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Starship 01-16-2024 04:34 PM

Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Router MAC address is very likely visible to amazon. Can anyone with insider confirm? So far they took action on Turkish sellers only. Maybe later they will against USA

What do we do now?

Automasters 01-16-2024 07:06 PM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Mac address can be spoofed, but I doubt this will be needed

rsot 01-17-2024 08:33 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starship (Post 1233685)
Router MAC address is very likely visible to amazon. Can anyone with insider confirm? So far they took action on Turkish sellers only. Maybe later they will against USA

What do we do now?

took action on Turkish sellers? source of this info?

Starship 01-17-2024 11:58 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
All Turkish sellers I know who have multiple accounts have somehow been found recently

Only culprit we can think of is MAC address as we take great steps to keep everything separate , so far USA accounts are fine but this is very worrying

https://sellercentral.amazon.com/sel...e-c1d93244f9af



Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1233710)
took action on Turkish sellers? source of this info?


Starship 01-17-2024 11:58 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
How do we spoof one MAC address per laptop? Is it possible?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Automasters (Post 1233687)
Mac address can be spoofed, but I doubt this will be needed


murdered_by_ebay 01-17-2024 12:27 PM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
there are likely not so many turkish sellers so that MAC address should not be considered a primary factor

I would rather say they clipped all sellers from specific categories and locations

Jackies 01-17-2024 04:40 PM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Why u dont use antidetect browser in 2024?

Starship 01-17-2024 06:57 PM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Are you sure this won’t make amazon bots angry and bring attention to you?

QUOTE=Jackies;1233743]Why u dont use antidetect browser in 2024?[/QUOTE]

Stealth1738 01-17-2024 10:06 PM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Anti detect software is mandatory if you want to avoid detection in 2024..

Stealth1738 01-17-2024 10:07 PM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starship (Post 1233750)
Are you sure this won’t make amazon bots angry and bring attention to you?

QUOTE=Jackies;1233743]Why u dont use antidetect browser in 2024?

[/QUOTE]Check your ip score and pixelscan status if you're worried about bots finding you out. Only way you get detected is if you fk up opsec or use high risk proxy/vpn.

99p 01-18-2024 06:54 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stealth1738 (Post 1233754)
Anti detect software is mandatory if you want to avoid detection in 2024..


Can You give me an example of anti detect software please?

Jackies 01-18-2024 08:28 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 99p (Post 1233763)
Can You give me an example of anti detect software please?

look for browsers that provide a real Canvas fingerprint, you are supposed to blend in with the crowd - not be unique
for learning and comparison use browserleaks.com/canvas and browserleaks.com/webgl

use only proven proxies - not blacklisted ones

Starship 01-18-2024 08:32 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
So browsers like google chrome Firefox safari etc are all vulnerable we need different browser?

Jackies 01-18-2024 08:41 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starship (Post 1233769)
So browsers like google chrome Firefox safari etc are all vulnerable we need different browser?

if you want to be 99% isolated from your current device - you have to use ADB which will provide you with a completely different fingerprint (and it is best that it is not completely unique)
If markeplace checks web gl and canvas - then a new windows user is not enough. I don't know what it's like on Amazon and whether they check web gl and canvas or whether they are based only on cookies etc

Starship 01-18-2024 09:17 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Can’t we just use new device and then not worry about browser?

rsot 01-18-2024 09:18 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starship (Post 1233780)
Can’t we just use new device and then not worry about browser?

that's one option that always exists

Jackies 01-18-2024 11:41 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starship (Post 1233780)
Can’t we just use new device and then not worry about browser?

yes you can, I wrote what to do to manage multiple accounts from one device

Starship 01-19-2024 06:09 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Ok back to Mac router address

Can anyone confirm 100% amazon cannot see this?

I believe we may need to hide this now based on my talks with many many suspended foreign sellers this last week

rsot 01-19-2024 09:06 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starship (Post 1233864)
Ok back to Mac router address

Can anyone confirm 100% amazon cannot see this?

I believe we may need to hide this now based on my talks with many many suspended foreign sellers this last week

Mac router address has been a myth for years but I haven't explored this lately so waiting for other tech ppl to chime in

Phd 01-19-2024 04:29 PM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Refresh my memory. Are we talking about computer address or router address?

Thanks
PhD

Starship 01-20-2024 02:50 PM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
PhD,

Router address

Foreign sellers with multi accounts suspended in mass, something changed in the last month. This is completely new we suspect router MAC address. I suspect soon they will roll out to USA maektetplaxe

agent006140 01-20-2024 08:42 PM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starship (Post 1233685)
Router MAC address is very likely visible to amazon. Can anyone with insider confirm? So far they took action on Turkish sellers only. Maybe later they will against USA

What do we do now?

May be there is something different in Turkey

Phd 01-21-2024 10:50 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starship (Post 1233990)
PhD,

Router address

Foreign sellers with multi accounts suspended in mass, something changed in the last month. This is completely new we suspect router MAC address. I suspect soon they will roll out to USA maektetplaxe

So with 2 US accts, I use an internet stick on 1, and my phone on another.

2 CND accts I use land internet on one, and the same internet stick on the other. The stick is switched between IVP4 for US and IVP6 for CND.

Looks like I am safe.

Thanks
PhD

rsot 01-21-2024 12:11 PM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Based on the nature of the accounts and difference of country base, I'd say it's safe for the IP aspect

Starship 01-22-2024 04:37 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Hey mate so the solution would be to use one internet stick per account?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phd (Post 1234046)
So with 2 US accts, I use an internet stick on 1, and my phone on another.

2 CND accts I use land internet on one, and the same internet stick on the other. The stick is switched between IVP4 for US and IVP6 for CND.

Looks like I am safe.

Thanks
PhD


SaiJin 01-22-2024 05:38 PM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starship (Post 1233780)
Can’t we just use new device and then not worry about browser?

this is what I've been telling people. Stop F'ing around and cutting corners.
GET a new laptop, they are cheap.

ANtidetect browsers can cause so much issues with amazon I don't recommend it.

Phd 01-23-2024 07:37 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starship (Post 1234097)
Hey mate so the solution would be to use one internet stick per account?

The old school ways can still work. Just think that everything needs to be different.

PhD

rsot 01-23-2024 08:27 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starship (Post 1234097)
Hey mate so the solution would be to use one internet stick per account?

Great advice has been given - time for you to implement

SaiJin 01-23-2024 10:44 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phd (Post 1234178)
The old school ways can still work. Just think that everything needs to be different.

PhD

to clarify the above, old way works. Basics work, then we use the forum for more specialized solutions because things change all the time.

It's not as easy as you get the amazon ghost then you are set for life.
That's not how business works

Phd 01-23-2024 08:27 PM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1234205)
to clarify the above, old way works. Basics work, then we use the forum for more specialized solutions because things change all the time.

It's not as easy as you get the amazon ghost then you are set for life.
That's not how business works

Well said Saijin

No better advice than what you said.

PhD

chris100 01-24-2024 04:32 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Surely VM player is still the way to go rather than getting different devices?

OldTom 01-24-2024 05:07 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
First of all they can't see your MAC address, they can only see the MAC address of the last data packet handler which is your service provider. The only way they could is if you install a client service such as the Amazon seller app (see the TiKToK case where they used their app to gather such data).

In OP's case then there's another link, too much has been read into their claim.

Although it's only hearsay I'm happy to run with the suggestion that Windows leaks information between user accounts, so your best options are separate machines or VMware. The latter is what I use but will concede that they might be able to assume its a virtual machine but there's absolutely no chance of them linking my accounts on the same PC. (IP address excluded, I have dedicated VPNs for each)

jonass 01-24-2024 07:30 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starship (Post 1233724)
How do we spoof one MAC address per laptop? Is it possible?

Use multiple VM instances for each profile, You can change the mac address on Virtual box or Vmware for each profile, randomly or Customized. You can also buy a usb wifi adapter and you can use that to connect to your hotspot or router and you can have another mac address, but be sure to disable you the other adapter.

SaiJin 01-24-2024 10:59 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phd (Post 1234253)
Well said Saijin

No better advice than what you said.

PhD

Just iterating what you already said so newbies get a clearer picture.

Too many people think that it has to be a new way and when there is a new way, they'll be millionaires overnight without issues.

Starship 01-25-2024 11:13 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
I was running multiple VMware all accounts with VMware are dead last month. Including accounts that were 8 years old

rsot 01-25-2024 11:15 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starship (Post 1234366)
I was running multiple VMware all accounts with VMware are dead last month. Including accounts that were 8 years old

8 year old accounts gone? That's rough to hear - any specific reason provided? Risky item sales?

99p 01-25-2024 03:35 PM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackies (Post 1233770)
if you want to be 99% isolated from your current device - you have to use ADB which will provide you with a completely different fingerprint (and it is best that it is not completely unique)
If markeplace checks web gl and canvas - then a new windows user is not enough. I don't know what it's like on Amazon and whether they check web gl and canvas or whether they are based only on cookies etc

What ADB means,please?

99p 01-25-2024 03:51 PM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackies (Post 1233766)
look for browsers that provide a real Canvas fingerprint, you are supposed to blend in with the crowd - not be unique
for learning and comparison use browserleaks.com/canvas and browserleaks.com/webgl

use only proven proxies - not blacklisted ones

On PC NR 1 I use Microsoft edge browser it says 99/99% ( 15 of 156078 user agents have the same signature)

ON PC nr 2 I use Brave browser and it says 100% (this signature is unique to Our database)

Both PC's have multiple users ebay, etsy etc

Starship 01-28-2024 03:49 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Same suspension reason as first post. Amazon found new way to link accounts


Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1234367)
8 year old accounts gone? That's rough to hear - any specific reason provided? Risky item sales?


jonass 01-29-2024 12:24 AM

Re: Everyone with multiple accounts can be tracked soon?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starship (Post 1234547)
Same suspension reason as first post. Amazon found new way to link accounts

were you using the vpn or proxy on the browser ? you should tunnel the whole system and also be sure to prevent any ip leaks


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