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amazon prime keeps causing me to get banned.
 

i buy stuff off amazon and dropship through ebay. I use amazon primes free shipping. I keep getting my account cancelled for using prime to resell. Any way around this?

I've been using gift cards but one, I have to pay $5 a card and two I don't get the rewards points on my credit card.

Hardly amazon prime that keeps you getting banned.

It's your own chosen business plan.

Consider changing it.

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Fraud? amazon jsut protecting themselves

What's getting banned? Amazon or ebay?

Well it isn't fraud. if that is what you want to call it. I'm using real info. Yes it is against their rules to dropship but it certainly isn't fraud.

And why the hell can't you dropship. they are making money. It's the stupidest rule I've ever heard. Why would a company turn down business. I do over a quarter million in sales a year.

It's because you may not have the inventory.... they don't want you selling if you don't have it.

So it is your plan is not compatible with amazon.

That said I know of drop shippers on amazon

Check out options

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No one has read the post, or at least I understand the seller is SELLING on eBay, and simply ordering cheap product from Amazon with free prime shipping, and sending it direct to the ebay customers - Amazon is loosing there ass on prime, since normal people dont buy so much stuff all sent to unique address, and its a possible Fraud Risk in chargebacks so the prime account is being canceled. You can't use prime to fullfill orders - its against the rules of Prime, and his only option is set up tons of prime accounts or quit trying to play the arbitrage game.

I asked the OP which account keeps getting cancelled.... he didn't answer.

Where does it say this is their rule to not be able to use Amazon Prime to dropship?

It's an unwritten rule....

It is under "Other Limitations" at the link below:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_left_cn?ie=UTF8&nodeId=13819201

Prime members are not permitted to purchase products for the purpose of resale or to ship to their customers or potential customers using Prime benefits.

Case solved... now you know better

ebay doesn't like anyone dropshipping because you can't guarantee you have the inventory.... guess prime doesn't like it because they're offering bigger discounts, and they can't afford to ship it everywhere. It would be undercutting itself.

btw if you are a student i believe you get free 2 day shipping for 6 months and then pay only $40 a year for 4 years!

I was thinking of doing this too. (Prime account and having them ship to buyer from Ebay)

I would think the only way around it, is to have orders over $25 cause they get free shipping (depending on item) any way. Interesting though...


How many items were you shipping a month?

Why not buy in bulk from Amazon and sell legit on Ebay?
If it's so cheap it should move and when it doesn't just ask for refund for any reason and return them..

Good idea. I think the whole point is that you don't have to pay for shipping so it makes the profit higher. But I didn't realize it wasn't allowed through Prime to do that (but would make sense why it wouldn't be).

Funny this came up because I JUST got an e-mail from AZ saying that they have concerns regarding the ordering behavior with Amazon Student Prime... purchasing activity is similar to users using their account for resale...etc. No action is being taken at this time, apparently it was just a warning e-mail.

I used this account as a seller acccount but it got the shaft, using it currently for personal, and to drop ship stuff when my dropshipper screw's up and I need product. They are good...

This will quickly turn into them revoking the prime. How long have you been signed up and using it?

I've been a prime member for a while now, probably since they started the program. I just started using it to drop ship some stuff within in the last year. I think I only do it a couple times a month when I HAVE to.

I think my mistake was ordering 3 expensive SSD drives they had recently on clearance to re-sell.

The only reason Amazon cancels prime is when the scales of profitability tip from their favor.

When you excessively purchase from them (especially using the free 2 day shipping) and get items sent to multiple addresses, then they send you that nice "warning" note. Unless you decide to stop ordering multiples of items to different addresses, and only purchase normal quantities getting them sent right to you they will cancel your prime within a few weeks of sending that "warning".

You can open new buyer accounts with new emails without going stealth. I've used the same credit card, name etc. Usually after setup, the new prime account would last 2 months or more depending on the frequency of purchases. If you are purchasing lots of stuff, the $79 fee is well worth it. But if you have a seller account attached this will cause suspension or deletion of it within a few months.

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I have seen Ebay sellers doing that for years selling 1000s of items this way. I wonder how do they stay alive?

im surpised the buyers dont get pissed and want the difference in price or cause other issues when they see an "amazon" box at their door. hah.

If they don't have an Amazon seller account, Amazon wouldn't be able to squeeze them. They would just keep opening new emails and new prime accounts.

The vast majority don't care because the pricing isn't included if it was marked as a gift.

If somehow the pricing was included, they think that is what they paid and that's the end of that. I don't check everything on my statement line by line. Do you? Once I order something that's pretty much it.

Some ask about the discrepancy and it is easily explained away.

Still, that's $79 for each account that Amazon will be getting... which is still better for you in the long run rather than paying shipping for each item. I can see why Amazon has this rule.

It's in the policy section of Prime on Amazon's own website. This activity is prohibited. The reason they do it is because they don't want you using services like eBay or other competitors to sell their merchandise. It's their decision no matter how stupid you or anyone else thinks it is.

More banned accounts = more fees collected. Just wonderful.

I've been doing this for years and Amazon just recently started cancelling my prime every 3 weeks or so since the Christmas rush! The cost isn't an issue it's just annoying! OP or anyone else have a solution yet?

IMO, this is a lousy way to run a business. I would hate waking up in the morning and logging into amazon to find my account bayonetted every couple of weeks. But thats just me.

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I know someone making 6k a day in sales selling on ebay and using amazon prime as there dropshipper

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And? Continue with the explanation

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smell bs here, you know how many addresses that is, the system would flag the account immediately

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I don't believe you, that's over 2 million $ in sales a year.
He must be creating several new accounts every day - and new prime accounts at $90? every time - or he is Amazon employee who has a solution.

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I sort of believe him. There's a bunch of sellers that have like 25,000 items listed from Amazon. It's probably the same guy or the same few people making a killing. I don't see how its possible dealing with returns and price changes and everything. Either it's a huge operation or they have one killer algorithm.

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The way to see what their volume is, is to use Terapeak using the "research your competition" option. Enter the eBay User-ID and choose the 90 day time frame. That will give you their volume over the last 3 months. Divide the total $$$ sold by 3 and it will tell you how much they are doing on average per month. Multiply by 12 and you have their yearly sales volume. The number won't be EXACT, but it will be CLOSE.

Then, look at a few of their items. See what they are selling them for and go to Amazon to see what the cost it. That will give you an idea of their profit margin.

I have done this for a few sellers, and I can tell you that some of them are willing to accept a 5% profit margin on these sales. I don't know about you, but that is not business that I want. 5% or even 10% may be normal for many retail shops, but with the customer service issues and returns, that could lower your margins to 3% - 7% very quickly.

Still, this DOES seem to work for some folks. Using a credit card that gives you cash back to pay for items can boost your margins. Just make sure of what the yearly limits are, because most of these cards have limits of some type. Also, with a large volume, your PayPal fees will drop. You can use the eBay/PayPal fee calculator at EcommerceBytes.com to see what the exact profit would be on an item: EcommerceBytes Fee Calculator for eBay and PayPal

Be sure to add in a percentage for your costs, such as the number of Prime memberships you will burn through, internet connections, etc. Then you can make an informed decision as to whether or not it is worth it for you to do this.

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Yes, don't use Prime for Drop shipping, that's the way around it. It's against their rules and they track everything, so you'll continue to get suspended. Charge your buyers for shipping or pay for it yourself and your accounts will not get suspended.

Prime is one of their huge money makers, they're always updating it to add more content to make it more appealing. They're going to pay attention to their platform.

As to why they care and you making millions, they don't care. Their revenue dwarfs yours 10,000 times over and they have many sellers that make more than you on their platform that bring in more than you do and respect their rules. In short, they don't care if you make a 1/2 million on their platform or not, they know you need them and it's not the other way around so they set the rules.

They will have bots monitoring your account for patterns on your shipping, if you use prime every single day and your shipments are going all over the place, that will raise a flag. You can't avoid this, they'll catch you every time.

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Do you know how to get a free prime account ? Do you know how to get a free .edu account ? Do you know an administrator from a .edu school that can make you a constant flow of .edu emails if you paid him . from what I know .edu gives you 6 months free of prime membership. Lets say 200 accounts prime accounts each having gift cards to pay for the merchandise do you think 4 purchases per day per account will flag you..doubt it...you can round robin this whole operation,. go to ebay type in search 2 day shipping there is 30k items and you know 90% is all being drop shipped from amazon prime .. There is a seller who has 14k items all being droped shipped from amazon prime how do you think they accomplish this .. is some thing that you don't know how to do and they do and for you to say I smell bs is ignorance until you give it some thought

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