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AllAboutStealth 09-13-2012 11:00 AM

I want to sell an item that is not on amazon.
 
Basically i want to sell an item that is non branded and is not on amazon, to list the item i have to create a UPC it is a cellphone case. what exactly should i do?

i went to a site called ... gs1us org

i put down all the info which i think is right....

what is this? Do i really have to create a barcode for each item?

cant i just create one bar code just to get the UPC and sell all my items under that and not have to put a barcode on each item that sells?

Your prefix allows the creation of 100 barcodes.
Your annual license renewal will be $158.
Total Due
$1,575

please im guessing i need some professional advice on this one.

AmazonStealth 09-13-2012 11:17 AM

Buying UPCs will not fare well for your account. You must be approved to sell your own items. And if you arent a legit company you will not be selling your own items. Your telling me out of the 50,000+ cases on amazon you cant find yours? Anyways sell it on ebay.

AllAboutStealth 09-13-2012 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 376219)
Buying UPCs will not fair well for your account. You must be approved to sell your own items. And if you arent a legit company you will not be selling your own items. Your telling me out of the 50,000+ cases on amazon you cant find yours? Anyways sell it on ebay.

Why wouldn't it? I talked to amazon support they said as long as i have the UPC for the item i become the manufacturer and i can list the item. That item is also no where to be found on ebay as well.

So to answer your question, yes that case has not been claimed yet on amazon to be sold.

AmazonStealth 09-13-2012 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutStealth (Post 376229)
Why wouldn't it? I talked to amazon support they said as long as i have the UPC for the item i become the manufacturer and i can list the item. That item is also no where to be found on ebay as well.

So to answer your question, yes that case has not been claimed yet on amazon to be sold.

You have no idea what you are talking about, so you really should stop talking now. A UPC is a code that is registered with that specific product. Sure you can buy UPCs, but it is only a matter of time before your account will end on amazon with UPCs that are not authentic.

This is just another case of a member on here being so ignorant, that they dont see beyond their imaginary believe. 1,000 people could say no, and one person will say yes, and since that one person said yes, you think it will work out. Not a good idea for a long term solution, but go for it.

AllAboutStealth 09-13-2012 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 376246)
You have no idea what you are talking about, so you really should stop talking now. A UPC is a code that is registered with that specific product. Sure you can buy UPCs, but it is only a matter of time before your account will end on amazon with UPCs that are not authentic.

This is just another case of a member on here being so ignorant, that they dont see beyond their imaginary believe. 1,000 people could say no, and one person will say yes, and since that one person said yes, you think it will work out. Not a good idea for a long term solution, but go for it.

Your right, I'm really not educated in this subject which is why i would need your help to find out what exactly need to be done.

Lets say this item just came out

http://www.amazon.com/Phone-Cover-Samsung-I9300-Galaxy/dp/B008BL1B6W/ref=sr_1_1?s=mobile&ie=UTF8&qid=1347559159&sr=1-1
it is not selling on amazon, how would i sell this item?

AmazonStealth 09-13-2012 03:03 PM

See that square box with the sellers on the right hand side of the screen? At the bottom there will be a "Sell on Amazon" button. If those appear on the listing page then you can also sell yours. If you see a listing without that, then the seller has been authorized to sell that item, and you will not have the authority or option to do so. If you are a legit business and have gone through the process then you may be able to do so.

In other words in order to sell items that are not on amazon you need to be a legit business, and go through the process to be able to create your own product pages. This is an extremely long process, and I can tell you most people will be unable to do so, for many reasons.

Amazon and eBay are not exactly alike and that is the reason they can both succeed. If they were both exactly the same, then one would be dominating the other. If you cant sell it on amazon just sell it on eBay. And if you are thinking....."there are tons on ebay and thats why I want to sell on amazon", then clearly there is a reason.

I am not trying to be rude, but trying to go through amazons loop holes will not fly, and is not a long term solution.

AllAboutStealth 09-13-2012 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 376324)
See that square box with the sellers on the right hand side of the screen? At the bottom there will be a "Sell on Amazon" button. If those appear on the listing page then you can also sell yours. If you see a listing without that, then the seller has been authorized to sell that item, and you will not have the authority or option to do so. If you are a legit business and have gone through the process then you may be able to do so.

In other words in order to sell items that are not on amazon you need to be a legit business, and go through the process to be able to create your own product pages. This is an extremely long process, and I can tell you most people will be unable to do so, for many reasons.

Amazon and eBay are not exactly alike and that is the reason they can both succeed. If they were both exactly the same, then one would be dominating the other. If you cant sell it on amazon just sell it on eBay. And if you are thinking....."there are tons on ebay and thats why I want to sell on amazon", then clearly there is a reason.

I am not trying to be rude, but trying to go through amazons loop holes will not fly, and is not a long term solution.

the reason why i want to sell this item on amazon is because i estimated about 100 orders off just this item a day where on ebay i do not have a limit to list 3000 items per month.

hbz 09-14-2012 02:19 AM

Is your amazon account individual or pro? If it is individual there is no chance. If it is a pro merchant acct, then you can use a new upc. The issue with this is that particular upc is not listed in Amazons catalog and therefore raises a flag. Amazon is well aware of people purchasing upc's in order to list. As far as using one upc to list multiples, this will not work. Once you submit the upc one time Amazon will recognize a duplicate listing when trying to use it for a different item. You can purchase upc's much cheaper then what you mentioned though.
Hope this helps

AllAboutStealth 09-14-2012 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbz (Post 376438)
Is your amazon account individual or pro? If it is individual there is no chance. If it is a pro merchant acct, then you can use a new upc. The issue with this is that particular upc is not listed in Amazons catalog and therefore raises a flag. Amazon is well aware of people purchasing upc's in order to list. As far as using one upc to list multiples, this will not work. Once you submit the upc one time Amazon will recognize a duplicate listing when trying to use it for a different item. You can purchase upc's much cheaper then what you mentioned though.
Hope this helps

No my amazon is Pro, and yes... your right the 100 UPC(100 is minimum i can purchase) will cost me i believe around 750$, every hour im trying to educate myself about this as fast as possible because i feel like i lose money every day by lagging it.

So plz hbz can you tell me, this item i am purchasing from dhgate is a regular cellphone case non branded very simple that is not listed on amazon, can i buy upcs for it if i am not the designer nor the creator of the case? This will make me the manufacturer correct? Am i allowed to do this? My amazon account is not stealth it is my real account btw.

Please advise me more on how to accomplished this.

MichaelW 09-14-2012 08:42 AM

100 UPC is cost only $200
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutStealth (Post 376518)
No my amazon is Pro, and yes... your right the 100 UPC(100 is minimum i can purchase) will cost me i believe around 750$, every hour im trying to educate myself about this as fast as possible because i feel like i lose money every day by lagging it.

So plz hbz can you tell me, this item i am purchasing from dhgate is a regular cellphone case non branded very simple that is not listed on amazon, can i buy upcs for it if i am not the designer nor the creator of the case? This will make me the manufacturer correct? Am i allowed to do this? My amazon account is not stealth it is my real account btw.

Please advise me more on how to accomplished this.


hbz 09-14-2012 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutStealth (Post 376518)
No my amazon is Pro, and yes... your right the 100 UPC(100 is minimum i can purchase) will cost me i believe around 750$, every hour im trying to educate myself about this as fast as possible because i feel like i lose money every day by lagging it.

So plz hbz can you tell me, this item i am purchasing from dhgate is a regular cellphone case non branded very simple that is not listed on amazon, can i buy upcs for it if i am not the designer nor the creator of the case? This will make me the manufacturer correct? Am i allowed to do this? My amazon account is not stealth it is my real account btw.

Please advise me more on how to accomplished this.

I am not sure why it would be an issue. I list my own items that I manufacture and I use upc's that are much cheaper.
I am not sure what your concern is. Are you worried about investing in upc's?

AmazonStealth 09-14-2012 11:34 PM

Keep in mind, I keep an eye on people who attempt to sell the same items and me. They are not approved, and 9 times out of 10 the items are removed within a week or so, and most times theirs accounts dont last. Purchasing a UPC will let all your competitors piggy back on the listing.

hbz 09-15-2012 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 376715)
Keep in mind, I keep an eye on people who attempt to sell the same items and me. They are not approved, and 9 times out of 10 the items are removed within a week or so, and most times theirs accounts dont last. Purchasing a UPC will let all your competitors piggy back on the listing.

Im not sure what you are getting at? I too watch my competitors closely but what is it you are trying to say? What is the approval you keep referring to?
Amazon has an approval list I am unaware of? Is this a upc approval list?
I realize that competitors can piggy back but he says noone has his product listed. Yet anyway. Or are you suggesting that the upc all together is a bad idea for him? ;)

AllAboutStealth 09-15-2012 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hbz (Post 376723)
Im not sure what you are getting at? I too watch my competitors closely but what is it you are trying to say? What is the approval you keep referring to?
Amazon has an approval list I am unaware of? Is this a upc approval list?
I realize that competitors can piggy back but he says noone has his product listed. Yet anyway. Or are you suggesting that the upc all together is a bad idea for him? ;)

I think he has an idea of what i will be selling, i found this site for upc's could someone please confirm if this is legit and all the prices are right?

10 upcs for 20 bucks sounds like a steal

Buy UPC Codes & Sell on Amazon | Code UPC | Instant Delivery

MichaelW 09-15-2012 10:23 AM

The UPC price sound right as I mention above.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutStealth (Post 376793)
I think he has an idea of what i will be selling, i found this site for upc's could someone please confirm if this is legit and all the prices are right?

10 upcs for 20 bucks sounds like a steal

Buy UPC Codes & Sell on Amazon | Code UPC | Instant Delivery


AllAboutStealth 09-15-2012 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelW (Post 376800)
The UPC price sound right as I mention above.

for 100 on here its 129

MichaelW 09-15-2012 06:23 PM

This is cheaper than the one I know :clap::clap::clap::clap:
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutStealth (Post 376806)
for 100 on here its 129


hbz 09-15-2012 06:29 PM

speedybarcodes.com is what I use. You can get the price way down.
Works fine. Cheap. Gotta love it. Hope this helps-

AmazonStealth 09-17-2012 05:00 PM

It is only a matter of time before you sell your item and before you know it, there are 50 other people piggy backing on your listing for .01. If you arent approved dont waste your time or money, it wont end well for those who buy ⊗⊗⊗⊗ upcs

AllAboutStealth 09-19-2012 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 377406)
It is only a matter of time before you sell your item and before you know it, there are 50 other people piggy backing on your listing for .01. If you arent approved dont waste your time or money, it wont end well for those who buy ⊗⊗⊗⊗ upcs

So please tell me friend how to this item, its non branded.... how do i start selling it, i dont want to wait for someone to list it first then me piggy back them.

Laritha 09-19-2012 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 377406)
It is only a matter of time before you sell your item and before you know it, there are 50 other people piggy backing on your listing for .01. f you arent approved dont waste your time or money, it wont end well for those who buy ⊗⊗⊗⊗ upcs

I don't get what you mean by "piggy backing for .01". Are you saying they will sale the same product as you for .01???

AmazonStealth 09-19-2012 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutStealth (Post 377831)
So please tell me friend how to this item, its non branded.... how do i start selling it, i dont want to wait for someone to list it first then me piggy back them.

If you are not cleared by amazon to create your own listings than you can not do it. Simple as that. Yes there are ways around it, but once you are caught, amazon doesnt take it lightly.

AmazonStealth 09-19-2012 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laritha (Post 377869)
I don't get what you mean by "piggy backing for .01". Are you saying they will sale the same product as you for .01???

You buy a UPC and create your product page and sell it for 29.99. A few days or a week later, people with the same item will sell their same item on your page, and sell it for 24.99. Before you know it, that page you created with the UPC you paid for, will be so flooded with sellers, the products will be dirt cheap.

Laritha 09-20-2012 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 377906)
You buy a UPC and create your product page and sell it for 29.99. A few days or a week later, people with the same item will sell their same item on your page, and sell it for 24.99. Before you know it, that page you created with the UPC you paid for, will be so flooded with sellers, the products will be dirt cheap.

I understand that, but isn't that what happens even if you DON'T create your own UPC? Is the increase in competitors due to a new UPC, or a nitche that others have always had access to?

Are you saying that with a new UPC code people all of a sudden say "ahha! let me sell these too". Or are you implying that they say "wait, i currently sale these too...let me undercut him"?? I'm confused

NO ID 09-20-2012 04:48 AM

Put a brand on your product and this way only you will be able to sell that newly created branded item.
Edit the pics slightly but not to mislead customers about what their getting, but to mislead the leachers enough that they may go away[tricky]
Get creative...

AllAboutStealth 09-22-2012 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NO ID (Post 378014)
Put a brand on your product and this way only you will be able to sell that newly created branded item.
Edit the pics slightly but not to mislead customers about what their getting, but to mislead the leachers enough that they may go away[tricky]
Get creative...

I was thinking of doing that actually didn't know if i could pull it off

Laritha 09-22-2012 04:44 AM

Makes sense now. Thanks

hbz 09-22-2012 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 377905)
If you are not cleared by amazon to create your own listings than you can not do it. Simple as that. Yes there are ways around it, but once you are caught, amazon doesnt take it lightly.

So I am so confused here?
I am not sure if this is to discourage others or educate them?
No disrespect at all, just trying to figure it out myself.

I create my own listings with and without upc (cheap ones) and have not had an issue?
I get the undercutting once listed but I do not get the approved list.
Please help me understand?
Thanks

AmazonStealth 09-23-2012 12:38 AM

I guess on am done giving advice on this thread......

Laritha 09-23-2012 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 378752)
I guess on am done giving advice on this thread......

Smart man lol

hbz 09-23-2012 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 378752)
I guess on am done giving advice on this thread......


forgive my ignorance.
I am truly trying to learn from those willing, as well as share.

AllAboutStealth 09-23-2012 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 376219)
Buying UPCs will not fare well for your account. You must be approved to sell your own items. And if you arent a legit company you will not be selling your own items. Your telling me out of the 50,000+ cases on amazon you cant find yours? Anyways sell it on ebay.

Since now the market is flooding of those product i can tell you they are iphone 5 cases, the time i had them there was no sellers and my listings are doing pretty well.... but it will be a matter of time i get the 0.01 sellers

AllAboutStealth 09-23-2012 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NO ID (Post 378014)
Put a brand on your product and this way only you will be able to sell that newly created branded item.
Edit the pics slightly but not to mislead customers about what their getting, but to mislead the leachers enough that they may go away[tricky]
Get creative...

I noticed that there were sellers that have the same cases as me and i think they are doing this little trick you suggested.

The profile picture looks like it was Photoshoped on the bottom of the case to put there brand name. On other pictures they have, the brand name isn't there.....

so i listed my items there and now i just got a message from one of them asking me to take down my listing or they will take action and report me to amazon.... they really can't do anything can they?

Laritha 09-23-2012 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutStealth (Post 378876)
they really can't do anything can they?

Ooooh yes they can. They can claim phony rights to that brand, and Amazon will usually take their claim for truth.

AllAboutStealth 09-23-2012 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laritha (Post 378886)
Ooooh yes they can. They can claim phony rights to that brand, and Amazon will usually take their claim for truth.

I contacted amazon about this issue and they told me i can report them for what they did, i don't want to do that because i wouldn't want the listing removed but i also got this message from them.


Greetings from Amazon Seller Support.

As we were speaking today about the ASIN *******, I've been researching information about this item and I didn't find any restriction under it. As you know Amazon is a free marketplace and you can be completely sure that in regards to this specific ASIN and other similar, you will not have any kind of issue affecting you for it.

I am sending you the information about the restricted categories that exist on Amazon:
-Automotive Parts / Motorcycle & ATV
-Clothing, Accessories & Luggage
-Collectible Books
-Entertainment Collectibles
-Industrial & Scientific
-Jewelry
-Shoes
-Sports Collectibles
-Toys & Games (holiday approval only)
-Watches


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