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Kelly441 02-10-2013 10:29 PM

Run and Gun
 
I have some product I want to sell quickly and make real good money on in just a few days of sales. I'm not concerned about the account getting suspended becuase of the quick money to be made. Is it still possible to run and gun an account and still get your Monday in 90 days?

Vetragor 02-10-2013 10:50 PM

sometimes amazon is not giving money back to people

Bunneh 02-10-2013 10:59 PM

why on earth would you want to sell this way?:doh:

Dont you think if you actually set the account up properly and sold slowly, you would get your money the normal way, rather than have to wait the 90 days to withdraw it?

With amazon and & suspensions, it is never a guarantee you will get your money after the 90 days have passed.

Think about your sales in the 'long term' because the way you currently want to do it, is just going to end up with you getting yourself burned.

Rethink this idea :juggle:

beaches 02-11-2013 11:01 AM

As long as amazon is holding funds for the 1st 21 days run and gun will not happen.The days of fast money is over across the web.Looks like all sites have adopted this method. A real shame...

HunterStudios 02-11-2013 11:08 AM

Amazon has a strong tendency to delete extremely suspicious accounts. I would classify run and gun methods as extremely suspicious so there is a chance your account will be deleted and the money will be gone. It is possible to get money from a deleted account, but it is hard to do and requires a lot of time and fighting with them.

Speeder33 02-11-2013 03:15 PM

it would work if they stopped deleting accounts

bruceuk 02-11-2013 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelly441 (Post 419871)
I have some product I want to sell quickly and make real good money on in just a few days of sales. I'm not concerned about the account getting suspended becuase of the quick money to be made. Is it still possible to run and gun an account and still get your Monday in 90 days?

There is the key phrase .
Its not really quick money is it ?
You will have to wait months then you may not get it at all .
Most platforms across the globe now have systems in place to stop exactly this kind of thing.
And it doesnt really help genuine sellers who are now penalised due to those burning accounts on purpose.

rsot 02-11-2013 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelly441 (Post 419871)
I have some product I want to sell quickly and make real good money on in just a few days of sales. I'm not concerned about the account getting suspended becuase of the quick money to be made. Is it still possible to run and gun an account and still get your Monday in 90 days?

Is the product high risk? Do you think it is a knock-off variety?

If so then ...Amazon could block you and you wont get a cent.

Be careful - read and spread sales

Kelly441 02-11-2013 04:43 PM

No they are legit. Just don't feel like doing slow and steady when I can make $10000 in the first week and then wait 90 days to get my money. Sounds too risky if they just delete my account though

bboard 02-11-2013 07:19 PM

If you try to "Run and Gun" it will only result in your Seller Account getting DELETED by Amazon (not suspended, deleted) ... and when your account gets deleted you will pretty much have a ZERO chance of ever getting any of that money in that account

In the past the Run and Gun method was VERY possible ... now it is not possible at all

In the good ole' days of the past, if Amazon thought your account was extremely suspicious you were guaranteed a 90-day suspension, and at the end of that they would send you all your money - you could count on it

... now in 2013 they just simply delete your account

Sandy D 02-11-2013 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelly441 (Post 420130)
No they are legit. Just don't feel like doing slow and steady when I can make $10000 in the first week and then wait 90 days to get my money. Sounds too risky if they just delete my account though

What makes you think you will get your money in 90 days?

Why not spread the sales out over many accounts and have the money in your bank in less then 20 days if done correctly?


If you need to money that bad then why let them possibly for 180 days or not get it at all?

I run 20 accounts per week and always get my money on the new accounts in far less then 21 days and right away on accounts with no holds.

ghostrider007 02-11-2013 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy D (Post 420193)
I run 20 accounts per week and always get my money on the new accounts in far less then 21 days and right away on accounts with no holds.

u create 20 new accounts a week or just have 20 accounts? sorry i dont understand. are u doing a different type of run n gun method?

Kelly441 02-11-2013 07:57 PM

"I run 20 accounts per week and always get my money on the new accounts in far less then 21 days and right away on accounts with no holds. "

Sweet! are you using Vmware?

Sandy D 02-11-2013 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghostrider007 (Post 420195)
u create 20 new accounts a week or just have 20 accounts? sorry i dont understand. are u doing a different type of run n gun method?


I dont do run and gun on either ebay or amazon.

I do it right!! :yar:

I have 500 ebay accounts, selling on hundreds of them.

I run 20 selling account per week, then rotate to another 20 accounts, then rotate to another 20 etc etc.

I create 30+ accounts a day sometimes and make amazon accounts when I have time to just for back up and to be able to spread things out.

Kelly441 02-11-2013 09:03 PM

How much is it costing you to open each account? Are you getting LLCs for these or just staying under the radar of 200 transaction $20,000? Pro seller accounts?

Sandy D 02-11-2013 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelly441 (Post 420220)
How much is it costing you to open each account? Are you getting LLCs for these or just staying under the radar of 200 transaction $20,000? Pro seller accounts?

You have to stay under the radar on both amazon and eb.

I have 500 eb accounts and several amazons including my original and never an issue so far by spreading things out.

beaches 02-11-2013 10:41 PM

running out of brick and morter checking accounts also pre paid checking. What else can I use to get deposits??

ghostrider007 02-11-2013 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelly441 (Post 420220)
How much is it costing you to open each account? Are you getting LLCs for these or just staying under the radar of 200 transaction $20,000? Pro seller accounts?

so if you dont do over 20k in sales u can use same social security number or ein for another account? what if account was suspended but didnt do over 20k in sales using ein. is that ein still good for another account?

AmazonStealth 02-11-2013 11:03 PM

Run & Gun is dead, get over it. By you even asking this question just proves you are not a legitimate and legal seller.

Furious George 02-11-2013 11:06 PM

I disagree. Maybe the user just doesn't want to mess with tax id's and business formation.

I used to blow through a velocity limit in a day just knowing I'd get the money back in 120 days.

The deleting of accounts is a serious problem now, though. I suppose the first time I had to fight with amazon to get my money from a deleted account, it seemed like a nightmare.

I wouldn't say the "run and gun" method is dead... it's just WAY harder to get your money now.

AmazonStealth 02-11-2013 11:12 PM

Your wrong plain and simple. Sounds like a solid game plan. Sell around 150-200 items, get canned, and start over again, with the hopes of getting your money every time. Why dont you do the right thing and build a legit business, so you can rake in 150-200 sales a day. Either way I could care less, but I am telling you outright it is the worst possible idea ever. You are not setting yourself up for financial success, a long term business, or anything positive. Amazon can send you the tax id request on your 1st sale, 100th sale, or 199th sale, and if you dont provide it to them in the given period your gone (with your money). Not to mention you are only setting yourself up and your account to be scrutinized even more. So you dont want to be a big boy seller and make real money, your just going to take the short cuts? Dont come on here and piss and moan when things dont go your way. Not being rude at all, just being honest.

bboard 02-11-2013 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmazonStealth (Post 420261)
Run & Gun is dead, get over it. By you even asking this question just proves you are not a legitimate and legal seller.

exactly

the ONLY way I could see someone still doing this method is if they still had one of those golden 24 hour disbursement accounts (no longer avaliable)

If you still have an account created before October 2011, which not only allowed 24 hr disbursements, but from what I've heard is on a totally different marketplace platform that has been "grandfathered in"

those accounts might still be able to "Run and Gun"


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