Will my idea work?

Zaku77 · #1 12-06-2011

Hey guys, I've been banned from amazon (obviously) and I think I have come up with a solution to get around it. I just want some input if I'm a little off course. I am going to be getting a new router. I am going to be getting a cheap-o netbook to use just for this. I am using a brand new billing address. I know all of that will be good, here is where I think I've tripped over brilliance, but I'm not sure. I am going to open a new bank account and get a new debit card under my middle name. My dad uses his middle name, and on his card it says W. (initial for first name) Michael (the middle name spelled out) (insert last name here). I am planning on doing the same thing. That should work, shouldn't it? It's definitely a different name, so that should get me past the ban-hammer on my name.

Thanks for any help!

cardfelon · #2 12-06-2011

The name on the card must match the name you register with on the account. So if your using a stealth name then it won't work. Why not buy a Vanilla Visa that you can register any name on it you want?

Zaku77 · #3 12-06-2011

I think you misunderstoond. I'm going to use my middle name as my full name, and put my first name as just an initial. The names would all match. It's essentially a way to use my name, without using my name

haha

slapped · #4 12-06-2011

Why don't you just Read Amazon Ghost and Learn how to make accounts WITHOUT Spending a DIME on Routers, Netbooks,or Worring about such TRIVIAL matters as to what Name to put on the account?,,,Amazon Ghost is a FAR CHEAPER Solution than Netbooks, and Routers,,,Use your Head Man,,,

Zaku77 · #5 12-06-2011

Because I don't sell and those guides aren't tailored for my needs. I buy things, and I get refunds. I need a way to put money into an account and take it out. I also need to have a debit card that works so I can make those purchases. Otherwise that would clearly bet the better idea, of course.

Laritha · #6 12-06-2011

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Originally Posted by Zaku77

I buy things, and I get refunds.

LOL huh? I'm lost.

slapped · #7 12-06-2011

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Originally Posted by Zaku77

Because I don't sell and those guides aren't tailored for my needs. I buy things, and I get refunds. I need a way to put money into an account and take it out. I also need to have a debit card that works so I can make those purchases. Otherwise that would clearly bet the better idea, of course.

WHAT,,,Are you saying you make a Purchase recieve the Item, and then Put a Claim like an "Item not as Described" to get a Refund so you then send the Seller back a Box of Rocks Scamming him out of the Item AND the Money or something like that?

Is that what you do?,,and you want our Help?,,,This is a Forum for SELLERS,,,

Around here People who do things like that are considered LOWLIVES,,,

If that is indeed your GiG then Pack your Sh^t and Roll the F&#K up Outta here,,,if there is one thing that is Hated more around here than Ebay or Paypal it's Sc&mb!gs like that who Live off of Scamming other Sellers,,,

Zaku77 · #8 12-07-2011

Thank you for the genuine rage, but I never ever buy from anyone but amazon.com llc. If you all were interested in amazon's good name and respect for them, you probably wouldn't be sneaking back on after they have decided to ban you. What I do on amazon doesn't affect a single one of you even 1%, so being a part of your e-community isn't hurting anybody.

I didn't read your whole post, so I want to be more specific now that I have. Ama zon offers promo credit on many products that can be used on things sold directly by them. That is the scope of my deal on there. I would never scam sellers out of their items with the A-Z thing. I sell on eb ay on a regular basis, and would never intentionally screw a seller over on any site as I, myself, am one. I hope that helps to clear it up.

pod · #9 12-07-2011

Even as a buyer its the same game. Knowledge is power. There is no "here is my two questions" and "here is your two answers". I'm not being condescending. I mean it. The more you know about the system the stronger you are. Buy the book. Trust us.

Zaku77 · #10 12-07-2011

I didn't take it as condescending at all, and I think you may have a good point, thank you. Can anyone comment specifically on my using the middle name angle though? I really think I'm on to something here.

pod · #11 12-07-2011

There is nothing wrong with using a middle name. But that's pretty minimal.

Amazon has some very sophisticated tracking games in play. Names are nothing. Search your name in 411.com. You sir, are not alone

Zaku77 · #12 12-07-2011

I gotcha, but if I change the name that would cut off the last tie to all my blacklisted info, and that was the only part that I couldn't figure out how to get around, so I ought to be good!

pod · #13 12-07-2011

Again, you are missing the big picture. A new name is just one of many things you need to cover

If you dont want to read the guide you may get lucky. Or more likely you will just use a shotgun approach and burn even more info. There are no shortcuts. We all have tried them. And failed. Its all or nothing dude....

Zaku77 · #14 12-07-2011

I agree, I just think that a new router, a new computer (or wiping the hard drive), a new address, and a new name covers every possible angle aside from maybe a new house to do it from and different fingerprints to type with lol

MrMondo · #15 12-07-2011

Don't encourage this guy. He admits that he's a scam artist, and while he claims that he's only ripping off big bad Amazon, people like him would happily rip off anyone else they could, including all the rest of us.

mkr2204 · #16 12-07-2011

IMO scamming amazon is fair game if they delete your account and refuse to pay up on it, I'd do the same if they deleted one of my accounts

As far as what you need to be stealth goes - Just get the book you can get it on trial pay for $1 with a casino offer

rsot · #17 12-07-2011

Such a complex thread - I have my ideas too but...yeah lot of info out. All the best.

MrMondo · #18 12-07-2011

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Originally Posted by mkr2204

IMO scamming amazon is fair game if they delete your account and refuse to pay up on it, I'd do the same if they deleted one of my accounts

That's not what this guy is doing - go back and read his post where he explains his system for ripping Amazon off. He's not taking some justified revenge, he's simply gaming the system, and that kind of thing hurts all of us. I admit I'm not going to lose a lot of sleep about Amazon being scammed, but I'm not going to help someone do it either.

Zaku77 · #19 12-07-2011

They actually closed my account I had for YEARS over some retarded ass reason. That's when I started doing this. If you have nothing helpful to add mondo then please move on to a new thread and stop making claims as to what I would or wouldn't do. You know nothing about me, and are not in a position to say such things.

Axcend · #20 12-07-2011

You can get the Stealth Book for free through trialpay. Use a VCC for the trialpay if you don't want to have to worry about calling and getting harassed trying to cancel.

Plus you get 6 months free into the subscription section. Honestly you can't put a price on knowledge. And this forum is just the grains of the white sandy beach Subscribers Section.

Disclaimer: I do not receive any kind of benefits from you joining. You enjoy the benefits of all the answers at your fingertips.

pod · #21 12-07-2011

Zak. Get the damn book. You want a fast and easy answer. Problem is, if you dont have a couple hours to spare learning how to do this, why even bother??

There is no quick fix. And you seem to be looking for one. People that can not be bothered to invest a small amount of time and money to do this dont make it anyway. That is 100% fact

Zaku77 · #22 12-08-2011

All these trial pay offers look like enormous pains, and most are more money than just flat buying the book >_> haha