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beaches 01-10-2014 08:25 AM

Amazon question
 
Any good reliable dial up providers left. Need one that Ip changes.lately the ip have not been changing on the providers i use..Only changing by 1 or 3 digits on the backside:deadhorse: even when dialing other towns many miles away..

MICKY H 01-10-2014 01:35 PM

Re: Amazon question
 
google aol, I am sure they still have US access numbers

rsot 01-10-2014 01:36 PM

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Copper also an option

An0nym0u$ 01-10-2014 02:12 PM

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There's also Earthlink and NetZero.

Recherché 01-10-2014 05:50 PM

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Definitely Coppernet.

n8zzz 01-10-2014 07:26 PM

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For a followup question, may I ask if there are any security differences between dial-up and 4g dongle? As far as I know, they work similarly as to how other computers "see" them.. but I would like some sort of confirmation from someones who has a good understanding of both.

jeffweico 01-10-2014 08:04 PM

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Coppr.net worked for me for awhile, but it was very slow (not copper.net specifically, just dial up in general, since sites are no longer optimized for slower connections) so I moved over to dongles.

Kelly441 01-10-2014 09:56 PM

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Only needs to be different IP, doesnt have to be 2 or more digits off.

jeffweico 01-11-2014 02:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelly441 (Post 518448)
Only needs to be different IP, doesnt have to be 2 or more digits off.

True, as an ISP or Wireless Broadband provider is likely to have blocks of IP addresses.

When using VPN's and VPS's, however, you want to avoid using sequential IP addresses if at all possible.

We also need to start looking into IPV6...

barrycruan 01-11-2014 06:22 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelly441 (Post 518448)
Only needs to be different IP, doesnt have to be 2 or more digits off.

That's not the case if you are running multiple accounts. If it only changes by the last number or two that means you only have a very small amount of ip addresses that can be used as they are all on the same network. Normally around 120.

These addresses are going to keep getting recycled every time you log on and then 120 different ip's does not seem that unique. as soon as one account goes down for any reason they will link the rest. It really does matter.

rsot 01-11-2014 08:19 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by n8zzz (Post 518429)
For a followup question, may I ask if there are any security differences between dial-up and 4g dongle? As far as I know, they work similarly as to how other computers "see" them.. but I would like some sort of confirmation from someones who has a good understanding of both.

Both types give IP - dial-up is horribly slower for webloading, etc. Otherwise, access is the same

beaches 01-11-2014 08:52 AM

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thanks what is happening is I use multiple accounts with multiple dial ups. In the past i had received a lot of different ips . Now it seems that copper net zero Juno basic isp. Are all connected. when I dial up I get almost the same Ip from all just the last #'s change, Even dialing from 50 miles away. never happened before in the past. So I'm thinking they are using the same servers now. won't work for multiple accounts then..I even switched up the operating system this time around.

jeffweico 01-11-2014 10:00 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by beaches (Post 518561)
thanks what is happening is I use multiple accounts with multiple dial ups. In the past i had received a lot of different ips . Now it seems that copper net zero Juno basic isp. Are all connected. when I dial up I get almost the same Ip from all just the last #'s change, Even dialing from 50 miles away. never happened before in the past. So I'm thinking they are using the same servers now. won't work for multiple accounts then..I even switched up the operating system this time around.

I would have to imagine they are consolidating infrastructure at this point. Dial-up is almost completely dead. Less than 3% of US users are still on dial-up last time I saw the numbers.

n8zzz 01-11-2014 07:25 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 518550)
Both types give IP - dial-up is horribly slower for webloading, etc. Otherwise, access is the same

Can't you dial up to different servers in the ISP for the dial up? And thus get a larger pool of IP addresses?

beaches 01-11-2014 08:52 PM

Re: Amazon question
 
i try different area codes in my state. same outcome. if i dial out of state then new ip. should i start an out of state.amazon stealth account then?

Kelly441 01-11-2014 10:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by barrycruan (Post 518525)
That's not the case if you are running multiple accounts. If it only changes by the last number or two that means you only have a very small amount of ip addresses that can be used as they are all on the same network. Normally around 120.

These addresses are going to keep getting recycled every time you log on and then 120 different ip's does not seem that unique. as soon as one account goes down for any reason they will link the rest. It really does matter.

Well I've ran six stealth accounts off of about a pool of 100 IPs for almost a year. One account went under review during that time, no linking

barrycruan 01-12-2014 05:43 AM

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Well You are lucky you had no problems then, had you lost an account I'm sure the domino affect would have happened. Also I thought you track your ip's and not use them on the same account. This is not the same thing as we are talking about.

Kelly441 01-12-2014 11:44 AM

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Yes, I track y IPs and don't cross contaminate them.

barrycruan 01-13-2014 04:30 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelly441 (Post 518843)
Yes, I track y IPs and don't cross contaminate them.

Yeah that what I think is the problem with op. If you keep separate ip's for separate accounts you should be fine.


But it looks like beaches is changing ip every time they log on believing it to be unique, but when your ip is on a network as in this case there are only so many ip addresses available. It looks like they are not tracking which ip is used on which account and they are as you say cross contaminating each of their accounts. They get away with it for a while then as soon as one account goes down the rest will follow.

rsot 01-13-2014 06:14 AM

Re: Amazon question
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by n8zzz (Post 518685)
Can't you dial up to different servers in the ISP for the dial up? And thus get a larger pool of IP addresses?

Definitely.


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