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moomooj 05-09-2009 02:09 AM

Unfortunately I did not read the threads before setting up my Amazon account and starting selling.:redface: So I didn't know about the 14 day hold. In the first 48 hours, I sold about 14 items total around $700. Then got an email stating that my account in under review, and payment is being held for at least 30 days. So what do I do now? Do I ship the items? Or refund all customers and just ditch the account? Please advise. Thanks!

BTW, in the email they did say the following:

While our review can take as many as 30 days to complete, you may be able to expedite the release of your funds by providing us with the following information:

1. Tracking numbers for deliveries with corresponding Amazon.com order numbers
2. Current retail or online sales channels including links to selling pages
3. Verification that items listed for sale are in stock and available for delivery
4. Expected monthly sales volume on Amazon.com

Vicvelcro 05-09-2009 02:13 AM

If you can ship the items without cutting into your liquid funds, then ship.

If you can provide legitimate information that Amazon requests, do it.

If you can't afford the possibility that Amazon will ZORCH your account anyway, then refund, flail, and bail.

ebaykilla 05-09-2009 09:07 AM

when this happened to me, i sent the info and finds were released in a few days.

alied786 05-11-2009 07:35 PM

ebaykilla, I've read your posts and you seem to be very knowledgeable about this...one question...my account was suspended and the 2nd seems to be working fine right now...but today, I made the dreadful mistake of typing my suspended email and password while logging in to my seller account...I pressed enter, and then within a second I pressed escape key..and it didn't go to next page...what will happen ? Will they suspend me ? because I actually did not get to the next page, I pressed escape and it stopped right away..if they are to suspend me, how long will they take to tell me about that?

ebaykilla 05-12-2009 05:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alied786 (Post 87067)
ebaykilla, I've read your posts and you seem to be very knowledgeable about this...one question...my account was suspended and the 2nd seems to be working fine right now...but today, I made the dreadful mistake of typing my suspended email and password while logging in to my seller account...I pressed enter, and then within a second I pressed escape key..and it didn't go to next page...what will happen ? Will they suspend me ? because I actually did not get to the next page, I pressed escape and it stopped right away..if they are to suspend me, how long will they take to tell me about that?

if they have not linked you by the time you read this, you are fine (for now). the amazon 'bots usually kill you in 12 hrs. but you may be linked at another time so move ahead and sell until that happens.

alied786 05-12-2009 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaykilla (Post 87125)
if they have not linked you by the time you read this, you are fine (for now). the amazon 'bots usually kill you in 12 hrs. but you may be linked at another time so move ahead and sell until that happens.

thanks for the reply! so far they haven't done anything...I'm thinking that since I didn't navigate to the next page I might be safe, hopefully...I was always afraid I might end up doing something silly like this, because I use my old suspended email address on other sites and this accident was just meant to happen sooner or later.

homer7 05-13-2009 07:29 AM

Amazon experience and question too:
 
Well , from what i've read here,we do have a lot of amazon sellers.
I have been playing the ebay game for over 5 years and the amazon one for more than 3 .
I've had over 40 accounts , and now like 15 active.i never got a suspended ebay account after i found out about aspkin.com.
But the amazon game is a complete different subject.i've had over 20 accounts , and last night i got the last one suspended(linked to a suspended user.it was the one that lasted me longer (5 months), and guess what i started so slow and so afraid that i never got a review.can you believe that?
With this last account i was juggling with other 5 more accounts , but all those 5 got suspended in a week(1 month ago).i wasn't really selling anything big or anything at all.i even started selling booksfirst. I added bank account to some after 15 days , and the others didn't even had the bank account added.
They also do something else besides sending you the famous blocked account email: They just won't let you log in, yep , no email , no nothing, and it's not the first time it happens to me.so you start calling them or emailing them , and when they want to , they will just send you that email after all that hard time you've been through.
.they also call your registered number from time to time , to check on it , they do not speak, i think it's a machine.they call you and then they hang up.i know it's them , because i get the vumbers email caller id .
So i guess that's what suspended me , because sometimes i couldn't get the call , and they would get my real cellphone answering machine.
Also flash cookies weredoing it's thing with me , i just didn't know .
What i don't get is that i have every single account with it's own user account,with it's own aol installation everything separated.and i still get suspended.

Come on take it on me and let me know your comments.
Also i have a question , specially for those who got suspended without shipping all the sold goods.
I still have like $800 worth of merchandise that i haven't shipped because i didn't have it at the time of the sales.
Do you guys think i should keep them items and not ship them , because my account is already suspended, that user id is already deleted with all it's data.
Will that get me in to any trouble , knowing that my bank account is real , but all the rest of my info there is stealth.
Will they do anything about it , because i know the buyers will try to get their money from them

i ask this question , bacause everybody , when you get suspended from ebay , you just don't pay the seller fees .
So there you go .thank you very much , and you are more than wellcome to say anything you think and want,i'm all eyes .

ebaykilla 05-13-2009 08:49 AM

If you got paid and the money hit your account..ship the items. Be honorable. If you did not get paid issue a refund thru amazon.

Vicvelcro 05-13-2009 11:15 AM

The buyers aren't at fault. If you received the money, send the goods. Why penalize the innocent because of the guilty?

alied786 05-13-2009 12:00 PM

When mine got suspended I did ship my items out because the money was in my account..even though I had to wait 90 days to withdraw it. If you're not going to ship, then refund the buyers, because they will get their money sooner or later from you any way if they don't receive their product.

leadsy 06-06-2009 07:37 PM

I had an amazon account up for about a month and a half without bank info... Yesterday I put my new bank account info in, and disbursed a little over a thousand and within an 2 hours it was suspended. What did i do wrong?

GreenBean 06-06-2009 07:47 PM

leadsy, A new account with amazon gets a bank account added AND then
$1000 moves thro' the account: what do you think amazon thought? Chance of fraud in their eyes.
See leaving the account without a bank account is reasonable but then to add one, then move any amount of money will look bad.:pout:

NO ID 06-07-2009 12:49 AM

Selling On The River
 
All you need to know about selling on AMAZON!!

The first-ever guide to Amazon.com designed especially for eBay Sellers:good:

JohnnyBoy 06-07-2009 10:21 AM

Amazon doesn't seem like they leave it to chance like ebay/paypal sometime do. They rather get rid of you now if they suspect something than worry about what you might do later on. I took 1500 in 3 days and got suspended with 0 feedback. Yea that was dumb. The new account I'm taking it slow. Built up feedback first and now I increase sales by 200 every settlement. Going smoothe.

ruexbluesummer 06-08-2009 04:17 PM

just to add to the amazon fire...

wondering, if you "change your address"--
can amazon track the address on your bank account?

I got a new credit card, but the address on it is from my suspended account.

can they look up that sort of information?

Vicvelcro 06-08-2009 09:11 PM

Yes they can. They probably won't go through the hassle of doing it through the bank, though. Expect it to be done by the credit card number...

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruexbluesummer (Post 90597)
just to add to the amazon fire...

wondering, if you "change your address"--
can amazon track the address on your bank account?

I got a new credit card, but the address on it is from my suspended account.

can they look up that sort of information?


yehindabay 06-09-2009 10:01 PM

can amazon check who's name the bank account is under? For example, if I sign up with Amazon with John Doe and the bank account is linked to James Smith, will the know and suspend?

Also, If I get my friend who lives 10-15 minutes away to sell the same thing on Amazon, does he have to go slow also?

Vicvelcro 06-09-2009 10:30 PM

Technically, they can find out. There are ways to do this without them breaking any privacy laws. But from my own observation, they don't do so. It's more hassle than they are willing to pursue in advance. They won't know and won't check unless and until you give them a reason to. Like too much sales volume too soon or customer complaints or whatever. If you get reviewed, they might do the bank thing depending on why you might get put under review.

As far as the second subject you inquire about: your friend should go slow too. even if everything is on the up and up, everyone needs to keep it under control when starting out. If you think about it, it makes its own kind of sense.

ruexbluesummer 06-12-2009 10:24 AM

so far people have been saying amazon can see the name on the credit card (so change that), but if you add your bank account for deposits (and do it a week later)... you're safe? even if its your real name?

I just want to get all the details down before I start again. :)

I've already failed twice.
(running out of addresses!)

Vicvelcro 06-12-2009 12:54 PM

The bank account part is safe, as long as amazon never has to reverse anything AND the reversal fail due to bank NSF. If they ever do a reversal but amount is there to cover an issue, it's still safe. The amazon account name does not have to match name on bank account - for bank transfer purposes. If your card used to verify is a debit card from the same account, you can't use that card but can still use the bank account itself. This information is true as of 30 days ago. If it has changed recently, I am unaware of the change.

mallshop 06-12-2009 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lyda (Post 83878)
LOL! This is becoming interesting! :yar:

it may becoming intresting but remember his icon is of beer??:D

Vicvelcro 06-12-2009 11:52 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^

... and that's a GOOD thing ...

Seriously, unless they have changed something, what I say is known by me to be true. Been that, done there.

lyl797 10-18-2009 02:28 PM

I just got suspended on my 1st stealth AMAZON account.
This suspension occurred after 2 hours of adding my Bank account info (the name of my account is different from my AMAZON account name though).
I don't really know what get to this suspension though, could this be my bank account ?
I started this stealth account a week ago, made some sales (around 7), very small volume (around $60), all went smooth. Then today I decided to add my Bank account into my stealth account, 2 hours later, I got suspended by linking to another suspended account.

I am using HSBC Bank account, could AMAZON get to the account holder name of HSBC bank ?

I have another stealth account setup at the same time as I setup my 1st stealth account, only I haven't start selling on that account yet, and no bank account added yet.

How soon do you think I should start selling on this new stealth account and should I stop using HSBC bank account ?

Vicvelcro 10-19-2009 05:15 AM

Considering that you don't know what caused the link, you might try using a different bank. I don't think HSBC gives out your info, but I can't say that with 100% sureness.

You might try adding an account from a different bank BEFORE you start listing on the other account. Some of us have been adding our account after a few sales are made, but maybe that isn't really what we should be doing.

Perhaps they linked your first account to your stealth account by IP, cookies, flash, or MAC. Think carefully about the procedure you followed when you made both accounts. Compare the steps you took, and see if you can remember anything that could give a clue regarding what might have gone wrong.

ebaykilla 10-19-2009 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lyl797 (Post 108736)
I just got suspended on my 1st stealth AMAZON account.
This suspension occurred after 2 hours of adding my Bank account info (the name of my account is different from my AMAZON account name though).
I don't really know what get to this suspension though, could this be my bank account ?
I started this stealth account a week ago, made some sales (around 7), very small volume (around $60), all went smooth. Then today I decided to add my Bank account into my stealth account, 2 hours later, I got suspended by linking to another suspended account.

I am using HSBC Bank account, could AMAZON get to the account holder name of HSBC bank ?

I have another stealth account setup at the same time as I setup my 1st stealth account, only I haven't start selling on that account yet, and no bank account added yet.

How soon do you think I should start selling on this new stealth account and should I stop using HSBC bank account ?

Are you selling in the same catergory that you were suspended with before? If so, then if your ip range & ISP are the same along with the type of browser you are using are the same as well...then you get linked...especially if you used HSBC with the old account. If you add the bank on day one, then the amazon 'bots scrutinize the accounts even more. If you can pass the first 24 hrs, then the 'bots usually leave you alone for a while (until you have a spike of sales and / or listings...or get a neg feedback.)

lyl797 10-19-2009 02:57 PM

Thank you all for helping .. I would be thinking thoroughly before I start selling on the other new account I created. Like you said, it might be category, might be the browser I used .... IP, cookie ....etc

One question though, remember when we do Paypal adding bank account, we need to go thru the 2 small deposit amounts to verify the ownership of the bank account ? Why doesn't AMAZON do this ? If AMAZON does not go thru this, how AMOZON determine the Bank account is the real account sellers own ?
Is this because AMAZON only would deposit sales revenue into the bank account and not getting money out of it ? or does this mean AMAZON has its own way to verify the bank account's ownership ?

GreenBean 10-19-2009 06:00 PM

On a scale of 1--100, paypal ranks minus 100 in terms of dealing with your money. Amazon operates differently more along the lines of having users as merchants (with that little bit extra professional touch). It does not need pithy deposits to determine a seller's info. It controls from the start.

Amazon really does not want the two-a-penny ebay failures. They have always tried to be present themselves differently. Their aim is for professionals selling quality items to the discerning buyer:ranger:

Here We Go Again 11-24-2009 01:25 AM

I have read it both ways....
Does anyone know if Amazon tracks your MAC or not????

soonthenet 11-24-2009 07:00 AM

I am sure that they do track it :tears: .

shoot2kill 11-24-2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Here We Go Again (Post 112941)
I have read it both ways....
Does anyone know if Amazon tracks your MAC or not????

I am not sure either but if a simple sites(anyone of those ip finder sites) on the web can find and reveal your ip address and mac address to you, then what makes you think a million dollar company cant run that program.

I had an account suspended a couple months ago. I ended up changing the cable modem(hacking purposes) and when I seen ebaykilla technique I then made another account. It worked with a gift card and was selling again.(Account had poor status so it got suspended) Me and Powderpuff thought about changing cable modems to see what outcome well get when we connect to the net, but we never went further than a suggestion and hes a lot smarter about the connections and sockets.

a215bz 11-25-2009 09:01 PM

Does anyone have any idea how I can provide Amazon with my source of inventory for the 30 day hold. Also any advice to help me out at all would be great!

lyl797 11-26-2009 03:18 AM

Source of inventory ? Did AMAZON ask you for that ? They never asked me for that though .

shoot2kill 11-26-2009 03:27 AM

AMAZON is not going to release the 30 day hold if you provide them with any information! The best thing to do is build your feedback up. If you sold a lot of items you must hound down your buyers for feedback. THAT IS WHAT WILL HELP GET THE 30 DAY LIMITATION OFF(not really, but get your feedbacks)!

aspkin 12-21-2009 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoot2kill (Post 112981)
I am not sure either but if a simple sites(anyone of those ip finder sites) on the web can find and reveal your ip address and mac address to you, then what makes you think a million dollar company cant run that program.

I had an account suspended a couple months ago. I ended up changing the cable modem(hacking purposes) and when I seen ebaykilla technique I then made another account. It worked with a gift card and was selling again.(Account had poor status so it got suspended) Me and Powderpuff thought about changing cable modems to see what outcome well get when we connect to the net, but we never went further than a suggestion and hes a lot smarter about the connections and sockets.


Which sites can read your MAC address? I haven't seen any.

All I see are IP address sites.

alwaystrying 12-21-2009 07:52 PM

It does not matter about the category. You can list in the same category. Just listen what you are saying. How can they link you by category. There are millions of sellers selling everyday. And thousands or millions starting accounts every 4 minutes .99 % of these sellers are selling in the same category.Can anyone have the same inventory as someone else? There are thousands of items out their so alot of sellers are basically selling the same thing. It is not the merchandise that you are selling. It is your computer and ip address home address and your cc and bank info that is setting them off. That is it.If you get suspended then those are what it is . your computer has to be clean that is it. no if ands or buts. If you do not know how to do it then go to your computer store and have them reformat and reinstalll your system and you are good to go. If not go buy anothe system. It is cheaper and more wiser to buy a cheap desktop than a laptop...If you are reviewed then it is just amazon's protocol..

imthatguy 12-23-2009 05:08 AM

WOW I never knew Amazon was like this

SuperSeller 04-28-2010 11:38 PM

How do you change your IP
 
How do you change your IP like you said multiple times on the same modem and computer? Do you have an easy solution? Also do you only clear cookies or something else?


QUOTE=ebaykilla;86229]you are on the right track but you do not need to change PC's. they don't track the PC.. but they track the cookies & IP & catergory. I make many,many accounts with the same computer, same modem, same ISP..just new IP and computer user account. but i can't stress enough to START SLOW! also wait a week to add that new bank account.

trust me ....this works![/QUOTE]

ganbala 05-03-2010 02:24 PM

How you change your IP address depends on what type of connection you have. Typically, I find DSL very easy to obtain a brand new address, but you need to do some works with cable. As long as your IP is dynamic, it can be change.

Aside from cookies, you may also look for flash files. Google "Adobe flash manager" and you can go to Adobe's page, where you can clear out the flash files saved on your computer.

catdaddy 05-03-2010 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ganbala (Post 136507)
How you change your IP address depends on what type of connection you have. Typically, I find DSL very easy to obtain a brand new address, but you need to do some works with cable. As long as your IP is dynamic, it can be change.

Aside from cookies, you may also look for flash files. Google "Adobe flash manager" and you can go to Adobe's page, where you can clear out the flash files saved on your computer.

100% true. From my own experience, I could change out my dsl ip at will. Cable takes a few days. Again, just my own experience. Plus, dial-up changes your ip every time you log-in which is why its often advocated.

As for a previous point about questioning how Amazon tracks you : come on, just think logically. Obviously they don't track you by category. Logically, apart from the EXTREMELY obvious name,address, cc, etc, once you bypass that, the system will compare what you list first against other similar accounts - similar by location or other logical standards.

To get accounts working on Amazon you do need some luck, and determination, but beyond that, you just have to be sensible and think about things logically.

thousand-face 05-04-2010 07:46 PM

Can you tell me what is SOL'S STAND FOR AN ALSO READ SOMETHING ABOUT ASON SOFTWARE?
THANK YOU


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