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| LittleLauien | 07-28-2014 11:47 PM | Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts I've been reading around a little bit, and I keep reading that when Amazon verifies the information they receive, that they only check to make sure the Zip Code is correct, and that the street and address can be whatever.
Is this true for registering a debit/credit card for purchasing?
Is this true for registering a bank account and routing number? |
| Seppl42 | 07-29-2014 02:39 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts where did you read that s*** ?
I gave different ZIP for verificaation (=possport/driverslicence as required in EU), registration adress and creditcard zip are all different.
never had a problem verifying ... |
| LittleLauien | 07-29-2014 02:47 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts I always thought the card would be declined if the address wasn't correct.
What all has to be true to get a card(for basic debit charges) accepted for buying on Amazon?
What all has to be true to get a bank account(for direct deposit) accepted for selling on Amazon? |
| MICKY H | 07-29-2014 04:58 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts First have you used the address/zip code before with amazon.
If so you will be linked. You need to buy a simple gift card from your local for $30 then you will have no problems.
All amazon need is the bank account number and routing number, they don't request an address. |
| LittleLauien | 07-29-2014 11:36 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by MICKY H
(Post 571770)
First have you used the address/zip code before with amazon. | No, this card has never been used on Amazon and the address has never been used. The card and account(same card with the same bank account) will actually be in my best friends name(he got the card and is going to change the address to his dad's house) and he is going to let me use it. It's a prepaid debit card, the type that actually made him give his personal information to receive.
His is letting me do this as long as I order things to his dad's house on occasion(generally holidays). So, buying with the debit card is something I would rather do, than reloading the account with gift cards.
I am asking because I want to know if he even needs to change the address on the card. |
| winstons | 07-29-2014 12:31 PM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts If your friend was asked to give his address when getting this card then probably yes he has to change address for it. |
| LittleLauien | 07-29-2014 01:49 PM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by winstons
(Post 571873)
If your friend was asked to give his address when getting this card then probably yes he has to change address for it. | He did. He lives two houses down from me and had the card mail to his house.
I heard that the zip code is the only part of the address that has to match when using a debit card for ordering on Amazon. I'm assuming this information in incorrect then...? |
| winstons | 07-29-2014 03:24 PM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts I have never tried that, but I don't think that's true, because it doesn't make sense.
Maybe only VCC without AVS, but it would work everywhere not only in amazon. Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleLauien
(Post 571890)
He did. He lives two houses down from me and had the card mail to his house.
I heard that the zip code is the only part of the address that has to match when using a debit card for ordering on Amazon. I'm assuming this information in incorrect then...? | |
| MICKY H | 07-29-2014 06:22 PM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts In the US with amazon its zip code only for verification as don't seem to use the CVV code. So are opening a buying account or selling account??? |
| LittleLauien | 07-29-2014 06:50 PM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by MICKY H
(Post 571943)
In the US with amazon its zip code only for verification as don't seem to use the CVV code. So are opening a buying account or selling account??? | This is for a both a buying and selling account. The debit card will be buying, and the bank account(same bank account that has the debit card) will be selling.
I'll give it shoot and see how it goes. I'm assuming that I'll have to change the address to get the seller account going, right? |
| GreenBean | 07-29-2014 07:29 PM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleLauien
(Post 571890)
He did. He lives two houses down from me and had the card mail to his house.
I heard that the zip code is the only part of the address that has to match when using a debit card for ordering on Amazon. I'm assuming this information in incorrect then...? | so are you saying a new amazon account has been made in the same street as a suspended account?
A link is now created.
:eek: |
| LittleLauien | 07-29-2014 08:51 PM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 571977)
so are you saying a new amazon account has been made in the same street as a suspended account? | The Amazon account hasn't been made yet. He has the debit card and was going to give it to me, but I told him to hold onto it in case he needs to change the address.
The thing is, his dad lives in the same zip code that we do. His dad live on a different street(actually a different neighborhood) though.
Does the address need to be changed on this card, or can I just put in his dad's address?
Because the zip code on this account, will be the same as the zip code on my original account, will the two accounts be linked(everything else will be different)? |
| jeffweico | 07-29-2014 09:11 PM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts I know that Paypal uses AVS verification and I would think that Amazon does as well. What this means is that they verify the DIGITS in the address and the ZIP code to obtain a match. For example:
Little Lauien 1234 Main St
Anytown USA 54321
Only the information in BLUE is actually verified this way. With many gift cards (or a VCC, available from sellers on the forum) you can make the address whatever you would like.
To fully verify an address, they would need to call your card issuer and that almost never happens. AVS verifies the ZIP code and the digits, so that is enough to pass most security measures.
I hope this helps! |
| jeffweico | 07-29-2014 09:13 PM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Oh...
And, NO a ZIP code match by itself will not link your accounts. If it did, then everyone in a ZIP code would be linked. On whatever address you plan on using, they would primarily be looking for any other banned seller accounts at that address. |
| LittleLauien | 07-29-2014 09:23 PM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts So technically, I could just find another address in the same zip code that has the same house numbers and street wouldn't matter?
And just to clarify, when they are depositing the two small amounts to verify the selling account, they only verify the bank account number and the routing number? |
| jeffweico | 07-29-2014 09:35 PM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts So technically, I could just find another address in the same zip code that has the same house numbers and street wouldn't matter? Correct. Unless the person at the address you choose has a seller account at Amazon. It is highly unlikely, but it COULD happen. And just to clarify, when they are depositing the two small amounts to verify the selling account, they only verify the bank account number and the routing number? Well, they are sending the 2 small deposits to the account identified by those numbers - the routing number identifies only the bank, the account number identifies the specific account. So, when you input the deposit amounts at Amazon, they know that the account number and routing number belong to the person who entered the information, but the bank is not giving out any information. |
| LittleLauien | 07-29-2014 09:56 PM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Thank you for answering my questions.
I have another account that I was trying to set up, a seller account. I entered all of the information, which wasn't my own information, I verified the phone number with a prepaid phone that I bought for $10, and then I got stuck on the scree that asked for a charge method, so I entered random information.
I got the message that says "Error - Your application to register as a merchant on amazon has been declined. Our review...", but I also got a message that says "Congradulations! Your account setup is complete".
Since then, I opened an Entropay account and put $5 onto it. Then I tried to use this information instead of the completely ⊗⊗⊗⊗ card information I had previously entered. The account was declined again.
Is this account worthless at this point, or is possible to actually get it going? |
| jeffweico | 07-29-2014 10:09 PM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleLauien
(Post 572012)
Thank you for answering my questions.
I have another account that I was trying to set up, a seller account. I entered all of the information, which wasn't my own information, I verified the phone number with a prepaid phone that I bought for $10, and then I got stuck on the scree that asked for a charge method, so I entered random information.
I got the message that says "Error - Your application to register as a merchant on amazon has been declined. Our review...", but I also got a message that says "Congradulations! Your account setup is complete".
Since then, I opened an Entropay account and put $5 onto it. Then I tried to use this information instead of the completely ⊗⊗⊗⊗ card information I had previously entered. The account was declined again.
Is this account worthless at this point, or is possible to actually get it going? | I would consider it dead. Amazon saw SOMETHING they did not like. |
| GreenBean | 07-29-2014 11:26 PM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleLauien
(Post 572005)
So technically, I could just find another address in the same zip code that has the same house numbers and street wouldn't matter?
And just to clarify, when they are depositing the two small amounts to verify the selling account, they only verify the bank account number and the routing number? | No no no.
If you are making another amazon account you must make sure to NOT repeat similarties of an old suspended account.
The account will get killed quickly.
:smash: |
| LittleLauien | 07-30-2014 12:34 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Alright, the address will be changed.
As far as IP address goes, is paying for a VPN service a good idea? |
| Seppl42 | 07-30-2014 12:35 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts I would like to add that Amazon can NOT verify credit card adresses in EUROPE. (Different story in US)
Thats because this Information is not an essential part in european credit cards and cannot be checked.
Instead they put 1 Euro on hold - if that woks your card gets verifyied. |
| GreenBean | 07-30-2014 01:01 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleLauien
(Post 572038)
Alright, the address will be changed.
As far as IP address goes, is paying for a VPN service a good idea? | No.
Consider VMware.
Have you lost other amazon accounts? |
| LittleLauien | 07-30-2014 01:34 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 572042)
Have you lost other amazon accounts? | Yes, but I don't believe I had accessed any of them on my laptop that I had created the account that just got rejected. I think that account got rejected because I had tried ⊗⊗⊗⊗ info for the debit card, but maybe not. The card I was trying to use to verify was Entropay, so maybe that has something to do with it.
Is Oracle Virtual Box the same as VMware? |
| LittleLauien | 07-30-2014 01:43 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts I thought VPN were for changing IP address... |
| GreenBean | 07-30-2014 03:23 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts It is not that simple.
The idea is to gave access that makes your account look as secure as possible.
VPNs are blacklisted. |
Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleLauien
(Post 572038)
Alright, the address will be changed.
As far as IP address goes, is paying for a VPN service a good idea? | @Little, look at dongle use or cellphone tethering...much better than VPN use. |
| LittleLauien | 07-30-2014 11:48 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Right now I have two accounts, one is my home account that I access on my personal cell phone and my home internet connection, both connections are dynamic IP. The other account is accessed on a cheap smart phone, also dynamic IP. Both of these account were set up accordingly and aren't have any problems. I'm doing everything by the book.
For my next account, the third, I would like to use my tablet(which has no internet unless I connect it to my home internet) but I would prefer to not have to by a dongle unless I could use the same dongle for multiple accounts.
I am a bit worried about the IP addresses of my two current accounts. My personal cell phone and home internet connection are both through the same service provider as the cheap cell phone. Isn't there a chance that I could lose a data connection or restart the phone, and when the connection is reestablished, the IP address will be the same as the IP address on the other account?
Does Amazon know which IP addresses are dynamic?
I've actually had one account for over ten years now, and I've used it one a bunch of different internet connections, most of those connections were dynamic. |
| LittleLauien | 07-31-2014 10:23 PM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Will it matter if there is an APT number in the address?
123 ABC ST APT 23
City, Town, 01277
123 1st ST
City, Town, 01277 |
| GreenBean | 08-01-2014 01:03 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleLauien
(Post 572256)
Does Amazon know which IP addresses are dynamic?
| Yes, amazon does know.
All the ecommerce platforms can ID how their users access their site.
:ranger: |
| MICKY H | 08-01-2014 01:45 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 572864)
Yes, amazon does know.
All the ecommerce platforms can ID how their users access their site.
:ranger: | GB, who can amazon identify if its dynamic. Don't quite understand how. |
| MICKY H | 08-01-2014 01:45 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleLauien
(Post 572834)
Will it matter if there is an APT number in the address?
123 ABC ST APT 23
City, Town, 01277
123 1st ST
City, Town, 01277 | This has an excellent chance of linking |
| GreenBean | 08-01-2014 01:55 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by MICKY H
(Post 572872)
GB, who can amazon identify if its dynamic. Don't quite understand how. | What do you mean, Micky? |
| MICKY H | 08-01-2014 02:17 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts How amazon know you are a dynamic IP>>>>> |
| GreenBean | 08-01-2014 02:36 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts All IPs have their type defined by their ISP.
It is possible to recognise types. |
Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleLauien
(Post 572834)
Will it matter if there is an APT number in the address?
123 ABC ST APT 23
City, Town, 01277
123 1st ST
City, Town, 01277 | Very easy to link this up - need more variation or new address |
| MICKY H | 08-01-2014 04:34 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 572889)
All IPs have their type defined by their ISP.
It is possible to recognise types. | OK GB, but I would think very very unlikely. 15 days to go to EPL day..... |
| GreenBean | 08-01-2014 04:38 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by MICKY H
(Post 572952)
OK GB, but I would think very very unlikely. 15 days to go to EPL day..... | Yay!!!
27 days to you know what.... |
| MICKY H | 08-01-2014 07:50 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts DON'T break a leg!!!!!!!!! |
| GreenBean | 08-01-2014 08:21 AM | Re: Only giving Amazon the correct Zip Code for accounts Quote:
Originally Posted by LittleLauien
(Post 572834)
Will it matter if there is an APT number in the address?
123 ABC ST APT 23
City, Town, 01277
123 1st ST
City, Town, 01277 | Have you checked yet HOW dangerous it is to make more accounts with address variations and same post codes?
Check your facts and consider changing plans.
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