long should they? I'm not even getting any kind of verification, they are just locked out with the "incorrect password", please pm me any tips.

gshopov 07-03-2019 10:08 AM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
hello ,
i having the same problem all accounts are closed for account verification ...

USA ip , USA gmail USA address after few days they are close

Unlimitedsales 07-08-2019 05:56 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Yes, it normal and it very old.

just send them statement and it will be activated. Because you have used your credit or debit card. That's why they asked for that.

If you would have used Giftcard, that wouldnt been happened

Kenkomenta 07-09-2019 02:22 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by landman210 (Post 1015026)
I have many buyer only accounts and haven't ever had any problems...all have different ip's and have never had to verify anything...

PM me if you still need help..

Hi could you pm me , i'm facing same issue as well.

EarnLikePro 07-10-2019 03:49 AM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by landman210 (Post 1015026)
I have many buyer only accounts and haven't ever had any problems...all have different ip's and have never had to verify anything...

PM me if you still need help..

Hello there

I was looking for some suggestions. I was looking for the best possible cheap way to get amazon prime (Trials).

Any suggestions?

WHich proxy providers do u use?

tlecaster 07-10-2019 05:39 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r00tk3y (Post 1013482)
I’ve tried 4 different accounts, each new vm, three on phone 4g ips the other one dedicated proxy all of them blocked. I’ve used prepaid cards, different kinds blocked, last time I got billing address verification it was from IP address, anyone got any ideas as to why?

Any progress?
Having the same issue, some of my orders went through,
at this point I think its just luck honestly

Some go through without Adress verification, some dont

crusha07 07-13-2019 01:42 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by landman210 (Post 1018568)
I have many buyer only accounts and I'm creating more all the time but have never had any issues with them...

PM me if I can help

I'm having the same issues as well, what's your setup to creating those multiple accounts?

NormanNormal 07-30-2019 12:42 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hattmall (Post 1015634)
I'm having the same problem. I'm using Prepaid cards, some bought from this site, some bought locally in the US. Adding gift cards all bought locally. Accounts are getting closed. Is there any tips to keep accounts open. I'm not letting them sit, how long should they? I'm not even getting any kind of verification, they are just locked out with the "incorrect password", please pm me any tips.

Same exact problems here.

Beautiful 07-30-2019 01:37 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Have you guys tried using your own legit debit/credit cards?

I have yet to see this issue with people using their real cards. Not prepaid, not GCs

sussu007 07-30-2019 05:43 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Strong belief it has to do with purchase threshold on newish accounts. For me, order of 30$ went through without an issue, got charged. Placed an order of 50$ and got blocked. Letting them sit for 3 days before placing the first order is also crucial.

NormanNormal 07-30-2019 06:42 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sussu007 (Post 1022917)
Strong belief it has to do with purchase threshold on newish accounts. For me, order of 30$ went through without an issue, got charged. Placed an order of 50$ and got blocked. Letting them sit for 3 days before placing the first order is also crucial.

My experience has been daily orders all the way up to $100 are OK for the first week. I always do a small first order of $10 or so just to see if it passes the initial test if it will ship or not. Sometimes on new accounts you get that email right away saying "your order cannot be shipped" and they require verification. Once past that first order I have no issues with daily orders.

karaallen514 07-30-2019 10:45 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by r00tk3y (Post 1013482)
I’ve tried 4 different accounts, each new vm, three on phone 4g ips the other one dedicated proxy all of them blocked. I’ve used prepaid cards, different kinds blocked, last time I got billing address verification it was from IP address, anyone got any ideas as to why?

Probably issue with your IP or address you are using. are you using clean IPs? I was facing same issue for a while.

sussu007 07-31-2019 03:39 AM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
New accounts are super sensitive for first orders. This is what Amazon has changed with new accounts in past few weeks. You have to grow the value of orders gradually. I always place a first order for some biro or something like that, less than 5$. Next day I place an order for something worth 25$ - 30$. You wait a couple of days then threshold is 50$. Etc etc.

It's not like it was before were with a new account you just had to wait a couple of days and then could place an order for a 100$ no problem.

rsot 07-31-2019 05:41 AM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sussu007 (Post 1022989)
New accounts are super sensitive for first orders. This is what Amazon has changed with new accounts in past few weeks. You have to grow the value of orders gradually. I always place a first order for some biro or something like that, less than 5$. Next day I place an order for something worth 25$ - 30$. You wait a couple of days then threshold is 50$. Etc etc.

It's not like it was before were with a new account you just had to wait a couple of days and then could place an order for a 100$ no problem.

Ramping up buyer activity over time...nice move

r00tk3y 07-31-2019 07:34 AM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sussu007 (Post 1022989)
New accounts are super sensitive for first orders. This is what Amazon has changed with new accounts in past few weeks. You have to grow the value of orders gradually. I always place a first order for some biro or something like that, less than 5$. Next day I place an order for something worth 25$ - 30$. You wait a couple of days then threshold is 50$. Etc etc.

It's not like it was before were with a new account you just had to wait a couple of days and then could place an order for a 100$ no problem.

Haven’t tested this will try

NormanNormal 07-31-2019 01:13 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sussu007 (Post 1022989)
New accounts are super sensitive for first orders. This is what Amazon has changed with new accounts in past few weeks. You have to grow the value of orders gradually. I always place a first order for some biro or something like that, less than 5$. Next day I place an order for something worth 25$ - 30$. You wait a couple of days then threshold is 50$. Etc etc.

It's not like it was before were with a new account you just had to wait a couple of days and then could place an order for a 100$ no problem.

I'm wondering if they treat aged accounts from a few years ago the same way, even if no orders were placed in a long time.

sussu007 07-31-2019 04:31 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NormanNormal (Post 1023089)
I'm wondering if they treat aged accounts from a few years ago the same way, even if no orders were placed in a long time.

They definitely do. Limits are close to none on 5 year old + accounts. On newer accounts, you just have to ramp up. Always act the way a legitimate user would act.

Zippie 07-31-2019 09:04 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
I agree they tend to treat older accounts with prior similar (to what you want to do now) history totally differently than a new fresh account.

In fact if anyone has some older Amazon buyer accounts (with normal buying activity) they want to sell, PM me.

hattmall 08-01-2019 12:15 AM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippie (Post 1023159)
I agree they tend to treat older accounts with prior similar (to what you want to do now) history totally differently than a new fresh account.

In fact if anyone has some older Amazon buyer accounts (with normal buying activity) they want to sell, let me know.

I have tons, but facing the same issues. My account did last longer than new, but still getting shutdown, old accounts I was bringing back and paying for prime with.

Accounts that had done ~ 20k in purchasing over a year or so.

NormanNormal 08-02-2019 08:47 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hattmall (Post 1023173)
I have tons, but facing the same issues. My account did last longer than new, but still getting shutdown, old accounts I was bringing back and paying for prime with.

Accounts that had done ~ 20k in purchasing over a year or so.

Are you buying gift of prime with older accounts and sending it to new ones?

sussu007 08-22-2019 03:29 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Facing alot of issues too. Did anyone have any success? Using VCCs with false name and address but correct postcode

futbolplayer 08-22-2019 04:24 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
When are people getting address verified? First order? Second order?

sussu007 08-23-2019 02:49 AM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by futbolplayer (Post 1028770)
When are people getting address verified? First order? Second order?

Hit and miss mostly. It's just luck at this point in my opinion. Most get stuck on first order but also happens at second order and third order.

I have a feeling it is coming from my IPs. Previously, worked with NORDVPN dedicated IPs without any problems but now they are getting blocked. Also used datacenter IPs (I know that is frowned upon on this forum).

Having said that, I will try switching to mobile data IP and refreshing via airplane mode

its 08-23-2019 01:26 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
I've been using mobile hotspot IP and I am still getting AVS email or shadow blocked.

The item I am buying is an Amazon rental so I think that is a particularly hot item that they are watching for unusual behavior.

My next step is to get a new address and new computer and try again.

I can usually get a single order of a single item delivered but, that is all.

forest1 08-23-2019 01:38 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by its (Post 1029062)
I've been using mobile hotspot IP and I am still getting AVS email or shadow blocked.

The item I am being is an Amazon rental so I think that is a particularly hot item that they are watching for unsusal behavior.

My next step is to get a new address and new computer and try again.

I can usually get a single order of a single item delivered but, that is all.

One single order paid with physical gift card? How much is the order?

its 08-23-2019 03:32 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Rental items don't allow gift cards you must use a Visa/mastercard/Discover or Amex branded card.

I have been using Amex gift cards and Mastercard virtual cards issued by my real credit card.

The rental items range from $20-$40.

r00tk3y 08-23-2019 11:21 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by its (Post 1029094)
Rental items don't allow gift cards you must use a Visa/mastercard/Discover or Amex branded card.

I have been using Amex gift cards and Mastercard virtual cards issued by my real credit card.

The rental items range from $20-$40.

try smaller amount?

NormanNormal 08-23-2019 11:35 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sussu007 (Post 1028862)
Hit and miss mostly. It's just luck at this point in my opinion. Most get stuck on first order but also happens at second order and third order.

I have a feeling it is coming from my IPs. Previously, worked with NORDVPN dedicated IPs without any problems but now they are getting blocked. Also used datacenter IPs (I know that is frowned upon on this forum).

Having said that, I will try switching to mobile data IP and refreshing via airplane mode

NordVPN has been blacklisted by amazon, as confirmed by them. Stay away from it.

Use this IP scoring tool as a way to guage how amazon sees your IP address health:

https://getipintel.net/index.php#web


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