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More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

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We have reviewed the documentation you provided and determined that it does not meet our requirements for the following reasons:

File name: invoice from supplier

-- You have provided an invoice that has not been fulfilled by the supplier.

Re: More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

no reason to be surprised , amazon have been actively putting pressure on parties involved in selling

just a couple of weeks ago , for example , I received a message from amazon about my payments to wise being blocked until wise conduct additional verification of my account and let amazon know the result asking me to contact wise so that they start verification

you think if they can do it with companies like wise they do not do it with suppliers?

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In specific cases in the United States, a company cannot give out personal information about a customer.
So if you sell car tires and Amazon asks you for an invoice.
You buy a well-made ⊗⊗⊗⊗ invoice and Amazon believes it to be true and will simply accept it. By law, they cannot ask for information about what a customer buys.

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Yes, it's known that they do call suppliers from time to time.

No,they can.
When I apply for an account with a wholesaler,distributor ,manufacturer,they can ask for 2 references from other wholesalers I do business with.
NET 30 MEANS you have 30 days to pay your bills,what if you take off without paying?

also AMZN in a way is helping to stop sale of counterfeit,knock offs,so it helps them

I have never heard of such law,

this is not an invoice,it is a retail receipt.it just shows someone bought an item at the retail store.

There is this guy on this forum said he created a website as his supplier and wait for AMZN to call,but AMZN did not call him.

For some merchandise,the manufacturer has a list of approved wholesalers/distributors,so it is easy to verify,eg Leica camera,Rolex watches.
And some do not even have any,such as Tiffany,Chanel.
Someone sold Chanel leather handbags etc on Ebay,claiming they go to Paris every summer and picked up for sale items in a stores and even showed credit card receipts ,Chanel moved in and removed all her listings.

AMZN also could ask the manufacturers for a list of wholesalers,I bet they are more than happy to supply them

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they have a list of authorized suppliers , any supplier who refuses to give out information will have their invoices rejected which is eventually a problem for the seller

I suspect that all of these authorized suppliers also have amazon as a major buyer for their own sales with a dedicated manager processing their orders and I doubt they would be in the mood of losing amazon as customer

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Maybe not giving out personal information, but they confirm whether the invoice number is real or ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

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Surely on your invoice you used a normal shipping provider such as USPS or FEDEX or one of these.
You must use a provider where a tracking number is not required.
The invoice you deliver to Amazon must be an invoice with a stamp that looks real. you must place your username and quantities sold on a separate piece of paper

Re: More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

what law are you referring to

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That would make sense, but it doesn't have a tracking number.. only order number, invoice number, and reference number. Shipping info says "multiple" so there's no way Amazon could track this order.

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Also.. this invoice I sent to Amazon is a big box retailer. I would imagine that it's a bit easier to confirm invoices with a big box retailer. It might be a bit different with smaller name wholesalers/distributors.

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No phone call required for this one. Instant rejection for retailer receipts.

They want invoices from your wholesaler or supplier.

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Absolutely correct. Same in most parts of the world. There is no way that Amazon are calling wholesalers demanding, nor expecting, confidential customer information.

They might, just might, call the supplier to see if the pick up the phone but I even doubt that. IMO it is a myth that the have access to our information fueled by fanciful hearsay. No one has ever provided any proof that Amazon have successfully persuaded anyone to divulge personal and confidential business agreements.

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Not true. You've simply made that up.

Show us where you found this agreement.

If this 'list' did exist how many sellers do you think use them? I'd guess at less than 1%. It's too ridiculous to take seriously.

I suspect you are, as always seems to be the case with your posts, scaremongering and being deliberately negative. You are forever telling folk you have access to information nobody else has ever heard of. Why you persist in doing this I do not know other than maybe having some 'motive'.

No wonder this forum is collapsing with deliberate misinformation being digested as true.

Re: More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

show us that such an agreement does not exist? amazon wrote many times about authorized suppliers and not authorized suppliers

the forum has less activity because too many people got kicked out , there are barely any account sellers left too

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Fantastic logic :pound:

But I didn't expect any other kind of answer...because you simply can't offer a single shred of evidence that they do, and definitely can't prove that wholesalers will hand over our confidential details willy-nilly.

So if your fantasy list of wholesalers did exist, what percentage of Amazon sellers do you think use this list? Where do you think my 'less than 1%' would stand in your world?

EDIT: I seem to remember you saying it was in the user agreement, a link to that will do.

Re: More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

You seems don’t know Amazon, they can do things which we think are not possible
Have a look email which they send to wholesalers or suppliers to confirm

Hello,



A third party seller on Amazon has provided us with invoices from your company. We would like to verify the details of the transaction.



Invoice Number: xxxx

Date: xxx

Item Purchased: xxx

Qty: xxx



Please confirm that this information matches your records. Any additional information you can provide will be helpful as well.



We appreciate your assistance in this matter. Any information shared will be kept confidential.



Reference Number: xxxxxx



Regards,

Amazon Invoice Verification Team

Re: More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

Firstly, that's not a phone call. :)

Secondly, why has this email never been aired before? I think you've just made that up, looks like a child wrote it. :lol:

"Amazon Invoice Verification Team" ....beyond funny. :pound:

Re: More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

Not true. Invoices from big box retailers work, you just have to resubmit a few times. Just because it's from a big box retailer doesn't mean it's a retail receipt.

Re: More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

Okay, submit it again then. Problem solved.

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If you read the original post, I didn't state that I had an issue. Just pointing out that Amazon does verify these invoices in some way.

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Pretty certain most reader would view your post as having a problem.

In your case they didn't verify it, they simply declined it outright - not sure what made you think they'd gone to any trouble and I can assure you they didn't call, or send e2free's email to your big box retailer.

Re: More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

You don’t know nothing about Amazon, I do get calls from Amazon to verify invoices and these emails I run popular brand in uk and they call us all the time and sometime email
Over they say similar things if you decline to answer they reject the invoice simple
Go sell stuff on Amazon and learn about Amazon before making comments

Re: More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

I think I can just about make some sense of that. :redface:

Been selling on Amazon for well over a decade, been on the main forum and independent forums for just as long. Never seen any proof yet that they call, send emails or that suppliers would blindly roll over and divulge confidential information if they did.

You'd think someone would have posted some evidence by now wouldn't you?

If you think your made-up email is going to convince me you're mistaken.

You'll have to forgive me if I take anything you say seriously after your ridiculous claim on the SIM thread that I don't have a 5 year old active PAYG sim when I clearly do. Not sure why you think I would lie about such a relatively minor matter but you will have your reason no doubt.

Nope, I think it's you who doesn't know what they're talking about, :thumb:


Anyway, do you have any proof that Amazon have a list of approved wholesalers with an agreement in place with the seller to divulge customer information. You seem to be in an ideal position to verify or refute this assertion given you claim 'to run a popular brand in uk'.

Re: More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

STOP BICKERING. BOTH OF YOU.


Now back to topic, I'm with e2free on this one. They do call, not all the time but they do call.

Re: More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

I'm pretty certain you didn't read the original post. Amazon clearly states that the order hasn't been fulfilled. Logically, most people would assume Amazon reached out somehow to verify if order was fulfilled.

Re: More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

some ppl have done that - takes effort and time but can work to be in control of all steps

Re: More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

I actually paid a guy that did this a few years ago when it worked. Things changed and he's no longer in business. I know a few ungating businesses that went under. All of their methods were different.

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if this is not a supplier known to amazon they reject invoices right away

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I've asked you before but you never seem to answer, what percentage of suppliers do you think 'are know' to Amazon and appear on your (fictional) pre-approved list?

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it's an easy copout for AZ for sure...

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Amazon don't need a 'copout', if the invoice doesn't meed a specified format they simply reject it. it's Amazon after all, we are all agreed they're uncaring AI bots.

Lets not forget that this forum is not representative of the real world. Most here will be submitting dubious paperwork, are dropshippers (which I know is acceptable if done correctly) , retail arbitragers etc.

Then Amazon have software to analyze documents, this too will highlight anomalies.

I've had to submit invoices in the past, they were accepted without issue. I suspect anyone operating a proper account will have had the same experience. The skill on any selling platform is, as has been said many times, to act, look and behave normal and have everything that is going be be asked for presented in a recognised format . Hard with stealth but it has to be done.

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it is not a fiction , amazon only accept suppliers who deliver to businesses and who have a certain size and degree of popularity

any kind of retail supplier or smaller less known supplier is always rejected , most likely they first check if they ever accepted an invoice from that supplier in the past , if not the current invoice will be rejected

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For crying out loud, we've gone from an approved wholesaler list to sellers of a certain (undefined) size and..to quote, "a degree of popularity". What on earth does any of that nonsense mean?? You do realise that Amazon work via a catalogue system with FBA actively encouraged and endless paid-for promotions - there's no popularity contest on Amazon! :pound: :pound:

You're going to continue with this comedy show aren't you and not answer my simple question(s) above are you...because you can't.

You post so much made up rubbish I am beginning to think you're trying to undermine any good work and advice this forum has to offer. You're a dangerous character IMO.

Re: More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

do not bull**** people here , it has been a known fact for years that amazon accept invoices from certain suppliers only , I doubt you ever had invoices accepted otherwise you would know how strict they are with ungating and reinstating removed listings

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There's only one person here full of bull, you never supply any collaborating evidence or answer rational questions put to you - all you do is demand folk believe you and throw out insults.

You are welcome to doubt I've had any invoices accepted, that is your prerogative.

Not sure how I'm supposed to guess how strict they are from behind my own accounts, and I do believe they are for sure, as I only have my own experience to go by which hasn't been too arduous. If I ever ask them to ungate a product for me I guess I'll find out.

As an aside, I have had the odd ASIN I list against removed, but as I didn't create them I just delete the listing, check the 'I know I've been a naughty boy' box and the violation is removed. I have never been asked for invoices for this kind of violation and I have no intention of trying to get it re-instated as I wasn't the creator.

If the item was a good seller and I think I can recover it's visibility I'll then create my own ASIN.

If you sold on Amazon you'd know how to play the game.

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it seems that the evidence you need is a letter addressed to you by bezos with a detailed explanation and his signature

judging from your text though you never reinstated a blocked listing or ungated a category , if you sold on amazon you probably know they can block you specifically from selling on an ASIN and it does not matter who the creator is

Re: More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

Anything will do, anything at all however small it may be.

Even a link to where you claimed it was in their policy that we give permission for them to contact our suppliers :)

Pretty certain that's EXACTLY what I just said. :boink:

Re: More evidence that Amazon calls suppliers to verify invoices...
 

you read their policy carefully and you will see they can do whatever they like , for example stating that your information can be shared with interested parties , your permission is not needed for anything as you would not be able to do anything against them unless you want to be suspended

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I've read it and can't find anything about giving permission to contact our suppliers, any chance of a link to the part you've clearly read?

If you were an Amazon seller as you claim it shouldn't be too difficult, clearly I'm not as search-capable as you.

Not only would you be helping me out you could prove me wrong, win-win for you. :)