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| markstall96 | 07-23-2012 04:40 PM | Selling Refurbished iPhones On Amazon So I just found an iPhone supplier of Refurbished iPhones. I just got my first shipment in of all different models of iPhones. They come in the box with the plastic on them. They look completely new and they work just like a new iPhone. I compared them to my new iPhones from my other supplier and I could not tell a difference. SO my question is, is it risky to sell Refurbished iPhones on amazon and list them as NEW? It might be a stupid question but I am just wondering because I would make a whole heck of a lot more money if i only buy from my supplier of Refurbished iPhones. Let me know what you guys think!! |
| Gamefreak | 07-23-2012 06:15 PM | I wouldnt recommend it but if you say they look new then you can try it. Remember to insure and put sig confirmation on all your shipments.
Just make sure you describe them as they are new but original plastic removed |
| markstall96 | 07-23-2012 06:17 PM | Ok thanks! I am just going to try one and see how that goes! |
| Gamefreak | 07-23-2012 06:18 PM | You should actually try 2-3 that way you will get better testing results from more customers. |
| markstall96 | 07-23-2012 06:21 PM | But what if All 3 go bad won't my account get suspended? |
| Gamefreak | 07-23-2012 06:32 PM | If you're not confident that they look "new" then yes just list one for now. |
| beaches | 07-23-2012 08:06 PM | Used to sell referb digital cameras years ago I sold some as new because you could not tell the difference. They were Exactly like a new camera. Worked for me back then. But today with the technology I would just test the waters with 1 or two do not go overboard amazon is very different today than say 7 years ago |
@OP, How much for an Iphone 4S? |
| markstall96 | 07-23-2012 09:46 PM | @MM78 PM me please |
| slapped | 07-24-2012 12:46 AM | I have a VERY Simple Question,,,How are you going to Offer a FULL MANUFACTURERS Warranty on the Phone, do you think all of you potential buyers will overlook that? Fact is,,if the Phone breaks they are going to run to the Apple Store,,Then What? |
| GreenBean | 07-24-2012 01:05 AM | :rip:
One amazon account |
| slapped | 07-24-2012 01:49 AM | One more Point,,what is the Problem selling the Phones as Refurbs?,,They sell Just as Well,,Yea, you will make a Little less per Phone, So What?,,,Just sell MORE of them..I Mean,,Must you try to Rip People Off?,,Because NO Matter how you slice it, If you sell a Customer a Refurbished Phone as if it were a New one, you are Ripping them off,,and by doing that,,well,,You CANNOT Last,,,But I guess thats why this Forum Exists |
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is it risky to sell Refurbished iPhones on amazon and list them as NEW
| That's kind of cheating the customer. |
| cherrqell | 07-24-2012 11:17 AM | sell them as refurbished and offer something like a squaretrade warranty. when the buyers try to register the phone, the serial number will come back as not new, or invalid. i see alot of potential problems going the new route. in any case, good luck, and I suggest making some back-up accounts. |
| northernlad | 07-24-2012 12:00 PM | Pls dont take this as too much criticism of anyone on the forums here, but I think its a scandalous idea... if things are 'refurbished' they are not new, however you try to dress them up. I have been ripped off before by sellers claiming items are new and they aren't, ie phones that are scratched and even had previous owner's postcodes(zip codes) written in them in sharpie and UV security pens, body trimmer/razor set which still had someone else's hair in it, MP4 player which had pics of a woman and her cats still in it... apart from the time and effort getting in touch, and sending back etc., its a bare faced affrontery in my opinion. If anything is not original manufacturer's new in shrink wrap, then I want to see things described correctly..... NEW ... USED ... or ... REFURBISHED.
Thanks. |
| MichaelW | 07-24-2012 01:36 PM | iphone is very high risk items |
| markstall96 | 07-24-2012 04:56 PM | WHy are they so high risk? |
| slapped | 07-24-2012 09:19 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by markstall96
(Post 362720)
WHy are they so high risk? | One of the Reasons they are High Risk is because of what you are trying to do, Sell a Refurbished one as New,,,what do think, that you are the First seller to come up with that Scam,,,
or how about having a "Connection" in a Cell Phone store and "Selling" a Bunch of Iphones along with Contracts to a Bunch of People who do NOT Exist, so you can get the Phone at the Contract Price, Unlock it, then sell it on Ebay as a "Factory" Unlocked Iphone for FULL Price,,,Do NOT Think for 1 SECOND that you are the ONLY one who Knows about these SCAMS,,,
BOTH Amazon and Ebay Know about these, and MANY more games that Sellers like you Play,,,Thats why Amazon and Ebay consider it HIGH RISK, and have ALL sorts of Restrictions on them,
This Forum is about helping people who have Fallen Victim to the "system" that Ebay and Amazon have created on their respective sites to root OUT lowlife Sellers who's ONLY interest is to Rip People Off some kind of way. Sellers who do not deserve to lose their accounts, is who we are to help.
This Forum does NOT exist to Help Lowlife, dirtbag Sellers create MORE Victims, Hence MORE Difficulties Keeping accounts alive for honest sellers,,,so if that is your game, then you need to find your self another Forum,,, |
| markstall96 | 07-24-2012 10:21 PM | No that is not my game sir. I was just asking a question please stop accusing me of anything! I know that most of all the iPhones sold on amazon as new are refurbished because I talk to the sellers personally. And for the recored these iPhones that I have are actually factory Unlocked! Please do not hate on me because I have a connection to one of the most popular items out there today! |
| bsg1979 | 07-25-2012 02:32 AM | I use to sell about 25-50 a week before they shut me down because I couldn't prove I was an authorized distributor of Apple. I was buying broke iPhones off of Ebay, fixing them and swapping out the back covers, buttoms and chrome bezels with brand new ones. Had about $150-$200 in each phone and selling them as store demos and getting around $400/each. I was putting them in brand new knockoff boxes with all the accessories and papers. My arguement with them was that "why do I have to be an authorized distributor when I am basically selling used phones? I guess Apple didn't like this too much and made Amazon do something about it. Did the same thing with Ebay and had the same problem... |
| markstall96 | 07-25-2012 09:27 AM | Wait so amazon banned you for selling iPhones and not being able to prove you were a authorized reseller? Quote:
Originally Posted by bsg1979
(Post 362797)
I use to sell about 25-50 a week before they shut me down because I couldn't prove I was an authorized distributor of Apple. I was buying broke iPhones off of Ebay, fixing them and swapping out the back covers, buttoms and chrome bezels with brand new ones. Had about $150-$200 in each phone and selling them as store demos and getting around $400/each. I was putting them in brand new knockoff boxes with all the accessories and papers. My arguement with them was that "why do I have to be an authorized distributor when I am basically selling used phones? I guess Apple didn't like this too much and made Amazon do something about it. Did the same thing with Ebay and had the same problem... | |
| slapped | 07-25-2012 11:46 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by markstall96
(Post 362757)
No that is not my game sir. I was just asking a question please stop accusing me of anything! I know that most of all the iPhones sold on amazon as new are refurbished because I talk to the sellers personally. And for the recored these iPhones that I have are actually factory Unlocked! Please do not hate on me because I have a connection to one of the most popular items out there today! |
I did Not accuse you of anything, I merely pointed out that IF this is your Game, than you are in the wrong place
I Have Been Selling Consumer Electronice INCLUDING IPhones for Nearly 25 Years, which I quite sure that is longer than you are old,,,I ASSURE you I do NOT Need your Connection, Nor do I envy it,
If you search the forum you will find Posts that I have put up, telling users here on the forum who the BEST Apple (AND ALL Other Companies) Distributors are,,,Posts I made a Few Years ago,,,It is ALL Right HERE on the forum,,MANY users here can comfirm my knowledge, and willingness to help others find DIRECT sources for Products, INCLUDING Iphones and Ipads, and MUCH, MUCH more,
If you Bother to search the Forum and Find Post I Made SPECIFICALLY Reguarding APPLE Products (INCLUDING Iphones) You will have your anwser as to why NO ONE that is NOT authorized by APPLE is allowed to sell their Products.
You are ONLY be allowed to sell 1 Phone as USED, like it was your PERSONAL phone that you are selling. The ONLY reason that you are allowed to sell ONLY your PERSONAL items is because it is the LAW, it is called the First sale Doctrine, Look it up, and Learn,,ANYTHING more that selling 1 Phone for an Un authorized Reseller and they will Boot you when they catch up with you.,,Why didn't your "Connection" tell you that and help you get Authorized by Apple??? |
| AllAboutStealth | 07-25-2012 12:55 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by slapped
(Post 362891)
I did Not accuse you of anything, I merely pointed out that IF this is your Game, than you are in the wrong place
I Have Been Selling Consumer Electronice INCLUDING IPhones for Nearly 25 Years, which I quite sure that is longer than you are old,,,I ASSURE you I do NOT Need your Connection, Nor do I envy it,
If you search the forum you will find Posts that I have put up, telling users here on the forum who the BEST Apple (AND ALL Other Companies) Distributors are,,,Posts I made a Few Years ago,,,It is ALL Right HERE on the forum,,MANY users here can comfirm my knowledge, and willingness to help others find DIRECT sources for Products, INCLUDING Iphones and Ipads, and MUCH, MUCH more,
If you Bother to search the Forum and Find Post I Made SPECIFICALLY Reguarding APPLE Products (INCLUDING Iphones) You will have your anwser as to why NO ONE that is NOT authorized by APPLE is allowed to sell their Products.
You are ONLY be allowed to sell 1 Phone as USED, like it was your PERSONAL phone that you are selling. The ONLY reason that you are allowed to sell ONLY your PERSONAL items is because it is the LAW, it is called the First sale Doctrine, Look it up, and Learn,,ANYTHING more that selling 1 Phone for an Un authorized Reseller and they will Boot you when they catch up with you.,,Why didn't your "Connection" tell you that and help you get Authorized by Apple??? | Wow slapped, now i know why you chose that user name :croc: |
| mercurial333 | 07-25-2012 02:29 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by markstall96
(Post 362865)
Wait so amazon banned you for selling iPhones and not being able to prove you were a authorized reseller? | Duh! That's what happens when you sell new, en-masse. |
| First Edition | 07-25-2012 03:26 PM | Pretty sure you can't sell NEW apple products on Amazon. you have to list as a refurb, or used - like new
Plus I think you can pull up the history of the device with the serial number. You're better off selling iphones and ipods on ebay. Mac books go quick on Amazon... but still can't list as new. |
| Gamefreak | 07-25-2012 03:31 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by First Edition
(Post 362954)
Pretty sure you can't sell NEW apple products on Amazon. you have to list as a refurb, or used - like new
Plus I think you can pull up the history of the device with the serial number. You're better off selling iphones and ipods on ebay. Mac books go quick on Amazon... but still can't list as new. | Actually you can, I sell ipads and iphones sometimes so I know you can. BRAND NEW SEALED ones though. |
| First Edition | 07-25-2012 03:43 PM | I don't have experience selling ipads, and iphones... I know with ipods, and macbooks, you can't. Bose anything is the same way. |
| bsg1979 | 07-25-2012 04:15 PM | I was selling them as new but had in my description that they were store demos that have only been taken out of the box to be used as a store demos for a couple months. I got booted off Ebay and Amazon because Apple told them the wholesale company I made up wasn't an authorized distributor. I argued with them that they weren't brand new sealed but used store demos so why do I have to be an authorized distributor to sell used iPhones. Still got the boot! |
| markstall96 | 07-25-2012 04:40 PM | How many did you sell until you got the boot from amazon? Quote:
Originally Posted by bsg1979
(Post 362960)
I was selling them as new but had in my description that they were store demos that have only been taken out of the box to be used as a store demos for a couple months. I got booted off Ebay and Amazon because Apple told them the wholesale company I made up wasn't an authorized distributor. I argued with them that they weren't brand new sealed but used store demos so why do I have to be an authorized distributor to sell used iPhones. Still got the boot! | |
| bsg1979 | 07-25-2012 05:20 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by markstall96
(Post 362964)
How many did you sell until you got the boot from amazon? | I lasted about 2 or 3 months... |
| slapped | 07-25-2012 11:27 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by First Edition
(Post 362958)
I don't have experience selling ipads, and iphones... I know with ipods, and macbooks, you can't. Bose anything is the same way. |
You can sell then as NEW on Amazon, but you will lose the Acoount fairly quickly. Even thought Amazon does not have a VERO Program like Ebay, the DO keep a VERY close relationship with All Manufactures, particlarly Apple.
If you are authorized, it is easy, Just contact Seller Suppot tell them, they will ask for your Apple Authorization Certificate, Company info and Photo ID, and you are good to go |
| First Edition | 07-25-2012 11:31 PM | With an ipod touch, for example, the new option is not there when you attempt to sell it. Sure, if you're authorized, awesome. |
| slapped | 07-25-2012 11:32 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by First Edition
(Post 363027)
With an ipod touch, for example, the new option is not there when you attempt to sell it. Sure, if you're authorized, awesome. | Getting Authorized is NOT as hard as you might think,,, |
| GreenBean | 07-26-2012 03:18 AM | Thoughts that occurred since my previous post....
Apple 'prefers'/demands sellers be authorised.
Potentially worse for this fledgling account.
How would it withstand a Bait and Switch claim from a buyer? High chance of this happening given the type of item.
Reconsider your actions please
:peace: |
| markstall96 | 07-26-2012 12:22 PM | What do you have to do to get authorized? Where do you recommend me selling these iPhones that I have? Craigslist? Quote:
Originally Posted by slapped
(Post 363028)
Getting Authorized is NOT as hard as you might think,,, | |
| slapped | 07-26-2012 08:57 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by markstall96
(Post 363159)
What do you have to do to get authorized? Where do you recommend me selling these iPhones that I have? Craigslist? |
It is ALL right on Apples Website it is NO Secret,,Apple wants More Affiliates toi sell their Products,
It amazes me me that So Many people out there believe in "Secret Sources" for an item that can be found almost ANYWHERE
Secret suppliers only exist in the world of Drugs,, |
| First Edition | 07-26-2012 09:01 PM | Maybe someone else already said this...
but man, I think it's kind of messed up to sell something as new when it's refurbished. You know darn well there's a difference. And you know you'd be pissed if someone did that to you. I could see selling as a refurb, when it's new... because there you're getting better. |
| AmazonStealth | 07-27-2012 01:02 AM | This was a recipe for disaster from the start. People buying iPhones know exactly what they want and what they are getting. You think if you are going to go buy a new car, and they try to sell you a used one as new you wont know? Get real.... |
| slapped | 07-27-2012 09:44 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by markstall96
(Post 363159)
What do you have to do to get authorized? Where do you recommend me selling these iPhones that I have? Craigslist? |
I Do NOT Understand, why don't you sell them on Amazon and Ebay as REFURBISHED, if you have a Lot use Multiple accounts and sell Slowly,,
Let me guess, If you sell them as Refurbished, you will not be able to make a Profit on them, so you need an Edge, like Lying to People and selling them as New, If that is the Case, maybe your soruce is NOT that good,,A Good source would leave you room to make a Profit,
If you insist on being a Lowlife Ripping People off by selling them as New, well then, Im sorry I cannot help you |
| bsg1979 | 07-27-2012 11:13 AM | If you can't sell them as new your next best bet is selling them as open box demos. You'll get about the same as new just a little less... | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:31 AM. | |
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