you are engaging in retail arbitrage,not dropshipping and both EBay and AMZN dislike such practice.
Your ebay seller ships to your AMZN customer with what kind of tracking?
is it possible your buy from Ebay seller who also practice retail arbitrage,buy from AMZN and ship to your AMZN buyer?But that should not get your account suspended?
Retail arbitrage requires you to purchase the inventory beforehand. I'm purely a broker which is dropshipping.
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retail arbitrage per Ebay policy,take the customer money and then go to another retailer and ask him to ship the item to your buyer .
note -another retailer -AMZN or Ebay seller are another retailer.so are WMT,TGT,Macy ,JC penny,Big lots,Best buy,SEAR,etc
But how did AMZN find out you are engaging in retail arbitrage?
could be AMZN,PAYPAL,EBAY ARE sharing information.
With PAYPAL,when it finds out an Ebay seller received payment for item XYZ and immediately go to Aliexpress to buy the same item XYZ ,it will suspend the account .
if you upload tracking which shows many different shipping locations
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But OP said he has been doing this for past 12 years !
if you upload tracking which shows many different shipping locations
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same can be said of selling on Ebay and asking AMZN to ship to your Ebay buyers as a GIFT TO A FRIEND,how can one individual have so many friends spread across 50 states,and how generous this individual can be gifting many times a day.
OP is asking his EBay seller to ship to his AMZN buyer.
The Ebay package would have Ebay logo on it as he prints his shipping label on Ebay,may use Ebay box and envelope and tape,all are given away free by Ebay,so any of his AMZN buyers could report him to AMZN.
Some Ebay sellers would also include a business card with his ebay ID inside the package
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Originally Posted by quantum
(Post 1223024)
as mentioned previously, I have multiple accounts. No complaints on any of them as far as I know. These accounts went under all around the same time including others. No warnings and metrics are green. I think tracking makes the most logical sense. Possibly the best way is to purchase tracking through Amazon. |
how is buying tracking from AMZN if you are not the shipper,your ebay seller would be doing the shipping.
and the shipping label would say Ebay
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Originally Posted by Apexpursuit
(Post 1223108)
It’s not the shipping labels. eBay shippers (unless also dropshipping) dont ship from major retail addresses. Dropshipping is allowed on amazon as long as everything follows their dropshipping policy. OP’s feedback sounds like the problem |
I am not referring to the shipping address of Ebay seller,I mean when they print a shipping label on Ebay,it could have the word EBAY on it,or they could use Ebay shipping supplies like packing tape ,box which carries the Ebay logo.
Ebay at one time offers them free to its sellers,
they can also include a business card or coupon inside the package with their ebay ID,email or website/shop name .
whatever,what works for you for the past 12 years is not working now,may be you cans stock up,buy from Ebay ahead of time and ship from home to AMZN buyers
Is OP a retiree?
It sounds rather time consuming-after receiving an AMZN order,he would go to Ebay and find a seller with the item at a lower price,makes sure it meets his description and condition and ship promptly.
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Originally Posted by Apexpursuit
(Post 1223130)
Also a lot of ebay sellers include packing slips with logos and pricing information. That would definitely cause some complaints |
yes,that would piss off his AMZN buyers.
not easy way to make a living-
an Ebay seller may have the merchandise,take poor picture and description but OP has never seen the item,it could be damaged ,dirty,packed poorly,or just sitting on the shelf too long and no longer effective.
I remember buying some packing tapes which no longer work it is never open in original package
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Originally Posted by Apexpursuit
(Post 1223155)
Are you referring to using temporary tracking numbers or amz identifying you for shipping from multiple locations. If temporary tracking where do you get the temporary tracking from? |
no,HE IS asking his ebay seller not to include any packing slip or invice when shipped to his amzn buyer.
oK,he said he is selling IT merchandise to businesses,so he must know what he is doing,finding electronics from ebay small seller.
Ebay seller could not care less whom you resold his item to,as long as he gets the money.
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Originally Posted by csproo
(Post 1223171)
No way. The fraud system doesn't work like that. It mostly depends on the IP and anti-detection technology. |
Paypal is not trying to catch fraud,it is fed up with such dropshipping.
How do you know when you receive an order on AMZN and ask an Ebay seller to ship,that Ebay seller could be coming to AMZN to find someone to buy from?
Many EBAY sellers do not have any merchandise,they will ask WMT,AMZN,Costco,Wayfair to fill the order.
I bought a few things recently on Ebay,they came from WMT.
please do not call them dropshippers,they are retail arbitragers-taking a customer money and then go to another RETAILER to buy and ship the order for you.
AMZN frowns it so now more Ebay sellers are using WMT,as WMT just introduce a $35 membership for speedy shipping.
Ebay gives away free boxes,packing tapes,all stamped Ebay,so this could be one clue you are engaging in retail arbitrage.
Some Ebay sellers like to include a business card,a coupon.
Also some of your buyers are really not buying the merchandise,they are trying to find out where your merchandise come from,or in some cases,are they as described or illegal.
Like I used to sell composite figurines,but someone bought one and decide it is ivory and remove my listing,
Sometimes the manufacturers are buying -a seller claims she goes to Paris every summer and bought Chanel leather goods at discount,well Chanel bought a piece and shut her listings down.
Rolex lawyer not only remove the listing,he will also send letter asking for $$ fine.
US customs,police,FBI,IRS are also active on Ebay..
There is an outfit which is used by some sales venues,it tracks by ip address where we go,how many times we abandon shopping carts,if you receive an order from AMZN and then go to Ebay the same day,looking for the item,that could be a clue.
There is an Ebay seller who is laundering money for ISIS USA,he will sell electronic items and never ship ,someone reported him to FBI.
Recently British Museum director resigned,someone tipped him off that museum items were stolen and listed on Ebay,he paid no attention.
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Originally Posted by amzrocket
(Post 1224455)
That's literally the definition of dropshipping, selling something you don't own and buying it after you get an order.
It's a problem because there's no guarantee the source you're buying it from will have it available when you go to place the order. There's a good reason why you're prohibited from selling inventory you don't own. |
dropshipping vs retail arbitrage=
dropshipping is with your wholesaler/distributor or manUfacturer,not another retailer.
You the eBAY seller is a retailer,so are WMT,AMZN ,AMZN third party seller,Costco,Wayfair,Target,Sears,CVS,Walgreen,Be stbuy,Macy,Nordstrom.
A traditional retailer would not play this retail arbitrage game as there is hardly any profit .buying retail and selling retail,how does he pay his bills?
AMZN shuts down his account as he is abusing his prime membership privilege,asking AMZN to ship to 'HIS FRIEND' as a gift and pays no shipping fee.
Now watch what WMT will do once it finds out WMT members are asking them to ship merchandise all over the country free.
some one said the buyer gets what he deserves,as he is too lazy t o find the cheapest .
I dont think Kroger will say this to its shopper when he complains WMT is cheaper,or WMT will say this to its shopper,when Dollar store is cheaper-that he is too lazy to find the cheapest price.
There is also the venue,Ebay does not like it because the buyer will now go to AMZN or WMT to shop so he does not look lazy or stupid,ditto with AMZN buyer going to Ebay so he can bottomfish for his item.
Quantum said he is not a retail arbitrager,he is a BROKER,excuse me,did his buyer hire him as a broker or they think he is a seller who has the inventory on hand?
In a way,I think this is really unfair for those sellers who put their time and money on the line and paid for these merchandise ,take pictures,describe them,and pack the item and take it to the post office to ship them. while the arbitragers just sit home and right click stock photos from AMZN,WMT and ask them to do the packing,labeling and shipping .
Also the seller with the merchandise has to buy packing material, and gas to drive to the post office
There are also foreign Ebay sellers who are playing this arbitrage game,one US dollar may mean little to us,but could buy you a meal to keep your stomach full in some countries.
The problem with such arrangement is return,I think AMZN is now saying it would not offer free return,one would have to pay for return to AMZN.
That's literally the definition of dropshipping, selling something you don't own and buying it after you get an order.
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No,selling something you dont have,then take the retail customer's money and go to another retailer to place an order and have that retailer ship the order is not dropshipping,it is retail arbitrage.
It is basically a SMART ASS game,no capital to buy inventory,no need to pack and ship,just sit in front of your device and right click photo,list item online and let someone does the dirty work for you.
For Ebay,it collects the fee,but down the road,its buyers will buy from AMZN so Ebay will try to stop such practice.
For AMZN,it is a lousy deal,as it would be shipping gifts all over the country and pick up the shipping cost.
We will find out what WMT,COSTCO,TGT,BESTBUY of the world,how they like such practice ?
It is also unfair for those Ebay sellers who have inventory and have to compete with these arbitragers.
Arbitragers can afford to make little profit and count on volume,but the ones with inventory cannot afford to make a nickel and be happy,they may have to leave Ebay and try t o sell elsewhere.
And I would say the majority of ebay/amazon sellers own the products and are not dropshipping them.
I agree,most are honest sellers who own the products BUT
do yourself a favor and go take a look at sellers who use stock photos ,they are not selling antiques or handmade goods,they are selling clocks,saws,ruler,scotch tape,stapler,ink cartridge,nuts,candies,fans,lenswipe.
AMZN just revised its free shipping for non prime member from $25 to $35/