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MICKY H 04-29-2013 06:36 AM

Running 4 pcs, 4 separate IP's, 4 different bank accounts, selling in US,UK,Germany and France, stock lists not identical, maybe only 50% same titles with over 500 lines. Not counterfeit, all deleted within 2 hours and all ghost accounts. How have they linked them!!!!

forgot to add, all accounts between 3 months and 9 months old, 98%plus ratings and all FBA

Ebayorbust 04-29-2013 06:53 AM

May not be linked but all taken down for the same reason(s).

Regarding linking, factors to look at:

1. Same ISP
2. Same operating system, installed fonts, addons, internet browser.
3. Same email provider eg gmail.
4. Same card provider eg 3V
5. All mobile phone numbers on account

This is just for starters. The fact that 50% of stock is the same across the accounts would be a big link. I'm not saying you are getting linked through all or any of the above but Amazon linking is far more advanced than anything ebay or paypal are capable of. The above would be a starting point to look at.

kockedoff 04-29-2013 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 444863)
Running 4 pcs, 4 separate IP's, 4 different bank accounts, selling in US,UK,Germany and France, stock lists not identical, maybe only 50% same titles with over 500 lines. Not counterfeit, all deleted within 2 hours and all ghost accounts. How have they linked them!!!!

forgot to add, all accounts between 3 months and 9 months old, 98%plus ratings and all FBA

Were you selling DVDs?

Univerzal 04-29-2013 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kockedoff (Post 444867)
Were you selling DVDs?

:lol: well it could be the answer to but amazon maybe linked cause of listing differences were to small, yesterday i found 3 sellers that took My pictures and today all of them are gone.

Sandy D 04-29-2013 08:43 AM

I see a lot of this anymore.

I dont work Amazon like most of you but when I take a very good picture I have found it several times being used.

Ukdirect 04-29-2013 08:46 AM

It could also be from the messgaes you have sent to buyers

e.g same return address

barrycruan 04-29-2013 09:12 AM

Of 4 a counts have gone down at the same time then you have been linked. Having 50% of the same items is quite a high so I would say its either that or you made a mistake somewehre

JamesNorth101 04-29-2013 12:11 PM

Im just glad ebay cannot link items like Amazon. Did you have just the 4 accounts or other stealth's that survived the culling?

kockedoff 04-29-2013 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Univerzal (Post 444874)
:lol: well it could be the answer to but amazon maybe linked cause of listing differences were to small, yesterday i found 3 sellers that took My pictures and today all of them are gone.

three sellers took your pictures on amazon?

dallasreed 04-29-2013 12:33 PM

I wonder if anyone has actually been linked for this?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ukdirect (Post 444889)
It could also be from the messgaes you have sent to buyers

e.g same return address


kockedoff 04-29-2013 12:46 PM

in my understanding UK and US accounts are different in many ways...

Univerzal 04-29-2013 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kockedoff (Post 444922)
three sellers took your pictures on amazon?

Yes that im currently aware off, only those who have my permission may borrow my pics.

kockedoff 04-29-2013 01:35 PM

so they created a new listing on amazon (not ebay right?), with your pictures ?

kockedoff 04-29-2013 01:37 PM

OP: you were up for 3 to 9 months! thats a longgg time for incorrectly creating accounts and staying up...

this deletion is for some thing differnet for sure..

did you try calling in for at least one account and checking to see if they can shed some light?

Univerzal 04-29-2013 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kockedoff (Post 444965)
so they created a new listing on amazon (not ebay right?), with your pictures ?


Without saying too much, yes like that.

:focus:
OP what kind of emails have you received since it happened?

Speeder33 04-29-2013 05:43 PM

i would give them a call on 1 acct just to see if you could get any info about this

nothing to lose by calling if youre already deleted

sax4 04-29-2013 05:50 PM

Funny things happening with Amazon recently. Registered new account with 4 countries, 3 went down one after another despite being well under velocity limits.

Mysterious.

rsot 04-29-2013 07:23 PM

@sax4, you had a CC or VCC on file that could handle random test charges, I am assuming?

Sandy D 04-29-2013 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kockedoff (Post 444965)
so they created a new listing on amazon (not ebay right?), with your pictures ?

It happens both ways.

People stealing good pictures to use on other sites.

LOL Acutally found one of my pictures of a vintage item I have listed on ebay over on esty. Just cropped a bit.

ZoonVoo 04-29-2013 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 444863)
Running 4 pcs, 4 separate IP's, 4 different bank accounts, selling in US,UK,Germany and France, stock lists not identical, maybe only 50% same titles with over 500 lines. Not counterfeit, all deleted within 2 hours and all ghost accounts. How have they linked them!!!!

forgot to add, all accounts between 3 months and 9 months old, 98%plus ratings and all FBA

Same router?!! maybe?

sax4 04-30-2013 01:56 AM

Yes should've been fine.

BTW, these random charges, do they actually take an amount.

kockedoff 04-30-2013 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 445128)
Yes should've been fine.

BTW, these random charges, do they actually take an amount.

don't you usually get email saying cc on file is not updated... I am sure they have 1000s of accounts each day where seller forgets to update their new card info

rsot 04-30-2013 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sax4 (Post 445128)
Yes should've been fine.

BTW, these random charges, do they actually take an amount.

They can test charge anywhere up to $20 - it's like "pinging" your card for the amount. That's why you must always have a working CC on the account.

kockedoff 04-30-2013 02:21 PM

That's interesting, I don't think I have $20 on any of my cc attached to ago amazon ...never had this issue...I'll make sure I attach some thing will $50+ just to be safe :)

barrycruan 04-30-2013 03:25 PM

I've never heard of them testing anything over $5. That's what you can buy a vcc that works for amazon for around $13.

jacknjill 05-01-2013 04:18 AM

OP has not posted/responded since his original post.... we would like to know if you got any update of any account?

TonyAlmeida 05-01-2013 08:08 AM

Man, that is scary. I thought they go easy like the rest of last year. I'm worry about all my account know
Quote:

Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 444863)
Running 4 pcs, 4 separate IP's, 4 different bank accounts, selling in US,UK,Germany and France, stock lists not identical, maybe only 50% same titles with over 500 lines. Not counterfeit, all deleted within 2 hours and all ghost accounts. How have they linked them!!!!

forgot to add, all accounts between 3 months and 9 months old, 98%plus ratings and all FBA


kockedoff 05-01-2013 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida (Post 445556)
Man, that is scary. I thought they go easy like the rest of last year. I'm worry about all my account know

One thing I have noticed they delete none USA accounts more often compared to US accounts correctly created

Univerzal 05-01-2013 09:49 AM

I think so, i have had more , worldwide issues than usa issues when dealing with amazon

TonyAlmeida 05-01-2013 10:16 AM

I remember about more than a year before. They deleted account left and right. I have to quick for some time and start again now.

Speeder33 05-02-2013 03:24 AM

i would always quit oct- mid jan to avoid deletions

kockedoff 05-02-2013 08:35 AM

Op any updates?

MICKY H 05-02-2013 09:20 AM

Hi Guys sorry for the late replies.

ebayorbust, everything was different, y mail, g mail aol etc
ukdirect, this was fba, so no contact with the buyers
barrcuran mistakes impossible, 4 pcs, only ever used for each amazon marketplace
knockedoff yes tried calling DE, said they would email and we know the answer to that
zoonvoo 4 3g dongles with different providers

Kelly441 05-02-2013 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 444863)
Running 4 pcs, 4 separate IP's, 4 different bank accounts, selling in US,UK,Germany and France, stock lists not identical, maybe only 50% same titles with over 500 lines. Not counterfeit, all deleted within 2 hours and all ghost accounts. How have they linked them!!!!

forgot to add, all accounts between 3 months and 9 months old, 98%plus ratings and all FBA

Is all your FBA being shipped form different locations?

kockedoff 05-02-2013 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MICKY H (Post 445837)
Hi Guys sorry for the late replies.

ebayorbust, everything was different, y mail, g mail aol etc
ukdirect, this was fba, so no contact with the buyers
barrcuran mistakes impossible, 4 pcs, only ever used for each amazon marketplace
knockedoff yes tried calling DE, said they would email and we know the answer to that
zoonvoo 4 3g dongles with different providers


you sounds pretty expert and know what you are doing....
you tell us, what do you think went wrong?
so far its down to product matching on all accounts in my guess..

barrycruan 05-02-2013 07:33 PM

But they have linked you. There is no way that 4 accounts have been randomly deleted at the same time. There is something you are missing

MICKY H 05-02-2013 07:56 PM

kelly,the fba is being shipped from one location to de,fr,uk and use but the senders address on the labels shows different labels. I cannot see amazon tracking fba shipments in all 4 countries, can you

barrycruan, yes i have been linked thats for sure, but I have been doing this for many years and cannot see how, different ip's different 3g dongles with different telecom companies,different banks in different names, different addresses etc. I still have several accounts running, again same set up and these are fine, also selling the same 50 core titles with around a different random 50 lines.

The only identical thing is they are all running on macs with safari, but so are a million other people.The fact that they all came down within 2 hours is the bizarre thing.

Kelly441 05-02-2013 08:57 PM

I don't think that dropping off all your FBA to the same Ups store will get you linked by itself.
However, if they suspect the four accounts are linked for some other reason it would be say to pull up your FBA tracking numbers and see where the destination scan is and be sure they are linked.

I think you had too many similar items across accounts. For every same item you are selling I read you should have 10 other items listed. If I'm reading you correctly you had 50 listings for 50 same items when you should have 500 listings for 50 same items.

Kelly441 05-02-2013 09:02 PM

Your FBA shipment cost is calculated from the departing address. If your departing address was from a totally different country do you think UPS may have alerted Amazon?

Especially if you are short changing Amazon on shipments all the time.

Since Amazon is paying UPS and then charging you then it is likely the would tell Amazon not contact you.

MICKY H 05-03-2013 04:19 AM

Kelly, I pay all the freight charges from the UK with DHL,FedEx,UPS, basically who has the best price on the day.
I don't enter tracking numbers in the FBA shipment, you can skip this.
Do Amazon allow you to use their UPS account for shipping in US then charge you back, WOW.
The thing I have other accounts selling the same products and they are all OK. Just strange and not to mention about £20k down in funds and stock.


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