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| leamprotan | 06-12-2023 08:24 PM | Switching to Residential Proxy Made a mistake opening my first stealth account using my friends info and his Wi-Fi. Not realizing how inconvenient it would be having to drive to his place every time I want to access the account.
The account is ~2 weeks old, I am wondering if I get a residential proxy now and start using it to access the account if it will raise any red flags this early and possibly get the account suspended or if it should be fine.
Thanks! |
| SaiJin | 06-12-2023 09:58 PM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by leamprotan
(Post 1219347)
Made a mistake opening my first stealth account using my friends info and his Wi-Fi. Not realizing how inconvenient it would be having to drive to his place every time I want to access the account.
The account is ~2 weeks old, I am wondering if I get a residential proxy now and start using it to access the account if it will raise any red flags this early and possibly get the account suspended or if it should be fine.
Thanks! |
use the residential IP from ipburger and keep using that consistently. |
| leamprotan | 06-12-2023 10:42 PM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1219354)
use the residential IP from ipburger and keep using that consistently. |
That was my plan but wanted to make sure if I switch it now, 2 weeks in, it will be ok and not get the account suspended. |
| leamprotan | 06-13-2023 12:13 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy I'm kind of confused on the proper proxy to even get.
I see residential, static residential and fresh and dedicated.
What is the best for running this single account. Or in time running 3-4 accounts. I'm based in Canada so static residential doesn't seem to be an option but then with residential it says your IP changes potentially every 30 minutes. This seems like something you wouldn't want.
Sorry very new to this, I've read lots but just don't want to make any mistakes with this new account. |
| Nimble | 06-13-2023 01:53 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy are you able to use your mobile phone as a hotspot, meaning you will use your mobile data to connect to the internet. |
| BigLad | 06-13-2023 04:54 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Just use mobile IP tethering, no need to waste your mo ney with residential |
Re: Switching to Residential Proxy OP, if you're in Canada, you don't need proxy - unless you are trying for other country IP? |
| leamprotan | 06-13-2023 07:46 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by Nimble
(Post 1219359)
are you able to use your mobile phone as a hotspot, meaning you will use your mobile data to connect to the internet. | I have a mobile phone that I could use to hotspot however this phone was previously associated to a deactivated account and has the amazon seller app currently installed. I assume that will be a problem for linking?
If I was to get a second new phone and then just put my current sim in a new phone to use as a hotspot when I need to access the account would that work? |
| leamprotan | 06-13-2023 07:47 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 1219371)
OP, if you're in Canada, you don't need proxy - unless you are trying for other country IP? | I am in Ontario and the account I opened is using details in the same city I currently reside in. Can you explain why no proxy is needed? |
| leamprotan | 06-13-2023 07:56 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by BigLad
(Post 1219361)
Just use mobile IP tethering, no need to waste your mo ney with residential | I have Bluetooth, USB, and Ethernet tethering option on my current phone. I am wondering for example:
I have a deactivated seller account at my current residence on my current wifi. The phone is also associated with the deactivated account and uses the same wifi. Can I be on my current wifi network with this current phone and use it to tether the laptop that is associated with the new account?
If not, what would be the alternative? New phone same SIM? New phone and new SIM and not to ever access using home wifi, only mobile data? Does location matter when accessing (not from home address)? |
| leamprotan | 06-13-2023 08:05 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Also wondering how tethering or mobile hotspot could work for accessing multiple accounts using the same phone? |
| SaiJin | 06-13-2023 09:50 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by leamprotan
(Post 1219356)
That was my plan but wanted to make sure if I switch it now, 2 weeks in, it will be ok and not get the account suspended. | The residential IP won't get you suspended.
If you get suspended it'll be something else going on. |
| degsey69 | 06-14-2023 06:33 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Using the phone for tethering will be OK even though you have got an eBay app on it which is permanently suspended. It can not be associated when used as a tether.
If you live in the country of the eBay account keep your money on your bank account as in my opinion residential I P are only good for out of country sellers who are registered in eBay in Canada as a seller. |
| leamprotan | 06-14-2023 08:19 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by degsey69
(Post 1219442)
Using the phone for tethering will be OK even though you have got an eBay app on it which is permanently suspended. It can not be associated when used as a tether.
If you live in the country of the eBay account keep your money on your bank account as in my opinion residential I P are only good for out of country sellers who are registered in eBay in Canada as a seller. |
Sorry to confirm this is the Amazon seller app on the phone with the deactivated account.
Stealth Account is in Canada and I am in Canada.
Just want to confirm I can tether using the phone from this deactivated account anywhere, even while the phone is connected to the wifi at my home address where I have also used the deactivated account on other devices.
Can I also use tethering for multiple stealth amazon accounts with the same phone? |
| degsey69 | 06-14-2023 09:31 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Sorry that I said eBay, it will still be OK for the phone as a tether for Amazon. |
| SaiJin | 06-14-2023 09:43 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by leamprotan
(Post 1219445)
Sorry to confirm this is the Amazon seller app on the phone with the deactivated account.
Stealth Account is in Canada and I am in Canada.
Just want to confirm I can tether using the phone from this deactivated account anywhere, even while the phone is connected to the wifi at my home address where I have also used the deactivated account on other devices.
Can I also use tethering for multiple stealth amazon accounts with the same phone? | Okay, do you want to have peace of mind and conduct business consistently or do you want to cut corners to save $50 ? |
| leamprotan | 06-14-2023 10:24 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1219454)
Okay, do you want to have peace of mind and conduct business consistently or do you want to cut corners to save $50 ? | It is not about cutting corners if both are viable, safe options. $50 is nothing but if one option is more convenient for me then obviously I'd choose that. This is why I'm asking for clarification on tethering because if its viable for my situation, then its viable. If not, then residential proxy.
I did ask for clarification on residential proxy vs static residential vs fresh vs dedicated for my situation but I didn't get a response. I have read into the product options and they all seem like they would be suitable for operating a stealth account but everyone hammers residential proxy without much explanation. That's why I'm trying to understand the benefits or other options before making a decision. |
| leamprotan | 06-15-2023 07:15 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by leamprotan
(Post 1219445)
Sorry to confirm this is the Amazon seller app on the phone with the deactivated account.
Stealth Account is in Canada and I am in Canada.
Just want to confirm I can tether using the phone from this deactivated account anywhere, even while the phone is connected to the wifi at my home address where I have also used the deactivated account on other devices.
Can I also use tethering for multiple stealth amazon accounts with the same phone? | Can anyone confirm these questions? |
Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by leamprotan
(Post 1219445)
Sorry to confirm this is the Amazon seller app on the phone with the deactivated account.
Stealth Account is in Canada and I am in Canada.
Just want to confirm I can tether using the phone from this deactivated account anywhere, even while the phone is connected to the wifi at my home address where I have also used the deactivated account on other devices.
Can I also use tethering for multiple stealth amazon accounts with the same phone? | Tethering can be used for multiple stealth amazon accounts BUT NOT on the same phone - use fresh devices.
I wouldn't risk the link of using this device for other accounts |
Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 1219498)
Tethering can be used for multiple stealth amazon accounts BUT NOT on the same phone - use fresh devices.
| Rubbish, I've used the same device to connect all my accounts on ebay and Amazon for well over a decade now.
They can see absolutely no information about it other than the IP address. |
Re: Switching to Residential Proxy OP, as others have said you are absolutely fine using your phone to tether your account. There is no risk and is certainly a better option than a V.P.N or proxy.
Assuming you have a dynamic IP on your home broadband why are you not using this? |
Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank
(Post 1219556)
Rubbish, I've used the same device to connect all my accounts on ebay and Amazon for well over a decade now.
They can see absolutely no information about it other than the IP address. | that's not what I meant - you can use the same device to connect, yes that's fine.
I meant using the same device for amazon accounts - like operating new amazon accounts on the same old device already used.
. |
| leamprotan | 06-16-2023 11:33 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy I do have a dynamic IP.
To clarify,
Old cellphone associated with deactivated account using home wifi or mobile network -- tether to provide internet to -- new laptop and new stealth account.
As you've mentioned Hank this shouldnt be a problem even if I do this with multiple accounts all that will have separate laptops for each new account but use the same old cellphone to tether? |
Re: Switching to Residential Proxy What I'm saying is, assuming you monitor your IP's should you eve have multiple accounts, why are you not simply connecting your laptop to your home broadband. |
| leamprotan | 06-17-2023 09:22 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank
(Post 1219645)
What I'm saying is, assuming you monitor your IP's should you eve have multiple accounts, why are you not simply connecting your laptop to your home broadband. | I never tracked IPs from my home address internet while using my original decativated account. This is my first stealth account since being decativated so I thought it would be linked for sure if I connect via my home internet even if it's a new device. Because it is on the same network the deactivated account also accessed at the same physical location. Or is this understanding incorrect. |
Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by leamprotan
(Post 1219656)
I never tracked IPs from my home address internet while using my original decativated account. This is my first stealth account since being decativated so I thought it would be linked for sure if I connect via my home internet even if it's a new device. Because it is on the same network the deactivated account also accessed at the same physical location. Or is this understanding incorrect. | Look up your IP, I'll wager the geolocation isn't anywhere near your address.
Turn off your router and wait half an hour. Turn it back on and bingo, you've a new IP and you've probably moved location.
As I mentioned above, they cannot see any info about your router so if your laptop is 'clean' then you're good to go. |
| leamprotan | 06-18-2023 10:15 PM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank
(Post 1219692)
Look up your IP, I'll wager the geolocation isn't anywhere near your address.
Turn off your router and wait half an hour. Turn it back on and bingo, you've a new IP and you've probably moved location.
As I mentioned above, they cannot see any info about your router so if your laptop is 'clean' then you're good to go. | Would tethering to phone still be safer than home address to ensure no IPs overlap with previous ones that were used to access the deactivated account or is it only device that matters? If not I guess the method would be to track the IPs for each account to make sure they never overlap and just reset the IP when wanting to access a new account. I was just worried geographically or some other way of tracking would get me found out. |
Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by leamprotan
(Post 1219755)
Would tethering to phone still be safer than home address to ensure no IPs overlap with previous ones that were used to access the deactivated account or is it only device that matters? If not I guess the method would be to track the IPs for each account to make sure they never overlap and just reset the IP when wanting to access a new account. I was just worried geographically or some other way of tracking would get me found out. | Hank has explained the process fine for you - tethering to phone works fine for IP. |
| leamprotan | 06-19-2023 09:30 PM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by Hank
(Post 1219692)
Look up your IP, I'll wager the geolocation isn't anywhere near your address.
Turn off your router and wait half an hour. Turn it back on and bingo, you've a new IP and you've probably moved location.
As I mentioned above, they cannot see any info about your router so if your laptop is 'clean' then you're good to go. | So I tried this and it seems to just set the same IP as before - I have a modem and a router. Tried with the router as suggested, waited 30 mins and still the same IP despite being dynamic. I have heard that some will still assign you the same IP even after 24hrs has passed.
I am going to try with the modem tomorrow as that is an all-in-1 that also has WIFI.
Also tried tethering with my phone which mimics the IP address of the phone - if the phone is connected to the mobile network it mimics that IP on the laptop if the phone is connected to the WIFI network it mimics that IP on the laptop. Going to try to turn of mobile data and then turn back on after 30 mins to see if IP changes. |
| leamprotan | 06-20-2023 08:58 AM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy UPDATE:
Switching my phone to airplane mode and then off again changes both the IPv6 and the IPv4 almost instantly. I will track IPs and use usb tethering to operate my stealth accounts.
Going to try opening a new account with this method first before switching my already operating account over to this method just to be safe for the work I've already done.
My modem IPv6 changes with airplane mode but not the IPv4 (I suspect I need to manually reset the modem every time for it to change but haven't tested this). My router does not change at all for IPv6 or IPv4 despite leaving it unplugged for 30+ minutes so it is not a viable option.
Thanks for all your help and input everyone! |
Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by leamprotan
(Post 1219844)
UPDATE:
Switching my phone to airplane mode and then off again changes both the IPv6 and the IPv4 almost instantly. I will track IPs and use usb tethering to operate my stealth accounts.
Going to try opening a new account with this method first before switching my already operating account over to this method just to be safe for the work I've already done.
My modem IPv6 changes with airplane mode but not the IPv4 (I suspect I need to manually reset the modem every time for it to change but haven't tested this). My router does not change at all for IPv6 or IPv4 despite leaving it unplugged for 30+ minutes so it is not a viable option.
Thanks for all your help and input everyone! | Good experience to share :) |
| leamprotan | 06-27-2023 06:46 PM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Yeah I've ended up getting a new cellphone that will be used as a mobile hotspot for the accounts and I'll track my IPs. I didn't want to use my old cellphone as I've logged into my old seller account with it and haven't tracked any of the IPs previously so there is a chance I could reuse.
Better safe than sorry! |
| SaiJin | 06-27-2023 08:23 PM | Re: Switching to Residential Proxy Quote:
Originally Posted by rentarec
(Post 1220320)
I would stay away from all proxies and vpn when running any account. You just have to go to your ISP and get a new Modem and Router. Then use a device that you have never used before with the new IP address | This is not a good advice.
You can't just blanket statement ALL of them.
Sure, MOST are crap but a lot of us use the forum's IP service aka ipburger. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:00 AM. | |
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