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Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1224448)

Ebay gives away free boxes,packing tapes,all stamped Ebay,so this could be one clue you are engaging in retail arbitrage.
Some Ebay sellers like to include a business card,a coupon.
Also some of your buyers are really not buying the merchandise,they are trying to find out where your merchandise come from,or in some cases,are they as described or illegal.
Like I used to sell composite figurines,but someone bought one and decide it is ivory and remove my listing,
Sometimes the manufacturers are buying -a seller claims she goes to Paris every summer and bought Chanel leather goods at discount,well Chanel bought a piece and shut her listings down.
Rolex lawyer not only remove the listing,he will also send letter asking for $$ fine.
US customs,police,FBI,IRS are also active on Ebay..
There is an outfit which is used by some sales venues,it tracks by ip address where we go,how many times we abandon shopping carts,if you receive an order from AMZN and then go to Ebay the same day,looking for the item,that could be a clue.
There is an Ebay seller who is laundering money for ISIS USA,he will sell electronic items and never ship ,someone reported him to FBI.
Recently British Museum director resigned,someone tipped him off that museum items were stolen and listed on Ebay,he paid no attention.

Originally Posted by Apexpursuit (Post 1224486)

Interesting stuff

Originally Posted by amzrocket (Post 1224456)

If a store was selling something for $100 and it still had a $75 price tag on it from another store, you can bet people would complain. Hence why my specific example included "packing slip with price on it." And it's also slightly different because the fact the product is on the shelf means they own it and you can 100% purchase it.

And I would take issue with someone drop shipping to me on an order through Amazon as I know it's against policy, and it's against policy because of issues like non-delivery (and I have had an order canceled by some asshole dropshipper on a hard to find item, I did order something else from them and filed an A-Z claim as payback later on since they strung me along for 2 weeks before cancelling the order). I don't appreciate the fact that someone marked up inventory they don't even own. If I paid more because something was out of stock elsewhere, that's one thing, but for someone to gamble on me having to possibly have an order cancelled because of their business model is not OK with me as a buyer.

You need to look at things from a buyer perspective to understand why policies are set the way they are. Buyers expect an order to be fulfilled after they click buy, end of story. If I buy a product and it turns out to be crappy, oh well, but if a merchant's selling me something they don't even have and cancel the order I will be pissed about that.

Yes, I'm probably the few % of people who are that picky. But getting a few % of your orders getting complaints is all it takes to get an account suspended.

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1224504)

For AMZN,it is a lousy deal,as it would be shipping gifts all over the country and pick up the shipping cost.

Originally Posted by BigLad (Post 1224502)

Nobody send the packing slip with a price on it if they are serious dropshippers.

Like you give a damn about what their policy, you're on a stealth forum and acting like Mr Moral haha

So you're happy enough buying stuff from Ebay and Amazon, these products are often also not owned by them.

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1224555)

AMZN just revised its free shipping for non prime member from $25 to $35/

Originally Posted by logicalogic (Post 1223009)

Interesting, I have also been drop shipping for 12 years and had my merchant fulfilled listings removed, but can still do FBA.

I also do ebay to Amazon, sounds like very similar to what you do. Send me a PM so we can discuss it more.

Have you had a warning about this before?

I very occasionaly would drop ship Amazon to Amazon
I had a warning a year ago, followed by a suspension in February for that which I successfully appealed.

They call it "multiple duplicate tracking numbers" they can see when a tracking number from Amazon's end goes into tracking on your orders, and I figured when I bought from fulfilment by Amazon, thats what did it. I have previously bought from other Amazon sellers who self fulfilled and had no issue, but presumably this is just as easy to detect too.

This latest suspension I had a negative feedback where someone mentioned they got the wrong item and it came from ebay. A notice that my account is under review came in 3 days later followed by suspension a day later. I have not yet appealed.

I believe they are scanning buyer messages and feedbacks for the names of retailers, which flags you for review and then an investigator can spot the signs...large amount of inventory, tracking from different zips all the time, etc.


Let me know how it goes, please PM me so we can chat.

Originally Posted by asicnisduc72hd (Post 1224538)

Dropshipping is agains ToS for a long time now..

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1224509)

No they wouldn't! :pound:

Sometimes there's snippets of value in your posts, unfortunately its lost in all the garbage and off-topic nonsense.

Try to keep it factual.

Originally Posted by Automasters (Post 1228485)

Yep, I gladly provide immediate negative feedbacks for any seller I catch doing this. If I purchase an item, it better ship as claimed in the ad or else. I can overlook small delays and such, but when someone claims to have the item and gives a delivery estimate, but I find it is coming from outside the country, yeah, instant negative feedback and I open a case.

Originally Posted by DENDEN76 (Post 1229006)

Surely sellers ship from different warehouses?

Is it because the tracking location differs from you stated ship from location?

Originally Posted by ErkDaddy (Post 1229009)

Yes huge name brand, multi million dollar companies do... sure. Not a one man band / regular sellers. Even then it would be a few warehouses, when dropshipping if you're doing numbers, your shipping from damn near 100s of zip codes

Originally Posted by quantum (Post 1229118)

I've gone undetected for 2 months now patching up the zip code issue.. knock on wood.. I have a plan B that's in the works as well.. I'm converting the remaining stealth accounts to FBA.

Originally Posted by jcdev (Post 1229144)

HAS ANYONE BEEN ABLE TO PROVE THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE GOODS THEY ARE DROPSHIPPING USING ORDER CONFIRMATIONS FROM EBAY AND OTHER MAJOR STORES?

Of course the logistics part cannot be proven because the goods were shipped from 1000 of zipcodes. There was no unique legitimate supplier. But what about proving the authenticity of goods, if I was dropshipping from ebay without any malicious intent? I wonder what will happen if I submit my ebay order confirmations.

Originally Posted by amzrocket (Post 1229169)

An ebay receipt is not proof of authenticity to anybody. For all you know the products are actually counterfeit because anybody can sell anything on ebay.

Even receipts from major stores stopped being accepted a while ago. Gonna need invoices from legitimate suppliers if you want to prove something nowadays.

Originally Posted by jcdev (Post 1229171)

Agree. Receipts from major stores worked for me last time several years ago and only on new accounts when I was just starting on them. Not when one is already under suspicion.

But I am shocked that no amount of money can now buy a good invoice which will work on Amazon. An ungating service said NO to me.

Anyone has any ideas?

Originally Posted by Apexpursuit (Post 1229140)

Patching it up must be a pain. Did you run any FBA on the stealth accounts before?

Originally Posted by jcdev (Post 1229171)

Agree. Receipts from major stores worked for me last time several years ago and only on new accounts when I was just starting on them. Not when one is already under suspicion.

But I am shocked that no amount of money can now buy a good invoice which will work on Amazon. An ungating service said NO to me.

Anyone has any ideas?

Originally Posted by jcdev (Post 1229171)

Agree. Receipts from major stores worked for me last time several years ago and only on new accounts when I was just starting on them. Not when one is already under suspicion.

But I am shocked that no amount of money can now buy a good invoice which will work on Amazon. An ungating service said NO to me.

Anyone has any ideas?

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1229215)

Like the AMZN notice,they dont want receipts,they want vendor invoice sent to you ,listing product,unit price x quantity.
If you are shipping from 1000 locations,forget the account.
You cant control 1000 dropshippers,

Originally Posted by quantum (Post 1229181)

No this is my first time running FBA on stealth accounts. What are your thoughts on it?

Originally Posted by jcdev (Post 1229231)

Yeah, but the recent news is that

1) Now need to forget also about the FBA inventory, not only the funds. But previously it was always possible to send your FBA inventory back. Now it's impossible to create a removal.

2) Now all of my accounts were blocked at once after working for several years. Also the accounts of the people I know were blocked at the same time. People were using the same dropshipping model and the goods were authentic.