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01-31-2024
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If you guys haven't noticed, there's been a lot of suspensions even when you're innocent on Amazon, we found out that it's the retarded AI that's deciding the accounts are "risky".
I hope the humans in amazon start to realize this before they kill themselves and make sellers and buyers go to different platforms to shop.
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I'm noticing it. It's becoming increasingly difficult to be on here. I'm also noticing a lot less competitors on this platform. Which also makes it more lucrative.
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Hey SaiJin, i’ve noticed this on Amazon & eBay this all started towards the middle of last year and ongoing up until now, i was actually going to open a thread related to this here on how AI is going to effect stealth because i can only see that it will get worse and of course these muppets are going to loose money and customers over this if they become solely reliant on AI to make these type of decisions its not looking good for stealth if i must say. Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin If you guys haven't noticed, there's been a lot of suspensions even when you're innocent on Amazon, we found out that it's the retarded AI that's deciding the accounts are "risky".
I hope the humans in amazon start to realize this before they kill themselves and make sellers and buyers go to different platforms to shop. | |
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amazon have been limiting competition for a long time which makes them more and more expensive , AI suspensions is just the latest tool to do this
interestingly they try to fight rising prices with even more limitations , I have heard from several sellers there are price limits now where certain items are not allowed to be listed higher than a specific price
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All my competitors were suspended in 2023 in party supplies except one guy and me
I messaged him and amazon threatened to suspend him 2 times in 2023, it’s party supplies private label and they still made us go through video verification and supplier verification WTF LOL each seller is the brand owner and we are getting molested
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Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay amazon have been limiting competition for a long time which makes them more and more expensive , AI suspensions is just the latest tool to do this
interestingly they try to fight rising prices with even more limitations , I have heard from several sellers there are price limits now where certain items are not allowed to be listed higher than a specific price | I have a book reasonably priced at $15,but some one listed at $700,so they removed my listing .
Then they removed the one at $700 and I have to add mine back.
Then I have another book at $12 and others listed at 1.99-3.99,so it was removed? Then they closed my account,I asked why,they said it should not be closed,so they re open it?
Fun???
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Originally Posted by agent006140 I have a book reasonably priced at $15,but some one listed at $700,so they removed my listing .
Then they removed the one at $700 and I have to add mine back.
Then I have another book at $12 and others listed at 1.99-3.99,so it was removed? Then they closed my account,I asked why,they said it should not be closed,so they re open it?
Fun??? | so insightful..
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It's only going to get worse across the whole industry. You have to diversify and learn how to build your own stores and run ads.
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Originally Posted by agent006140 I have a book reasonably priced at $15,but some one listed at $700,so they removed my listing .
Then they removed the one at $700 and I have to add mine back.
Then I have another book at $12 and others listed at 1.99-3.99,so it was removed? Then they closed my account,I asked why,they said it should not be closed,so they re open it?
Fun??? | sounds like you are being targeted by competition in those book listings
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Are these accounts you all are referencing fresh, or do they have some time and sales under them?
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Originally Posted by 13obby Hey SaiJin, i’ve noticed this on Amazon & eBay this all started towards the middle of last year and ongoing up until now, i was actually going to open a thread related to this here on how AI is going to effect stealth because i can only see that it will get worse and of course these muppets are going to loose money and customers over this if they become solely reliant on AI to make these type of decisions its not looking good for stealth if i must say. | Right! AMazon is a great place for business if you know what you're doing, but this AI crap is not just killing sellers and buyers, it's killing the platform too.
eBay is pretty much down the drain, I wonder if Amazon is as stupid as eBay to kill themselves.
With the rise of tiktok shop and Temu, buyers and sellers are starting to move their business there.
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Originally Posted by Starship All my competitors were suspended in 2023 in party supplies except one guy and me
I messaged him and amazon threatened to suspend him 2 times in 2023, it’s party supplies private label and they still made us go through video verification and supplier verification WTF LOL each seller is the brand owner and we are getting molested |
FIrst of all, please add the country flag to your forum account you're residing in.
Back to topic, ALL your competitors? How many are there?
I'm just wondering if limiting competition to limit price increases is really what they are after?
I'd think more competition = less prices.
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Originally Posted by DENDEN76 It's only going to get worse across the whole industry. You have to diversify and learn how to build your own stores and run ads. | Agreed on this. Purchasing multiple accounts is starting to get really expensive on my end. And these accounts don't last very long.
Would pay good money on a guide on how to create multiple stealth accounts using LLC tax IDs and bypassing all US inform act requests. Not looking to hunt down friends/family members to use their info.
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Originally Posted by agent006140 I have a book reasonably priced at $15,but some one listed at $700,so they removed my listing .
Then they removed the one at $700 and I have to add mine back.
Then I have another book at $12 and others listed at 1.99-3.99,so it was removed? Then they closed my account,I asked why,they said it should not be closed,so they re open it?
Fun??? |
amazon have become unreliable , they constantly remove titles from catalogue , ban sellers from selling specific titles , limit prices at which other items can be sold. this attitude has made it impossible to buy large quantities of items to sell on amazon specifically as you could be banned from selling the title anytime
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Same I only order one months supply now, years ago I would order 6 month supply straight to fba Quote:
Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay amazon have become unreliable , they constantly remove titles from catalogue , ban sellers from selling specific titles , limit prices at which other items can be sold. this attitude has made it impossible to buy large quantities of items to sell on amazon specifically as you could be banned from selling the title anytime | |
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What's the reason for the suspensions?
I've had accounts suspended but there's usually a clearly defined reason behind it, it's almost never just "random"
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Are you guys still facing suspensions todate?
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Originally Posted by SaiJin Are you guys still facing suspensions todate? | I got 3 suspensions in the past month, but all of them had a reason behind them. They weren't just random suspensions.
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Thanks for posting this! Etsy is also doing this as well, lost a rock-solid account back in September, and another one a few months later..
Etsy may be done for my niche. Like you all have noticed, many of my competitors also wiped out. A sad day!!
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Yes, this is the plan across the board sadly - as the human die off continues, ai will be put in charge of all major marketplaces and platforms. It is very unstable and makes errors frequently
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Originally Posted by Automasters Yes, this is the plan across the board sadly - as the human die off continues, ai will be put in charge of all major marketplaces and platforms. It is very unstable and makes errors frequently | This. And good luck appealing the bot's decision with the dwindling human resources available to sellers.
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Originally Posted by Automasters Yes, this is the plan across the board sadly - as the human die off continues, ai will be put in charge of all major marketplaces and platforms. It is very unstable and makes errors frequently | Very very true. I fully agree with this
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