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Tinboy 03-14-2020 03:28 PM

Re: Amazon geolocation.. food for thought
 
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Originally Posted by paulfoltyn (Post 1077133)
They do not call the utility companies lol massive data breach if your utility company discussed anything with them + your utility company doesn't have time to secure Amazons income. "moving it around" means nothing. Your cop brother is obviously not in computer forensics. If you want to see what background data amazon can view on your files .. download and exif viewer. There is software to edit that too. And it works. You're on the right tracks scanning everything though because the exif data then is legit scanned data. Simply uploading and downloading any document to facebook will remove all exif data. Why? Cause facebook is saving space on their servers. zero exif data may raise a small red flag though. Keep scanning


There are some utility companies in the usa that give away more info then they probably should through the automated call.Meaning the option menu on the phone will allow you to do things like pay bills ,do troubleshooting,or figure out the balance on the account without actually needing to talk to a real person.Some people here think amazon maybe abusing that feature since it usually only requires you enter the account number into the phone dial pad and sometimes the robot will reveal the name or address of the service residence.These parts are usually not recorded,so technically amazon wouldnt get caught if they were.

Personally Ive managed to create quite a few accounts this year on stealth info and edited docs,so i know if amazon does this practice it is not all of the staff members doing it.If we can catch some of the amazon members in the act,they would have a legal issue.Personally I think amazon is just using a third party software for document verification's like https://urjanet.com/ who claims their software can verify a utility bill with data.Companies like this are never accurate which is why a lot of people are failing doc verification's when sending in real info.

paulfoltyn 03-16-2020 01:15 PM

Re: Amazon geolocation.. food for thought
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinboy (Post 1077210)
There are some utility companies in the usa that give away more info then they probably should through the automated call.Meaning the option menu on the phone will allow you to do things like pay bills ,do troubleshooting,or figure out the balance on the account without actually needing to talk to a real person.Some people here think amazon maybe abusing that feature since it usually only requires you enter the account number into the phone dial pad and sometimes the robot will reveal the name or address of the service residence.These parts are usually not recorded,so technically amazon wouldnt get caught if they were.

Personally Ive managed to create quite a few accounts this year on stealth info and edited docs,so i know if amazon does this practice it is not all of the staff members doing it.If we can catch some of the amazon members in the act,they would have a legal issue.Personally I think amazon is just using a third party software for document verification's like https://urjanet.com/ who claims their software can verify a utility bill with data.Companies like this are never accurate which is why a lot of people are failing doc verification's when sending in real info.

Thats a huge security flaw by USA companies. Easy to abuse by fraudsters. Amazon abusing this would be illegal surely. It would be in europe. Surely by now a whistleblower would have came out with the abuse claim. Like you suggest. Most likely using document checkers.

Tinboy 03-16-2020 07:18 PM

Re: Amazon geolocation.. food for thought
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by paulfoltyn (Post 1077716)
Thats a huge security flaw by USA companies. Easy to abuse by fraudsters. Amazon abusing this would be illegal surely. It would be in europe. Surely by now a whistleblower would have came out with the abuse claim. Like you suggest. Most likely using document checkers.

The problem is that there no way to truly prove it.Most people signing up for amazon are dumb dumbs when it comes to connecting those kind of dots.Their biggest concern is just getting verified,as long as that happens I highly doubt theyd complain about the method amazon used.The only reason we connected them dots here is because were the small group of amazon sellers who've been trying to master stealth for years,were more vigilant for things like that.On top of that ,you can barely get members of this forum to agree on anything.Everyone is a know it all here.

theintersect 05-17-2020 08:01 PM

Re: Amazon geolocation.. food for thought
 
I find this thread interesting and I've always thought you can have location on, but websites like amazon eBay and PayPal have to ask for permission.. Is that not true

MomNPopShop 05-17-2020 10:51 PM

Re: Amazon geolocation.. food for thought
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinboy (Post 1077807)
The problem is that there no way to truly prove it.Most people signing up for amazon are dumb dumbs when it comes to connecting those kind of dots.Their biggest concern is just getting verified,as long as that happens I highly doubt theyd complain about the method amazon used.The only reason we connected them dots here is because were the small group of amazon sellers who've been trying to master stealth for years,were more vigilant for things like that.On top of that ,you can barely get members of this forum to agree on anything.Everyone is a know it all here.

So is that what you think, amazon uses third party sources to verify docs? My own real utility statement got denied.... It would make sense but I only know of my self, maybe ill try signing up under someone I actually know.

fevernight 05-18-2020 12:07 PM

Re: Amazon geolocation.. food for thought
 
Tiredguy...
You stated "Another account opened.. it looks like it's all about the docs.."

Quick question...
Are you changing ID or Account numbers in your documents?
Or are you keeping the same information.


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