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| alwaystrying | 11-21-2009 11:27 AM | This is what they do. You start selling and as soon as you hit a certain number they hold funds. Now they are forcing you to use tracking even though it is not mandatory. I feel this and the cards are becoming a problem.
Now there will be alot of angry buyers this season because i am not mailing my stuff out. I had a reserve funds email then an account closure the next day. Amazon is just like a theif on the street. The accounts do not last long anymore years ago i had accounts for 3-4 years now it seams they are lasting 1-3 months tops. Look at all the small sellers their ratings are trashed by buyers. Why? this is because amazon has their employees purchasing from you.Little maggots. They are trying to find out who you are.They cant link accounts if you do it right.
So now they use the seller performance issue letter.How can you have bad performance when you have not received feedback from buyers. And if you email them they buyer thinks you are pestering them.So what the hell.Check out all the big sellers with major feedback.Why can they get 200 in one day when i cant even get 1 on 1 week!! This is because all the big sellers are amazon !! They are using diffrent names. Check the states. All off them are from states that amazon has offices and wharehouses...Now amazon has their people buy your item and then they cancel your account now they have your merchandise FOR FREE!! and your money! This is how they do it. They steel from the small seller these greedy *******s!.after selling on this website for 8 years I thought i had it figured out but yesterday they took one of my 10 accounts down. Using the same letter.They had nothing on me so they just cut me loose.
They do this sparadically and just think how much money they get to make interest per day..MILLIONS!!They are trying to fool people with their supposed profits ,But actually their profits is not from sales it is from holding small sellers funds!!How many people do you think actually buy from amazon themselves. I say 20% the rest is fro third party sellers like ourselves. That is why amazon holds funds.
Just look at what im saying .Go on amazon and see where these sellers are from.. IL, KY, WA, Seattle, OR and the list is endless. How do i know Because i tested buying minial items from different sellers and i have their address They basically track back to the same place!
I will try another approach but as i see it They hold sellers money during this time christmas. years ago they did not. So I see that this christmas is basically shot for the season.Low sales Numbers high account s on hold..so I guess i will try after christmas.You can't make a living online anymore due to them cancelling your accounts.
It makes no sense to me why they would want a bad rap from buyers when they hold sellers funds.They are just hurting themselves. I never really purchased anything from amazon except to see where their locations were. I purchase on othersites. I won't give them my business when they take down mine for no reason... |
| tgurly | 11-21-2009 08:46 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Recherché
(Post 112507)
You can increase your sales to whatever you like. Just be prepared to get it under 30 day review where you can't withdraw funds for that time period if you don't start getting feedback scores right away. Once that is over your good. Always provide tracking # for orders as this may stop 30 day review of account.
Stealth accounts last forever...that is if you don't to something stupid (like I had before reading stealth book) and get suspended. With help from Stealth 2.0, I'm on my sixth account with amazon from same laptop. Three are running at once now still after having first 3 suspended for good.
I always start off with selling low priced items. After I get 1st positive feedback with about two dozen sales with tracking numbers I slowly added all products I have in stock from previous suspended accounts. Of course, I added lots of random products I price too high and avoid sales to throw off amazon bots that look for new accounts that have products too related to suspended ones.
With my 3 accounts up and running now, I request dispursements every several days to get paid. That way I spread out payments and risk as if one goes down, I simply add products from that account to my others. Hope this helps. | I'd like to know, how were you able to open and keep 3/6 Amazon accounts on the same laptop without being tracked as a previously suspended seller? Thanks |
| e Vader | 11-21-2009 11:54 PM | I want to create a stealth account and I've read over the Amazon threads here for a coupla hours --- still unclear to me is how the bank info should best be used for a new stealth acct. (when Amazon placed me under review and froze funds for 30 days, I got mad and refunded 8-10 items in a blind rage, which led to suspension for 'backing out of sales'). I get the MAC tracing, new browser, clean image, dummy inventory, etc. but not how everyone tweaks banking info. Should I get my wife or sister to open an account and use the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address (which should also double as my 'ship from' address? Won't the same last name finger me when Az does a bank verification? If I open a small business account, won't they still be able to trace by owner's name? |
| imthatguy | 12-23-2009 05:15 AM | Nice guide here |
| whatever3000 | 12-28-2009 08:59 PM | What happends after the account is OK? How do you list new items?
If I use the library for opening a new account, do I have to list there as well? How about shipping the item? |
| thousand-face | 05-09-2010 01:37 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by bluemoon999
(Post 105132)
Switching NIC is the trick if you don't want to buy another computer. | what is NIC?
THANK YOU |
| shoot2kill | 05-09-2010 06:35 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by milovjazevic
(Post 137558)
what is NIC?
THANK YOU | ...a simple google search would have solve that for you! nic = network interface card |
| thousand-face | 05-11-2010 07:15 PM | This is my situation ok, I open an account in Amazon and it has been closing one after another one.
This is what I do
change ip
deleted cookies(flush and temporary)
I create a partition just dedicated for tha particular account
I change my mac address
I went to the extreme, also change my NIC in my desktop
reformated my computer
use greendot
New email
new phone
Any sugestion , it will be highly apreciate it.
Thank you in advance |
| nobody999 | 05-11-2010 09:14 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by thousand-face
(Post 137985)
ok, I open an account in Amazon and it has been closing one after another one.
This is what I do
change ip
deleted cookies(flush and temporary)
I create a partition just dedicated for tha particular account
I change my mac address
I went to the extreme, also change my NIC in my desktop
reformated my computer
use greendot
New email
new phone
Any sugestion , it will be highly apreciate it.
Thank you in advance | did you list the exact same products as the suspended account? |
| thousand-face | 05-12-2010 05:45 AM | I did stop selling for 2 weeks, then I list one of the items. I have not sold this item for at least a month
Thank you |
| nobody999 | 05-12-2010 02:33 PM | amazon Quote:
Originally Posted by thousand-face
(Post 138039)
I did stop selling for 2 weeks, then I list one of the items. I have not sold this item for at least a month
Thank you | is the product unique? |
| Vicvelcro | 05-13-2010 05:00 AM | Are you using the same bank (not same account number), same phone provider (not same number), same plastic card provider (credit, debit, vcc, whatever)? Anything like that?
If Roger Hammersmith used:
BofA 123456
Citi 123789
Vumber 555-1212
Selling E.R. box sets
and had to make a new account as:
Hammer Rogersmith
BofA 654321
Citi 987321
Vumber 555-2121
Selling E.R. (or possibly even St. Elsewhere) box sets
That would probably get noticed. Account numbers aren't the same, sure. But dang, I still think there might be an incriminating pattern.
Since Amazon doesn't need Roger Hammersmith or Hammer Rogersmith, they might just refuse to take a chance. Their life goes on mostly unchanged. Hammer is bummin'. |
| thousand-face | 05-13-2010 05:57 AM | Since I open a new account and don put any bank account because I dont need it until any money is available.
Of course, I dont use any name , credit card or email that I have used on the past, change zip code, ip. Yesterday, i try with netzero and also I double check that it was not same ip. 2 hours later , they block me because they think that I am selling copy media. Of course they see something because they can not relate with copie media if I dont have any sale or customer to complaint about this. Now, my conclusion about these is that my problem is no the computer because they do not relate me last time about instead they say "copy media". I has to be something related to the conection with the server, some info that they can see that they find suspicious but they are not 100 percent sure.
Thank you for your reply. |
| Vicvelcro | 05-13-2010 06:17 AM | Did you change your WAN MAC address or use a different network adapter? This MAC does not apply to dialup modems.
It may very well be that the particular media you sell is frequently copied media also sold by others and therefore Amazon could be flagging it because you are starting sales with suspect titles.
Try creating an Amazon account and do not list things you've listed in the past. Start with a fresh product for testing. Go to the dollar store or Walmart. Buy a couple of books or some childrens' toys. List those and see what happens.
And if you must hide behind dialup, don't use a free service to do so. Amazon can tell, and I'm sure they don't respect free dialup users very much.
Best advice to you: seriously pretend you work at Amazon and pretend you like your job. If you were a dedicated Amazon employee looking at a seller identical to the real you... What would you be thinking?
New account, suspect media, free dialup... |
| dennisjaneway | 05-13-2010 07:01 PM | Hello,
since every Greendot card ended in a Account Suspenion after a few days or hours i choose another way.
I registered with a unknown Prepaid Debit Card, use a unknown DialUp and a not so famous E-Mail Provder.
And now i registered my 8th Account without any!!! problems.
Of couse i will not post which Debit Card and which Dialup i use......but i can say, when u what to use that, its a lot more work, than buy a debit card at the next WalMart.
BUT thats the good one, I NEVER payed a cent for that, Debit Card, Phone Number and E-Mail is free.
So guys to your research, ok my method is strange, but it works, and NEVER try to list a DVD (for example) in the beginning, please begin with a book or something else!
Greetz
Dennis
For me, greendot + gmail e-mail didnt work since feb 2010! |
| Amazombie | 05-15-2010 11:05 AM | Dennis...gud advice:) |
| Vicvelcro | 05-15-2010 09:04 PM | One of my Amazon accounts is using green dot, gmail, and a tracfone. Been up since last year. No problems. Quote:
Originally Posted by dennisjaneway
(Post 138407)
Hello,
since every Greendot card ended in a Account Suspenion after a few days or hours i choose another way.
I registered with a unknown Prepaid Debit Card, use a unknown DialUp and a not so famous E-Mail Provder.
And now i registered my 8th Account without any!!! problems.
Of couse i will not post which Debit Card and which Dialup i use......but i can say, when u what to use that, its a lot more work, than buy a debit card at the next WalMart.
BUT thats the good one, I NEVER payed a cent for that, Debit Card, Phone Number and E-Mail is free.
So guys to your research, ok my method is strange, but it works, and NEVER try to list a DVD (for example) in the beginning, please begin with a book or something else!
Greetz
Dennis
For me, greendot + gmail e-mail didnt work since feb 2010! | |
| dennisjaneway | 05-15-2010 09:36 PM | sorry but we are talking about NEW Accounts! not that account which are older than 3 month! |
| Vicvelcro | 05-15-2010 11:15 PM | I understand now. Disregard post #57, then. I didn't read the specifics clearly. |
| thousand-face | 05-16-2010 06:12 AM | I am getting ready to open a new account.
Thank you for all replies and Iwill let you know what happen. |
| thousand-face | 05-16-2010 06:42 AM | I never have used any gift card(only my own or prepaid cards) so this is my
question.
Do you have to register any address with these gift cards or not? There is any other information that you need for these gift cards or no question asked |
| dennisjaneway | 05-16-2010 07:05 AM | for amazon u should register that card (prepaid, Giftcard.....) exactly to that adress you will give them! |
| Amazombie | 05-18-2010 12:03 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by dennisjaneway
(Post 138803)
for amazon u should register that card (prepaid, Giftcard.....) exactly to that adress you will give them! | Agreed....this also may help later if u get reveiwed and amazon takes a closer look at your account. |
| thousand-face | 05-19-2010 05:14 AM | So when you buy any gift card, you always have the choice to register or not any address? Quote:
Originally Posted by Amazombie
(Post 139223)
Agreed....this also may help later if u get reveiwed and amazon takes a closer look at your account. | | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:52 AM. | |
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