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Ellis555 11-06-2014 01:25 PM

New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
We had a good account for about 1.5 years selling about 50+ products a day(All custom T-shirts that we design and make) and had good feedback and account was in good standings.

In August the account was taken down for "Possibly selling counterfeits"

Got the Amazon Ghost e-book and followed everything step by step and used new UPC codes for previous products and had an account for about 3 weeks and we got the exact same email for "possibly selling counterfeits"

We then opened another one and only put up 5 items with new UPC Codes(All Brand New Products) and that one lasted only about 5 days and got the exact same email. So we feel they are connecting our accounts somehow because we were selling these shirts for over 1.5 years with no problems.

Steps we did
1. Bought New Router
2. Wiped out computer
3. Changed IP Address
4. Changed computer MAC Address
5. Got prepaid Credit Card
6. Used new person's Social Security number
7. Used new address
8. Multiple Computers(including computers we used in the past) were connecting thru this new router but never going onto Amazon.
9. Created new Gmail account and blocked images being able to be opened.
10. Created a new Photobucket account to host our images.

We really want to get back up and running ASAP because with the holidays coming up we are missing out on a ton of money. Any suggestions would be much appreciated and what we plan on doing with a new account.

1. Buying new router
2. Wiping out computer
3. Using computer in a new location and using that router ONLY for Amazon and never logging into it with a different computer.
4. Changing IP address
5. Selling new products(Custom products we create) but have never sold on Amazon but sell on ebay and etsy.


Is it also stupid to list 30-50 products on day 1 and to keep adding a bunch more weekly? I know this is a pretty long post but ANY HELP would be fantastic and greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance

Ellis555 11-06-2014 01:49 PM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
We are also going to be creating a brand new Stamps.com account


We are making our address different but still in the same general area. Can that be a problem?

imboxsy 11-06-2014 02:21 PM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
Listing too fast is a myth imo. I listed 500+ items the first day

1. Are you changing around the wording in your titles/descriptions?
2. Did the account go into review? Did you receive your first transfer?
3. Have you ran tests on your MAC and IP to ensure they are indeed changed/spoofed?

When did the first stealth go down? right before the first transfer? Analyze the timing of the email and your activity.

Ellis555 11-06-2014 02:30 PM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
1. We are trying to change the titles around but when we are selling T-shirts the titles are going to be somewhat similar. As for the description they are pretty different.
2. We never even linked a bank account and the account did not go into review. Our 1st stealth account that lasted for 3 weeks did but our newest one did not.
3. How exactly would we run tests to find out if our MAC and IP are either changed or spoofed? Would you recommend a certain program to do this with? Do we have to change our computers MAC address and the router MAC address?

sentra2skyliner33 11-06-2014 03:02 PM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
See if your ip address has changed, forum members recommend using ipburger.com to see if the ip address has changed.


You basically changed the MAC address on your router. Log in to your router and change the last 2 numbers, then reset you modem and restart your router again, after doing that check ipburger.com to see if your ip address changed.

imboxsy 11-06-2014 03:30 PM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SheddShirts (Post 605665)
1. We are trying to change the titles around but when we are selling T-shirts the titles are going to be somewhat similar. As for the description they are pretty different.
2. We never even linked a bank account and the account did not go into review. Our 1st stealth account that lasted for 3 weeks did but our newest one did not.
3. How exactly would we run tests to find out if our MAC and IP are either changed or spoofed? Would you recommend a certain program to do this with? Do we have to change our computers MAC address and the router MAC address?

Use Ipburger

How about the SKU system? For example, i tried to change as much as possible in my upload excels including the SKU system i used.

3 weeks is a bizarre time to get linked.

Lets analyze your activity. What were you doing exactly prior to the 3 week email? Think about account management, computer usage, email usage etc

imboxsy 11-06-2014 03:37 PM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
Shedd,

Does the person that you used their social and name have a personal buying account?

Ellis555 11-06-2014 04:03 PM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
Yes they do have a buyers account

Ellis555 11-06-2014 04:07 PM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
Also if they were linking the accounts from our original one would we get a message that says our accounts are linked or could they just send the same email about selling possible copyright material

imboxsy 11-06-2014 04:20 PM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SheddShirts (Post 605683)
Yes they do have a buyers account

That might be your problem. That persons name (that is now the stealth) has logged in a banned IP before (your old account)

holguin666 11-07-2014 01:03 PM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SheddShirts (Post 605640)
We had a good account for about 1.5 years selling about 50+ products a day(All custom T-shirts that we design and make) and had good feedback and account was in good standings.

In August the account was taken down for "Possibly selling counterfeits"

Got the Amazon Ghost e-book and followed everything step by step and used new UPC codes for previous products and had an account for about 3 weeks and we got the exact same email for "possibly selling counterfeits"

We then opened another one and only put up 5 items with new UPC Codes(All Brand New Products) and that one lasted only about 5 days and got the exact same email. So we feel they are connecting our accounts somehow because we were selling these shirts for over 1.5 years with no problems.

Steps we did
1. Bought New Router
2. Wiped out computer
3. Changed IP Address
4. Changed computer MAC Address
5. Got prepaid Credit Card
6. Used new person's Social Security number
7. Used new address
8. Multiple Computers(including computers we used in the past) were connecting thru this new router but never going onto Amazon.
9. Created new Gmail account and blocked images being able to be opened.
10. Created a new Photobucket account to host our images.

We really want to get back up and running ASAP because with the holidays coming up we are missing out on a ton of money. Any suggestions would be much appreciated and what we plan on doing with a new account.

1. Buying new router
2. Wiping out computer
3. Using computer in a new location and using that router ONLY for Amazon and never logging into it with a different computer.
4. Changing IP address
5. Selling new products(Custom products we create) but have never sold on Amazon but sell on ebay and etsy.


Is it also stupid to list 30-50 products on day 1 and to keep adding a bunch more weekly? I know this is a pretty long post but ANY HELP would be fantastic and greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance

Well your plan looks good! yes, go slow with putting up products and sell other items, but put them at a high price so nobody buys it, that will help too...I sold creams, which needed prescription, I was finally banned after 2 years, I had many accts, but to get to the point I had 150 items on sale, but what was really giving me profit were 4 products, the rest was at high price and just to not get linked from my previous accts it worked for me... the best...

eBay King 11-08-2014 05:34 AM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SheddShirts (Post 605640)
We had a good account for about 1.5 years selling about 50+ products a day(All custom T-shirts that we design and make) and had good feedback and account was in good standings.

In August the account was taken down for "Possibly selling counterfeits"

Got the Amazon Ghost e-book and followed everything step by step and used new UPC codes for previous products and had an account for about 3 weeks and we got the exact same email for "possibly selling counterfeits"

We then opened another one and only put up 5 items with new UPC Codes(All Brand New Products) and that one lasted only about 5 days and got the exact same email. So we feel they are connecting our accounts somehow because we were selling these shirts for over 1.5 years with no problems.

Steps we did
1. Bought New Router
2. Wiped out computer
3. Changed IP Address
4. Changed computer MAC Address
5. Got prepaid Credit Card
6. Used new person's Social Security number
7. Used new address
8. Multiple Computers(including computers we used in the past) were connecting thru this new router but never going onto Amazon.
9. Created new Gmail account and blocked images being able to be opened.
10. Created a new Photobucket account to host our images.

We really want to get back up and running ASAP because with the holidays coming up we are missing out on a ton of money. Any suggestions would be much appreciated and what we plan on doing with a new account.

1. Buying new router
2. Wiping out computer
3. Using computer in a new location and using that router ONLY for Amazon and never logging into it with a different computer.
4. Changing IP address
5. Selling new products(Custom products we create) but have never sold on Amazon but sell on ebay and etsy.


Is it also stupid to list 30-50 products on day 1 and to keep adding a bunch more weekly? I know this is a pretty long post but ANY HELP would be fantastic and greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance



Sounds really bad. This vague message about the counterfeit thing is becoming more and more common and looks at this stage impossible to beat.

It sounds like a sc*mbag competitor doing this. It might not be a problem with your methods or your products, as you said you had been doing this for a long period of time before.

Does anyone else sell the same products as yours?

rsot 11-08-2014 06:29 AM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
New person's Social Security Number...what's that about?

GreenBean 11-08-2014 06:38 AM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SheddShirts (Post 605649)
We are also going to be creating a brand new Stamps.com account


We are making our address different but still in the same general area. Can that be a problem?

Similarties are a big issues with amazon. General area is not recommended.


same product different UPC is not good.

Why did you go whole hog and supply an SSN?

Was your new lot of IPs very different from those on other accounts?

Kelly441 11-09-2014 11:45 AM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 606213)
Similarties are a big issues with amazon. General area is not recommended.


same product different UPC is not good.

Why did you go whole hog and supply an SSN?

Was your new lot of IPs very different from those on other accounts?

Do you recommend using an entire different state if you are selling same product on same listing as a suspended account or does it just need to be 100 miles away? Do you still recommend the 10 to 1 ratio for listing same product

Ellis555 11-09-2014 12:21 PM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
1. What is the 10 to 1 ratio that you are speaking of

2. Do you recommend selling as a professional or as personal. We have used professional in the past and was wondering if that is possibly the reason why we are getting flagged and closed.

Thanks

JamesNorth101 11-09-2014 01:08 PM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SheddShirts (Post 606568)
1. What is the 10 to 1 ratio that you are speaking of

Old items to new items.

mauricio1966 11-11-2014 12:16 PM

Re: New Stealth Accounts Keep Getting Closed
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SheddShirts (Post 605640)
We had a good account for about 1.5 years selling about 50+ products a day(All custom T-shirts that we design and make) and had good feedback and account was in good standings.

In August the account was taken down for "Possibly selling counterfeits"

Got the Amazon Ghost e-book and followed everything step by step and used new UPC codes for previous products and had an account for about 3 weeks and we got the exact same email for "possibly selling counterfeits"

We then opened another one and only put up 5 items with new UPC Codes(All Brand New Products) and that one lasted only about 5 days and got the exact same email. So we feel they are connecting our accounts somehow because we were selling these shirts for over 1.5 years with no problems.

Steps we did
1. Bought New Router
2. Wiped out computer
3. Changed IP Address
4. Changed computer MAC Address
5. Got prepaid Credit Card
6. Used new person's Social Security number
7. Used new address
8. Multiple Computers(including computers we used in the past) were connecting thru this new router but never going onto Amazon.
9. Created new Gmail account and blocked images being able to be opened.
10. Created a new Photobucket account to host our images.

We really want to get back up and running ASAP because with the holidays coming up we are missing out on a ton of money. Any suggestions would be much appreciated and what we plan on doing with a new account.

1. Buying new router
2. Wiping out computer
3. Using computer in a new location and using that router ONLY for Amazon and never logging into it with a different computer.
4. Changing IP address
5. Selling new products(Custom products we create) but have never sold on Amazon but sell on ebay and etsy.


Is it also stupid to list 30-50 products on day 1 and to keep adding a bunch more weekly? I know this is a pretty long post but ANY HELP would be fantastic and greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance


Hi,

I also sold t-shirts and had my account suspended this week for the same reason. Do you know if Amazon check UPC codes? You got to make some appeal?


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